Harming children to make yourself feel good?

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  • dayone987
    dayone987 Posts: 645 Member
    ^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.

    How? We're talking about small children who don't KNOW that sugar supposedly makes them hyper, but yet it makes them hyper, anyway. The placebo effect only works when you think something is supposed to affect you in a certain way.

    ^^ I was thinking the same thing.

    Generally, the times kids get more sugar are at parties, holidays,etc and the hyperactivity has more to do with the excitement of the party than with sugar consumption Also the expectations of the parents that the child would become hyper led to more hyperactivity.

    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130722-does-sugar-make-kids-hyperactive

    It looks like that is referring to ADHD. ADHD is not the same as a "sugar high," which is a burst of energy experienced after eating sugar, generally followed by a "crash." Sucrose is sheer carbohydrate. It's like raw energy.

    And as far as the placebo effect, I don't seem to notice sugar affecting me, but if I have a Starbucks instead of my normal black coffee, I will often get questions about my behavior. I imagine that if I had Starbucks on a regular basis, then it wouldn't happen. There is something to be said for "tolerance" levels on an individual basis.

    The articles speaks mostly about kids getting hyper at parties. Towards the end it mentions a possible link between long term sugar consumption and ADHD.

    The Starbucks difference is most likely related caffeine levels; not sure if that's what you're referring to in regards to tolerance?
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    Sugar highs are fiction. Sugar is a carbohydrate, which is calming. A metadata analysis showed no correlation between sugar and hyperactive behavior.
    ^^^this, the sugar high out of control is placebo effect.


    True - I was amazed to find out that the research doesn't support the sugar high that kids get - but I'd bet every Mom out there can attest to it!

    I'm a firm believer in the placebo effect but I'm not sure it applies when you're talking about the sugar-high in kids. Kids don't know that's how they're "supposed" to respond to sugar.

    I remember kids talking about it when I was little, so they definitely know they're "supposed" to get a high from it.

    Also I was reading about whether pets experience a placebo effect the other day. The answer was no, but there are some theories as to why it seems that way. Conditioning and expectancy are two of them.

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/is-there-a-placebo-effect-for-animals/

    If pets can seem to have a placebo effect, the same could be true for kids. And once they're old enough to understand, they're exposed to the idea of the sugar high, which could influence behavior.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


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  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    I like naps too. And sugar.

    And it might. This thread is now about ADHD and sugar.
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    I like naps too. And sugar.

    And it might. This thread is now about ADHD and sugar.

    Don't mind me... I just want to roll this thread...

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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    I like naps too. And sugar.

    And it might. This thread is now about ADHD and sugar.

    Don't mind me... I just want to roll this thread...

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  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    Also, I like turtles.

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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    Also, I like turtles.

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  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    I like naps too. And sugar.

    And it might. This thread is now about ADHD and sugar.

    Don't mind me... I just want to roll this thread...

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    Joy, you're good people.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    I like naps too. And sugar.

    And it might. This thread is now about ADHD and sugar.

    Don't mind me... I just want to roll this thread...

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    rolling-puppy-o.gif

    Joy, you're good people.

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  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    I like naps too. And sugar.

    And it might. This thread is now about ADHD and sugar.

    Don't mind me... I just want to roll this thread...

    tumblr_mag8fhE96c1qj6dh1o1_400.gif

    rolling-puppy-o.gif

    Joy, you're good people.

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    d@mn puppy won't load!!!

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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    I like naps too. And sugar.

    And it might. This thread is now about ADHD and sugar.

    Don't mind me... I just want to roll this thread...

    tumblr_mag8fhE96c1qj6dh1o1_400.gif

    rolling-puppy-o.gif

    Joy, you're good people.

    chopper.gif

    Too-Cute-Puppy.gif

    d@mn puppy won't load!!!

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  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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  • Amitysk
    Amitysk Posts: 705 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    Also, I like turtles.

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    In again for the turtles...
  • MelsAuntie
    MelsAuntie Posts: 2,833 Member
    I have a dog (not exactly the same thing) but you would be amazed how many people think it's ok to give an animal people food. Anytime I go to a social gather I make it clear to everyone that it is not OK to feed my dog anything. I think it's a parent's responsibility (or pet owner) to have that talk with family/friends. Don't just assume that everyone should know.

    You take your dog to "social gathers"??????????? wow.
  • summertime_girl
    summertime_girl Posts: 3,945 Member
    ****. Someone should just call CPS on me. Take 'em away before I harm them any longer.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I always wondered about that as a kid because sugar just made me want a nap.

    I like naps.


    (Is this thread actually going to roll?)

    I like naps too. And sugar.

    And it might. This thread is now about ADHD and sugar.

    I have ADHD...and I eat sugar.

    ZOMG! Do you think that caused it???
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    HYPNOTHREAD

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  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    I have a dog (not exactly the same thing) but you would be amazed how many people think it's ok to give an animal people food. Anytime I go to a social gather I make it clear to everyone that it is not OK to feed my dog anything. I think it's a parent's responsibility (or pet owner) to have that talk with family/friends. Don't just assume that everyone should know.

    You take your dog to "social gathers"??????????? wow.

    I take my dogs to social gatherings. Not just any social gatherings but if I'm hanging out with other dog people we all bring our dogs. Or if I'm going to stay with my folks for a week (they live 1000 miles away).
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    I am troubled by the one or two frames of what looks like Blue's Clues Thinking Chair. Why? Why is that there?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    I am troubled by the one or two frames of what looks like Blue's Clues Thinking Chair. Why? Why is that there?

    omg, you are right! :laugh:
  • MelsAuntie
    MelsAuntie Posts: 2,833 Member
    Have some marzipan babies
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    Wow! Who could actually bring themselves to eat those?!?!?





    That is the creepiest, grossest thing EVER.
  • GothicaAdore
    GothicaAdore Posts: 82 Member
    I will feed all of your children cookies, brownies and cake. Fair warning!

    My house will have all of the snack food, I will bake pies and cupcakes.

    I will have a tire swing and a unfinished tree house. There will be a bike ramp to do tricks off of. Someone will end up needing stitches.
  • mammamaurer
    mammamaurer Posts: 418 Member
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  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
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    I am troubled by the one or two frames of what looks like Blue's Clues Thinking Chair. Why? Why is that there?

    omg, you are right! :laugh:

    subliminal message... it says...

    EAT MOAR COOKIES!!!!!
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
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    I am troubled by the one or two frames of what looks like Blue's Clues Thinking Chair. Why? Why is that there?

    omg, you are right! :laugh:

    subliminal message... it says...

    EAT MOAR COOKIES!!!!!

    Are there no limits to the insidiousness of Big Food™ ?
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    Have some marzipan babies
    marzipan-babies.jpg

    Wow! Who could actually bring themselves to eat those?!?!?





    That is the creepiest, grossest thing EVER.

    I would eat those babies!!!
    I'd stick them in a big ol' king cake and eat them.
    Then I'd log the calories.

    How many calories in a baby??
  • mammamaurer
    mammamaurer Posts: 418 Member
    I will feed all of your children cookies, brownies and cake. Fair warning!

    My house will have all of the snack food, I will bake pies and cupcakes.

    I will have a tire swing and a unfinished tree house. There will be a bike ramp to do tricks off of. Someone will end up needing stitches.

    so when can i drop them at your house? from the sound of it they will crash after about 3 hours and thats plenty of time for a dinner out :)

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