Group LLC (Livin Low Carb) - August 2010

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  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    LOL @ Marie. If you're talking about the debate on sweeteners, I'm right there with ya! I'm all about learning...but to each her own! I think we should all use whatever we prefer. :smile:

    It's not a debate.............

    I am merely sharing what I have learned over the last 7 years of low carbing. Sheesh, if everything I comment on says I am debating, then I'll just keep my mouth shut and my fingers off the keyboard. Yes, I get defensive about people saying it is debating when its not..............

    I mean come on, this is supposed to be the place where we are sharing and learning from one another.

    I just re-read the whole thread and I don't see a debate. Just information sharing.

    Yes, it is a to each his / her own. For me, I am cutting out the chemicals as much as possible because I have adverse effects from them.

    Who knows Saverys_gal, that Splenda could be a major trigger for your migraines. I know it is for me.

    LOL...lioness...I think Marie and I mean that everyone has got an opinion on this matter! Remember, words can be misconstrued on the net! :laugh:

    As far as the Splenda-this is why I am trying to slowly go over to the Truvia to see if it's one of my migraine triggers. On the other hand, I've been using Splenda since it hit the market and have only started to get migraines within the past 2 years...so it's kind of a crap shoot if you know what I mean. I've also been told to try going gluten free to see if that triggers them...so many darn things could cause these migraines!

    But there is only peace in here Cora!! No one is being offensive!!! :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    LOL @ Marie. If you're talking about the debate on sweeteners, I'm right there with ya! I'm all about learning...but to each her own! I think we should all use whatever we prefer. :smile:

    It's not a debate.............

    I am merely sharing what I have learned over the last 7 years of low carbing. Sheesh, if everything I comment on says I am debating, then I'll just keep my mouth shut and my fingers off the keyboard. Yes, I get defensive about people saying it is debating when its not..............

    I mean come on, this is supposed to be the place where we are sharing and learning from one another.

    I just re-read the whole thread and I don't see a debate. Just information sharing.

    Yes, it is a to each his / her own. For me, I am cutting out the chemicals as much as possible because I have adverse effects from them.

    Who knows Saverys_gal, that Splenda could be a major trigger for your migraines. I know it is for me.

    LOL...lioness...I think Marie and I mean that everyone has got an opinion on this matter! Remember, words can be misconstrued on the net! :laugh:

    As far as the Splenda-this is why I am trying to slowly go over to the Truvia to see if it's one of my migraine triggers. On the other hand, I've been using Splenda since it hit the market and have only started to get migraines within the past 2 years...so it's kind of a crap shoot if you know what I mean. I've also been told to try going gluten free to see if that triggers them...so many darn things could cause these migraines!

    But there is only peace in here Cora!! No one is being offensive!!! :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:

    For a lot of people I think the prolonged use causes symptoms to come on over time for some people...............

    That is why I suggested you using Sweet Leaf Stevia and not Purvia (Pepsi owned) or Truvia (coca- Cola owned).........Purvia and Truvia are chemicalized versions of Stevia, just like Splenda is a chemicalized version of real sugar...........

    Look at who owns Purvia and Truvia, 2 chemical kings that make soda. That is all I am saying.

    Why not just use the REAL thing, not the chemical version made from genetically modified plants.

    All I have been trying to do is to bring to the table my 7 years of life learning experience from eating the low carb lifestyle. That is all.

    Some of us prefer to eat naturally and chemical free, not artificial stuff...........
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    it is basically pasta that is coated in a non-digestible fiber called inulin. So, as long as the pasta is not over cooked to break down the inulin, then your body will not digest the pasta carbs..............

    I have been able to use it in small amounts with stir fry veggies mixed in with no blood sugar issues and no carb coma either afterwards..............

    Thank you Cora!! :flowerforyou: I have not been able to find an answer for this anywhere! I've been wanting to try it since I've gone LC especially since I can buy in in the grocery store unlike the Atkins pasta.

    Now my question to anyone that has tried it: does it taste like regular pasta?? My hubby is SOOOOO picky. I would love to be able to cook this for him one night and make a small bit for myself and not have him not know what he's eating! Right now he sits down and eats about 2 to 2.5 servings of regular pasta in one meal...:noway:

    yes, it tastes just like regular pasta. he will never know the difference.
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    I'd have to go back a couple of pages but I know I asked what the difference is between Stevia and Truvia.

    So then, is the Sweet Leaf Stevia the same as Stevia? I've never seen the Sweet Leaf in stores, but I'm sure I've seen plain old Stevia before.

    I do see where you're coming from-and I always enjoy your wealth of knowledge! Just remember that words get misconstrued! :smile:
  • XFitMojoMom
    XFitMojoMom Posts: 3,255 Member
    Well, like someone said - to each their own. I respect Cora's opinion and will often ask her about stuff because she's been through it. Nothing like personal experience.... not discounting anyone else's opinion either.
    As for the splenda debate - I cannot STAND it - makes me sick, crampy, gives me diarrhea and I hate HATE the taste. My IL's only use it and I always keep some in the house for them when they visit. When I go to the US I will always choose Equal. In Canada I've tried stevia (drops from health store), xylitol (from health store) and haven't found something I like, so I use twin (aspartame). FWIW - Starbucks Canada (at least here in Quebec) has removed Splenda as they believe it causes illness.
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    I'd have to go back a couple of pages but I know I asked what the difference is between Stevia and Truvia.

    So then, is the Sweet Leaf Stevia the same as Stevia? I've never seen the Sweet Leaf in stores, but I'm sure I've seen plain old Stevia before.

    I do see where you're coming from-and I always enjoy your wealth of knowledge! Just remember that words get misconstrued! :smile:

    Stevia is just either the ground up plant or it is extracted from the plant leaves..............

    Truvia is made from processing genetically modified plants................That right there makes it something I don't want to put in my mouth.

    The more I am learning about what the government is allowing them to do to our food supply, the more I am sticking with Farmers Market, CSA and local farms for food for my family.
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    Well, like someone said - to each their own. I respect Cora's opinion and will often ask her about stuff because she's been through it. Nothing like personal experience.... not discounting anyone else's opinion either.
    As for the splenda debate - I cannot STAND it - makes me sick, crampy, gives me diarrhea and I hate HATE the taste. My IL's only use it and I always keep some in the house for them when they visit. When I go to the US I will always choose Equal. In Canada I've tried stevia (drops from health store), xylitol (from health store) and haven't found something I like, so I use twin (aspartame). FWIW - Starbucks Canada (at least here in Quebec) has removed Splenda as they believe it causes illness.

    See, I love my Splenda-hate Equal and Sweet 'n Low. My transition over to the natural sweetener has been slow because I'm still not as keen on the taste but I'm willing to go for it just because I want to get away from artificial and I would love to see if it is a cause of my migraines...although who knows how long it will take to get it all out of my system??
    They don't use Splenda in Canadian Starbucks? That's very interesting!!

    @mojogurl-I responded to you about my TOM a page or so back :smile:
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    WTF? If Truvia is made from artificial Stevia...that makes no sense? Why not just use real Stevia?? Why go through and use a genetically modified plant? That seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth...:indifferent:
  • CALIECAT
    CALIECAT Posts: 12,530 Member
    Why not used the real stuff SUGAR in moderation. I read an article once that sugar is less danger to our system as a baked potatoe
    What 16 calories per t.? I know a couple od ladies that used sugar and they lost weight. In fact one girl has kept her 50lbs off for 6 years B ut she eats in moderation.
    bakes cakes all the time for her grandkids. I don't knowif I could used real sugar for i have been brain washed all of my life. about sugar.
    So What is your take on this lowcarbers? no debate just your own personel opinon
  • I did not know that about Stevia and Truvia. I have bought ground up stevia leaves before. They are green, and leave a gritty feeling. I used it in coffee before and was not impressed. Right now I am using EZ-Sweetz that I got from Netrition. 0 cal and 0 carbs. I use 1 drop in my coffee and tea. I like Splenda, but will only use it in baking, like the MIM's. I am not sure about Agave nector. It is usually sold next to the honey. I think its supposed to be like a replacement for honey...not sure though. I have never tried it but would like to see how it is. Does anyone know the carb count on Agave Nector?

    Colette





    I'd have to go back a couple of pages but I know I asked what the difference is between Stevia and Truvia.

    So then, is the Sweet Leaf Stevia the same as Stevia? I've never seen the Sweet Leaf in stores, but I'm sure I've seen plain old Stevia before.

    I do see where you're coming from-and I always enjoy your wealth of knowledge! Just remember that words get misconstrued! :smile:

    Stevia is just either the ground up plant or it is extracted from the plant leaves..............

    Truvia is made from processing genetically modified plants................That right there makes it something I don't want to put in my mouth.

    The more I am learning about what the government is allowing them to do to our food supply, the more I am sticking with Farmers Market, CSA and local farms for food for my family.
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    I've never used any of the Agave either...I'm pretty much new to the whole sweetener deal. ccduch-if you go on to netrition.com and pull up the Agave, you should be able to find the nutritional info. :smile:
  • pickledlilly
    pickledlilly Posts: 98 Member
    Sweeteners are as daft to me as soya made to look like bacon or sausage. Sugar is a drug and sweeteners came from an experiment in a laboritory. Personally, I don't want to put acids in my body and refined sugars are bleached and bleached.

  • Stevia is just either the ground up plant or it is extracted from the plant leaves..............

    Truvia is made from processing genetically modified plants................That right there makes it something I don't want to put in my mouth.

    The more I am learning about what the government is allowing them to do to our food supply, the more I am sticking with Farmers Market, CSA and local farms for food for my family.

    I don't like using genetically altered things either. The government allows all kinds of things in our food supplies. Fresh is best as long as its home grown and not grown for the markets, ie corporate stores. I just wish in Michigan I could grow all year round. The government has to have complete control over everything. I read that they are trying to make it illegal for us to grown our own food, that they can tax us on it. Don't ask me where I read it, because I don't remember...lol...I think it was off one of my daily emails I get that report on our food supply or such. Please don't get me started on how corrupt our government really is...

    Colette
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    I think the only thing I'll say to this is that I think we all know that our government is corrupt no matter what topic you want to talk about. And that's all I have to say on that because politics can truly turn into a "debate" and I don't want to step on anyone's toes! :flowerforyou:

    But on another thought - Colette - where would be a good state to live to grow a garden year round??
  • XFitMojoMom
    XFitMojoMom Posts: 3,255 Member
    I don't know why I don't use regular sugar - I think it goes back to when I'd drink cola - regular would make me sick, headachy, sweats - so I tried diet and didn't have the effect - so... yeah. There you have it. It just stuck.

    Nicole - Interesting about your menses. I was pretty much the same as you - IN HS, the pill made me crazy, I was all over the map - it was supposed to regulate but I was having breakthrough bleeding and all kinds of issues. The Doc said I wasn't taking it at the same time each day, so okay, maybe not to the hour to the minute, but "at night" - should still be the same. Anyway, tried switching to bedtime because that is a regularly scheduled event. made no difference. After my second daughter was born, thought about Mirena, but opted for the ring and fell into PPD, hot flashes - thought I was peri-meno test confirmed normal range, but at the higher level. Stopped using the ring completely told my husband to get fixed (still pending :grumble: )
    and well, went through more tests and was diagnosed with IR. SInce then, changing diet and my Rx, everything is back on track.
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    Regular sugar is too sweet? Anytime I eat stuff with a fairly good amount of real sugar I just cringe...it sends my taste buds into overdrive. It doesn't dissolve like the fake stuff or anything else either. Yea, just don't care for it really.

    mojogurl- yeah, my GYN tried to give me the same thing about not taking it at the same time and I corrected her quick on that-I'm a creature of habit and I take them at the same time!! I'm definitely nowhere near peri-meno!! Had my hubby fixed earlier this year :drinker: :drinker: :drinker: but then again we don't want kiddies so he was waiting to get it done! So I've been drug free for my TOM since March and it's been one heck of a ride but a lot of my emotional symptoms have cleared up. Excuse my ignorance though...but what is IR??
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    WTF? If Truvia is made from artificial Stevia...that makes no sense? Why not just use real Stevia?? Why go through and use a genetically modified plant? That seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth...:indifferent:

    Mass production girl, mass production...........
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    WTF? If Truvia is made from artificial Stevia...that makes no sense? Why not just use real Stevia?? Why go through and use a genetically modified plant? That seems like it would be more trouble than it's worth...:indifferent:

    Mass production girl, mass production...........

    Wow. Just wow. That's about one of the stupidest things I've ever heard! But then again, there's a lot of stupidity in our world. It would make more sense to me to use what you have growing naturally...but hey, what do any of us know, right?
  • CALIECAT
    CALIECAT Posts: 12,530 Member
    Seems that we sll react fifference and just have to see what work best for us.
    I know no more than I did. I guess God is the only one to know whats best for us. Eat as naturally as you can. He gave us fruits and veggies, milk Lets enjoy them. If anyone has the perfect diet let us know. I know it is a fact low carbs do lower your blood sugar I can see that on my blood monitor. my scales has not told me anything yet? But intend to keep a good record on my 30 days of Sept, challenge and see what it tells me.
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    Why not used the real stuff SUGAR in moderation. I read an article once that sugar is less danger to our system as a baked potatoe
    What 16 calories per t.? I know a couple od ladies that used sugar and they lost weight. In fact one girl has kept her 50lbs off for 6 years B ut she eats in moderation.
    bakes cakes all the time for her grandkids. I don't knowif I could used real sugar for i have been brain washed all of my life. about sugar.
    So What is your take on this lowcarbers? no debate just your own personel opinon

    I believe using RAW sugar when trying to maintain your weight is the best way to go.................If it normal old white sugar, then NO, it doesn't belong in our eating plans whether we are trying to maintain, lose or even gain weight.............

    My husband gave up Splenda and started using Sugar in the Raw..............He said it gives a pleasant sweetness without being syrupy...............

    This is only my opinion for how my husband and I live.
  • weaklink109
    weaklink109 Posts: 2,831 Member
    Good morning, (or what is left of it)--

    Here is my two cents on whether or not to start a new thread for September:

    Since the current thread has "August" in the title, I think it would make sense to start a new thread for September. If you don't want to start a new thread each month, the title shouldn't have a month in it. If you are going to let it roll automatically at 500 posts, it would be less confusing to not put a "part 2" or any other designation, because that will be added automatically into the title when the thread rolls.
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    Alright, so to get the ball rolling again on LLC...

    What's everyone's favorite LC snack? :smile:

    1. almonds!!
    2. cucumbers
    3. greek yogurt (when I'm wanting more carbs & sugar)
    4. pistachios
    5. macadamias
  • CALIECAT
    CALIECAT Posts: 12,530 Member
    Alright, so to get the ball rolling again on LLC...

    What's everyone's favorite LC snack? :smile:

    1. almonds!!
    2. cucumbers
    3. greek yogurt (when I'm wanting more carbs & sugar)
    4. pistachios
    5. macadamias
    8. nuts of any kind
    9. crystal lite lemomaid. or ant of their drinks.
    10 cheese and nuts
    11 Ham and cheese roll.
    12. 2 glasses of water
    .
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    Sounds good Marie! I'm glad snack time is right around the corner!
  • Resalyn
    Resalyn Posts: 528 Member
    13. Pepperoni and Sargento sharp cheddar slice - YUMMMM!
    14. SF Jello and whipped cream
  • Resalyn
    Resalyn Posts: 528 Member
    Good morning, (or what is left of it)--

    Here is my two cents on whether or not to start a new thread for September:

    Since the current thread has "August" in the title, I think it would make sense to start a new thread for September. If you don't want to start a new thread each month, the title shouldn't have a month in it. If you are going to let it roll automatically at 500 posts, it would be less confusing to not put a "part 2" or any other designation, because that will be added automatically into the title when the thread rolls.

    Hey, Weaklink - I agree with you on starting the new thread, only because I'm OCD about being organized, and seeing "August" in the title in September will give me a little funny twinge - but that's just ME! I can live with whatever the group decides to do, honestly.....
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    Ooooooo...the pepperoni and cheese sounds SO tasty!

    And I totally admit to doing the SF jello with whipped cream! :wink:

    Well I say do whatever floats your boat resalyn! It doesn't both me one way or another if we start another thread. You started the group and no one here seems to have any strong feelings, so why not start a new one if you really want to? :smile:
  • July24Lioness
    July24Lioness Posts: 2,399 Member
    Good Luck to everyone going forward. Everyone will complete their journey in their own time and I wish nothing but the best to each and every one of you.

    So there are no more talks of debates or any controversy, I will no longer be posting on any threads.

    I am sorry that I don't share the same thoughts as everyone else to be as healthy as I can be and in order to do that one must live as natural and chemical free as possible.

    It was never my intention to offend anyone and if I have, I apologize. I was only trying to do my part to help people with more healthy and natural alternatives.

    There is no disdain for what anyone else does. As someone that is considering going to school for Naturopathic medicine, I only have the best intentions at heart. My doctor uses Tough Love with me because to be at your best health it takes a lot more than just lowering your carb counts to be healthy. Also, losing weight does not equal good health filling your body with chemicals.............

    All I was trying to do was spread the word of good health through a natural and low carb lifestyle.

    I can't in good conscience give advice through my life experiences without being me.

    With that said, I suppose to keep controversary at bay I will no longer post on any of the threads.
  • profjan6
    profjan6 Posts: 333
    Some favorite snacks are:
    1. macadamia nuts
    2. cheese
    3. hard boiled eggs
    4. cantaloupe

    and i can use some new ideas! you have all been so helpful. thanks!
  • saverys_gal
    saverys_gal Posts: 808 Member
    Good Luck to everyone going forward. Everyone will complete their journey in their own time and I wish nothing but the best to each and every one of you.

    So there are no more talks of debates or any controversy, I will no longer be posting on any threads.

    I am sorry that I don't share the same thoughts as everyone else to be as healthy as I can be and in order to do that one must live as natural and chemical free as possible.

    It was never my intention to offend anyone and if I have, I apologize. I was only trying to do my part to help people with more healthy and natural alternatives.

    There is no disdain for what anyone else does. As someone that is considering going to school for Naturopathic medicine, I only have the best intentions at heart. My doctor uses Tough Love with me because to be at your best health it takes a lot more than just lowering your carb counts to be healthy. Also, losing weight does not equal good health filling your body with chemicals.............

    All I was trying to do was spread the word of good health through a natural and low carb lifestyle.

    I can't in good conscience give advice through my life experiences without being me.

    With that said, I suppose to keep controversary at bay I will no longer post on any of the threads.

    @ Cora...

    I really hope you'll reconsider. I think everything from this morning was blown a little bit more out of proportion that it really was to begin with. Even if what was being discussed could be considered a true "debate" it was done in a healthy manner with everyone respecting everyone elses opinions.
    Please don't let this stop you from contributing to us and to others-I know you've been told multiple times what a wealth of knowledge you have and how much we all appreciate it!

    So I'll ask you again to kindly reconsider and stay with us here :flowerforyou:
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