Harming children to make yourself feel good?
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Child abusers!
I do!!!Does anyone else want to go find the OP's kids and give them entire packages of cookies?
You bring cookies, I'll bring chocolate milk and pixie sticks.0 -
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I just want to roll this thread... i want this title off my topics.
It's just a creepy title and a thread full of odd.
Someone... anyone... please help roll this!
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A child just down the road got murdered the other night by her creepy neighbor. I wish she was only offered a cookie!0
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Clearly someone has never seen this episode of Sesame Street
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About the dog food vs people food thing. Read the label of a good brand of dog food. It should have REAL food listed. Real meat, real veggies, real fruits. Read a label of most brands you find in the grocery store or big box store. It starts will filler. I'd rather feed my dog the best brand of dog food or real people food, rather than feed them the card board filler junk they sell in regular stores.0
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I partially agree with the OP. Of course it is ok to give kids a cookie or 2 or even 3 around the holiday, nobody questioning that.
But all due respect many grandparents and aunts, especially if they are childless, have a tendency to constantly feeding treats to they grand kids , nephews, nieces.
Our family live overseas and we only see them once a year or once every two years. Because of the distance , family visits are long like at least few weeks, sometimes a couple of months long.
Last time my mom visited was last Christmas , when my second child was born. She come to help me out at and after the birth and I am eternally grateful for that. She stayed with us for almost 3 months and she baked almost daily and bought chocolate and candy daily for my son who was 4 yrs old at the time. First it was holidays, and I understand her excitement, but it was extreme. First I kept asking her nicely to keep it down, then firmly, than we got into a big argument. She cried, but agreed. As I found out later she didn't actually follow up, but kept doing it behind my back. She and my son often went to walk the dog, and they visited the corner store and she bought him candy again and again and again on daily basis. (we are not taking about a piece of $0.05 gummy bear, but a whole king size candy bars daily)
My son was constantly sugar high and he behaved so crazy. He started to wet the bed again and showed all kinds of behavior regression. He had such temper tantrums that we never witnessed before even when he was a toddler. He was super jealous and aggressive toward the baby. Some form of jealousy is normal, so we just thought he was reacting a bit harsher then average.
Well , when grandma left in March, all the sudden my son craziness went away . He was not jealous or aggressive toward the baby anymore . He was not throwing fist anymore, he was eating better, he was back to his nice gentle himself again.
Sometimes I wonder if my sister's 5 yrs old behavior problems (borderline ADHD) originate in the fact that my mom has a daily contact with that child. ( she walks him home from daycare) . I wouldn't be surprised if that half hr she spends with that child daily involves feeding the kid candy on daily basis. She denies it, and I am the bad guy when I warn my sister about this possibility.0 -
I partially agree with the OP. Of course it is ok to give kids a cookie or 2 or even 3 around the holiday, nobody questioning that.
But all due respect many grandparents and aunts, especially if they are childless, have a tendency to constantly feeding treats to they grand kids , nephews, nieces.
Our family live overseas and we only see them once a year or once every two years. Because of the distance , family visits are long like at least few weeks, sometimes a couple of months long.
Last time my mom visited was last Christmas , when my second child was born. She come to help me out at and after the birth and I am eternally grateful for that. She stayed with us for almost 3 months and she baked almost daily and bought chocolate and candy daily for my son who was 4 yrs old at the time. First it was holidays, and I understand her excitement, but it was extreme. First I kept asking her nicely to keep it down, then firmly, than we got into a big argument. She cried, but agreed. As I found out later she didn't actually follow up, but kept doing it behind my back. She and my son often went to walk the dog, and they visited the corner store and she bought him candy again and again and again on daily basis. (we are not taking about a piece of $0.05 gummy bear, but a whole king size candy bars daily)
My son was constantly sugar high and he behaved so crazy. He started to wet the bed again and showed all kinds of behavior regression. He had such temper tantrums that we never witnessed before even when he was a toddler. He was super jealous and aggressive toward the baby. Some form of jealousy is normal, so we just thought he was reacting a bit harsher then average.
Well , when grandma left in March, all the sudden my son craziness went away . He was not jealous or aggressive toward the baby anymore . He was not throwing fist anymore, he was eating better, he was back to his nice gentle himself again.
Sometimes I wonder if my sister's 5 yrs old behavior problems (borderline ADHD) originate in the fact that my mom has a daily contact with that child. ( she walks him home from daycare) . I wouldn't be surprised if that half hr she spends with that child daily involves feeding the kid candy on daily basis. She denies it, and I am the bad guy when I warn my sister about this possibility.
The OP isn't upset that they are getting sugar that makes them hyper or act out. She's mad that the extra cookies supposedly cause her 5-year-old to lose wrestling matches.0 -
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I partially agree with the OP. Of course it is ok to give kids a cookie or 2 or even 3 around the holiday, nobody questioning that.
But all due respect many grandparents and aunts, especially if they are childless, have a tendency to constantly feeding treats to they grand kids , nephews, nieces.
Our family live overseas and we only see them once a year or once every two years. Because of the distance , family visits are long like at least few weeks, sometimes a couple of months long.
Last time my mom visited was last Christmas , when my second child was born. She come to help me out at and after the birth and I am eternally grateful for that. She stayed with us for almost 3 months and she baked almost daily and bought chocolate and candy daily for my son who was 4 yrs old at the time. First it was holidays, and I understand her excitement, but it was extreme. First I kept asking her nicely to keep it down, then firmly, than we got into a big argument. She cried, but agreed. As I found out later she didn't actually follow up, but kept doing it behind my back. She and my son often went to walk the dog, and they visited the corner store and she bought him candy again and again and again on daily basis. (we are not taking about a piece of $0.05 gummy bear, but a whole king size candy bars daily)
My son was constantly sugar high and he behaved so crazy. He started to wet the bed again and showed all kinds of behavior regression. He had such temper tantrums that we never witnessed before even when he was a toddler. He was super jealous and aggressive toward the baby. Some form of jealousy is normal, so we just thought he was reacting a bit harsher then average.
Well , when grandma left in March, all the sudden my son craziness went away . He was not jealous or aggressive toward the baby anymore . He was not throwing fist anymore, he was eating better, he was back to his nice gentle himself again.
Sometimes I wonder if my sister's 5 yrs old behavior problems (borderline ADHD) originate in the fact that my mom has a daily contact with that child. ( she walks him home from daycare) . I wouldn't be surprised if that half hr she spends with that child daily involves feeding the kid candy on daily basis. She denies it, and I am the bad guy when I warn my sister about this possibility.
Sugar highs are fiction. Sugar is a carbohydrate, which is calming. A metadata analysis showed no correlation between sugar and hyperactive behavior.0 -
I partially agree with the OP. Of course it is ok to give kids a cookie or 2 or even 3 around the holiday, nobody questioning that.
But all due respect many grandparents and aunts, especially if they are childless, have a tendency to constantly feeding treats to they grand kids , nephews, nieces.
Our family live overseas and we only see them once a year or once every two years. Because of the distance , family visits are long like at least few weeks, sometimes a couple of months long.
Last time my mom visited was last Christmas , when my second child was born. She come to help me out at and after the birth and I am eternally grateful for that. She stayed with us for almost 3 months and she baked almost daily and bought chocolate and candy daily for my son who was 4 yrs old at the time. First it was holidays, and I understand her excitement, but it was extreme. First I kept asking her nicely to keep it down, then firmly, than we got into a big argument. She cried, but agreed. As I found out later she didn't actually follow up, but kept doing it behind my back. She and my son often went to walk the dog, and they visited the corner store and she bought him candy again and again and again on daily basis. (we are not taking about a piece of $0.05 gummy bear, but a whole king size candy bars daily)
My son was constantly sugar high and he behaved so crazy. He started to wet the bed again and showed all kinds of behavior regression. He had such temper tantrums that we never witnessed before even when he was a toddler. He was super jealous and aggressive toward the baby. Some form of jealousy is normal, so we just thought he was reacting a bit harsher then average.
Well , when grandma left in March, all the sudden my son craziness went away . He was not jealous or aggressive toward the baby anymore . He was not throwing fist anymore, he was eating better, he was back to his nice gentle himself again.
Sometimes I wonder if my sister's 5 yrs old behavior problems (borderline ADHD) originate in the fact that my mom has a daily contact with that child. ( she walks him home from daycare) . I wouldn't be surprised if that half hr she spends with that child daily involves feeding the kid candy on daily basis. She denies it, and I am the bad guy when I warn my sister about this possibility.
Sugar highs are fiction. Sugar is a carbohydrate, which is calming. A metadata analysis showed no correlation between sugar and hyperactive behavior.
^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.0 -
^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.
How? We're talking about small children who don't KNOW that sugar supposedly makes them hyper, but yet it makes them hyper, anyway. The placebo effect only works when you think something is supposed to affect you in a certain way.0 -
I partially agree with the OP. Of course it is ok to give kids a cookie or 2 or even 3 around the holiday, nobody questioning that.
But all due respect many grandparents and aunts, especially if they are childless, have a tendency to constantly feeding treats to they grand kids , nephews, nieces.
Our family live overseas and we only see them once a year or once every two years. Because of the distance , family visits are long like at least few weeks, sometimes a couple of months long.
Last time my mom visited was last Christmas , when my second child was born. She come to help me out at and after the birth and I am eternally grateful for that. She stayed with us for almost 3 months and she baked almost daily and bought chocolate and candy daily for my son who was 4 yrs old at the time. First it was holidays, and I understand her excitement, but it was extreme. First I kept asking her nicely to keep it down, then firmly, than we got into a big argument. She cried, but agreed. As I found out later she didn't actually follow up, but kept doing it behind my back. She and my son often went to walk the dog, and they visited the corner store and she bought him candy again and again and again on daily basis. (we are not taking about a piece of $0.05 gummy bear, but a whole king size candy bars daily)
My son was constantly sugar high and he behaved so crazy. He started to wet the bed again and showed all kinds of behavior regression. He had such temper tantrums that we never witnessed before even when he was a toddler. He was super jealous and aggressive toward the baby. Some form of jealousy is normal, so we just thought he was reacting a bit harsher then average.
Well , when grandma left in March, all the sudden my son craziness went away . He was not jealous or aggressive toward the baby anymore . He was not throwing fist anymore, he was eating better, he was back to his nice gentle himself again.
Sometimes I wonder if my sister's 5 yrs old behavior problems (borderline ADHD) originate in the fact that my mom has a daily contact with that child. ( she walks him home from daycare) . I wouldn't be surprised if that half hr she spends with that child daily involves feeding the kid candy on daily basis. She denies it, and I am the bad guy when I warn my sister about this possibility.
I was on the same band wagon as you at one point in this thread with similar thoughts, but then the OP made a comment about her 5 yr old needing to "make weight" for his wrestling competitions and how a cookie would completely destroy it (paraphrasing, I think her comment is on pg 11 but could be wrong, but its in the teens if you want to look it up). She was tripping b*lls for fear that her son would GAIN WEIGHT IF HE ATE 1 COOKIE!! She lost all respect from those very few posters who sided with her at one point. I highly doubt she'll be coming back.0 -
I partially agree with the OP. Of course it is ok to give kids a cookie or 2 or even 3 around the holiday, nobody questioning that.
But all due respect many grandparents and aunts, especially if they are childless, have a tendency to constantly feeding treats to they grand kids , nephews, nieces.
Our family live overseas and we only see them once a year or once every two years. Because of the distance , family visits are long like at least few weeks, sometimes a couple of months long.
Last time my mom visited was last Christmas , when my second child was born. She come to help me out at and after the birth and I am eternally grateful for that. She stayed with us for almost 3 months and she baked almost daily and bought chocolate and candy daily for my son who was 4 yrs old at the time. First it was holidays, and I understand her excitement, but it was extreme. First I kept asking her nicely to keep it down, then firmly, than we got into a big argument. She cried, but agreed. As I found out later she didn't actually follow up, but kept doing it behind my back. She and my son often went to walk the dog, and they visited the corner store and she bought him candy again and again and again on daily basis. (we are not taking about a piece of $0.05 gummy bear, but a whole king size candy bars daily)
My son was constantly sugar high and he behaved so crazy. He started to wet the bed again and showed all kinds of behavior regression. He had such temper tantrums that we never witnessed before even when he was a toddler. He was super jealous and aggressive toward the baby. Some form of jealousy is normal, so we just thought he was reacting a bit harsher then average.
Well , when grandma left in March, all the sudden my son craziness went away . He was not jealous or aggressive toward the baby anymore . He was not throwing fist anymore, he was eating better, he was back to his nice gentle himself again.
Sometimes I wonder if my sister's 5 yrs old behavior problems (borderline ADHD) originate in the fact that my mom has a daily contact with that child. ( she walks him home from daycare) . I wouldn't be surprised if that half hr she spends with that child daily involves feeding the kid candy on daily basis. She denies it, and I am the bad guy when I warn my sister about this possibility.
I was on the same band wagon as you at one point in this thread with similar thoughts, but then the OP made a comment about her 5 yr old needing to "make weight" for his wrestling competitions and how a cookie would completely destroy it (paraphrasing, I think her comment is on pg 11 but could be wrong, but its in the teens if you want to look it up). She was tripping b*lls for fear that her son would GAIN WEIGHT IF HE ATE 1 COOKIE!! She lost all respect from those very few posters who sided with her at one point. I highly doubt she'll be coming back.
I wanted to add too, that I would not tolerate your Mother and would actually refuse allowing her to take my son out for a walk alone. I would be doing some major investigations into his behaviour and the causes of it, especially if it was a sudden and drastic change that coincided with my mother being present. When my sons where 6 and 15 months old (they are now 8 and 3) I left my children with my in-laws and went on vacation to Cuba for a week for the very first time and it was also the first time I was away from them for more then 3 days with no contact at all during the week. When I arrived home, my 6 yr old told me about how his grandpa "threw" his brother into the playpen bc he was crying and upset and wouldn't calm down, and how he "disciplined" by 1 yr old for spitting out his food by smacking him (he was disciplining my 1 yr old the same way he disciplined his children and how he was taught by his parents. He felt his actions where warranted for the situation). There where other very minor issues, and though some may see this as minor, I did not. Since then, my children have not been permitted to sleep over at his house nor does he ever babysit them. I don't even allow him to be alone with them without another adult I trust there too. My father in-law hates me as I hate him but my kids come first before his ego and need to control everyone in his family (including his son, my husband). and he can shove it!!0 -
^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.
How? We're talking about small children who don't KNOW that sugar supposedly makes them hyper, but yet it makes them hyper, anyway. The placebo effect only works when you think something is supposed to affect you in a certain way.
^^ I was thinking the same thing.0 -
^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.
How? We're talking about small children who don't KNOW that sugar supposedly makes them hyper, but yet it makes them hyper, anyway. The placebo effect only works when you think something is supposed to affect you in a certain way.
^^ I was thinking the same thing.
Generally, the times kids get more sugar are at parties, holidays,etc and the hyperactivity has more to do with the excitement of the party than with sugar consumption Also the expectations of the parents that the child would become hyper led to more hyperactivity.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130722-does-sugar-make-kids -hyperactive0 -
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this thread is still going?0
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^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.
How? We're talking about small children who don't KNOW that sugar supposedly makes them hyper, but yet it makes them hyper, anyway. The placebo effect only works when you think something is supposed to affect you in a certain way.
Sugar is a carb, which provides energy. Kids are spazz's in the first place. Don't want your kid to be hyper, then stop feeding them food.0 -
I don't have kids, but if I did and someone fed my child something after I specifically asked them not to, I would tell their child who Santa really is and remind them to ask you where babies come from.
So instead of dealing with issues with the adult, you are going to drag more kids (who have nothing to do with what that other person did) in to the situation. Okay.0 -
This topic is strongly worded on purpose - partly for fun, and also because I'm tired of having to run interference with food pushers.
My kids are allowed sweets and treats in moderation - but the next person to sneak one of my kids a cookie behind my back may be force fed a full length video of my five year old crying after he gets his backside handed to him at his next wrestling tournament.
The fact that your 5 year old child cries long enough to make a full length video after losing a sporting event is very concerning. I would deal with that issue before worrying about a few cookies.
It reminds me of an episode of wife swap where there was a pagent family that was so obssesed with winning, that their children had major behavior issues with losing. The young son didn't palce first and had a major depressive/angry episode... at 5! And the dad got violent with the swapped wife for costing his son a 1st place ribbon.
This is not normal or healthy behavior from a child.0 -
Sugar highs are fiction. Sugar is a carbohydrate, which is calming. A metadata analysis showed no correlation between sugar and hyperactive behavior.^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.
True - I was amazed to find out that the research doesn't support the sugar high that kids get - but I'd bet every Mom out there can attest to it!
I'm a firm believer in the placebo effect but I'm not sure it applies when you're talking about the sugar-high in kids. Kids don't know that's how they're "supposed" to respond to sugar.0 -
^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.
How? We're talking about small children who don't KNOW that sugar supposedly makes them hyper, but yet it makes them hyper, anyway. The placebo effect only works when you think something is supposed to affect you in a certain way.
^^ I was thinking the same thing.
Generally, the times kids get more sugar are at parties, holidays,etc and the hyperactivity has more to do with the excitement of the party than with sugar consumption Also the expectations of the parents that the child would become hyper led to more hyperactivity.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130722-does-sugar-make-kids-hyperactive
It looks like that is referring to ADHD. ADHD is not the same as a "sugar high," which is a burst of energy experienced after eating sugar, generally followed by a "crash." Sucrose is sheer carbohydrate. It's like raw energy.
And as far as the placebo effect, I don't seem to notice sugar affecting me, but if I have a Starbucks instead of my normal black coffee, I will often get questions about my behavior. I imagine that if I had Starbucks on a regular basis, then it wouldn't happen. There is something to be said for "tolerance" levels on an individual basis.0 -
Sugar highs are fiction. Sugar is a carbohydrate, which is calming. A metadata analysis showed no correlation between sugar and hyperactive behavior.^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.
True - I was amazed to find out that the research doesn't support the sugar high that kids get - but I'd bet every Mom out there can attest to it!
I'm a firm believer in the placebo effect but I'm not sure it applies when you're talking about the sugar-high in kids. Kids don't know that's how they're "supposed" to respond to sugar.
from the article cited above:
One study set out to test the expectation of parents who believed that sugar had a bad effect on their sons. In the experiment half the mothers were led to believe their sons were drinking something sugary. The other half were told the drinks really contained an artificial sweetner, not sugar. When the mothers were then asked to observe and rate their children’s behaviour, those who thought their sons had been consuming sugar said they were more hyperactive than the mothers who knew they had drank a placebo. But there was another twist to the study. While the mothers were observing their children, the researchers were observing them. They noticed that the mothers who thought their sons had drunk too much sugar not only criticised them more, they also stayed closer to them and watched them more. So the supposed sugar had not changed the boys’ behaviour, but their mothers’.0 -
FFS. If my mum wants to mainline my kids with sucrose for a day or 2 she can go ahead. If my kids diets were constantly crappy, then I wouldn't have the knowledge to care then anyway. My kids diets are ok- they drink fizzy pop and eat lollies. They also recognise what broccoli is, so i think we're doing ok.
My point is if they want to feed them sugary treats they can crack on, as long as they deal with 3 kids with dilated pupils screaming bloody murder around the garden.
God, this whole thread seems a bit severe. It's a bloody cookie. Would it make you feel better if it was organic?0 -
That sixth cookie is vital. If a child eats six cookies in one day, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOLIDAYS, it can be deadly.
Educate yourselves!
I think you meant that "Sith Cookie". LOL Good one about the 6th cookie.
Not too worried about my child, no allergies (which is a bigger concern). He's learning to eat healthy and that the sugars are okay every once in a while. I don't deny him but I've been on my own roller coaster with weight and attempts at losing weight that he's learned that green beans are a good food to eat and likes them (I would snack on green beans with a bit of a cajun spice on them and he wanted what mom was eating). He also likes his "trees" (broccoli) as much as he likes his dessert (he tries for ice cream or cookies but doesn't always get due to the time he asks).0 -
I partially agree with the OP. Of course it is ok to give kids a cookie or 2 or even 3 around the holiday, nobody questioning that.
But all due respect many grandparents and aunts, especially if they are childless, have a tendency to constantly feeding treats to they grand kids , nephews, nieces.
Our family live overseas and we only see them once a year or once every two years. Because of the distance , family visits are long like at least few weeks, sometimes a couple of months long.
Last time my mom visited was last Christmas , when my second child was born. She come to help me out at and after the birth and I am eternally grateful for that. She stayed with us for almost 3 months and she baked almost daily and bought chocolate and candy daily for my son who was 4 yrs old at the time. First it was holidays, and I understand her excitement, but it was extreme. First I kept asking her nicely to keep it down, then firmly, than we got into a big argument. She cried, but agreed. As I found out later she didn't actually follow up, but kept doing it behind my back. She and my son often went to walk the dog, and they visited the corner store and she bought him candy again and again and again on daily basis. (we are not taking about a piece of $0.05 gummy bear, but a whole king size candy bars daily)
My son was constantly sugar high and he behaved so crazy. He started to wet the bed again and showed all kinds of behavior regression. He had such temper tantrums that we never witnessed before even when he was a toddler. He was super jealous and aggressive toward the baby. Some form of jealousy is normal, so we just thought he was reacting a bit harsher then average.
Well , when grandma left in March, all the sudden my son craziness went away . He was not jealous or aggressive toward the baby anymore . He was not throwing fist anymore, he was eating better, he was back to his nice gentle himself again.
Sometimes I wonder if my sister's 5 yrs old behavior problems (borderline ADHD) originate in the fact that my mom has a daily contact with that child. ( she walks him home from daycare) . I wouldn't be surprised if that half hr she spends with that child daily involves feeding the kid candy on daily basis. She denies it, and I am the bad guy when I warn my sister about this possibility.
Sugar highs are fiction. Sugar is a carbohydrate, which is calming. A metadata analysis showed no correlation between sugar and hyperactive behavior.
I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.0
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