Beware the uninformed

GGDaddy

There seem to be quite a few people who peruse the forums simply looking for someone to argue with.

NO THERE AREN'T! :mad:

YES THERE ARE! I will now commence criticizing parts of your personality that are totally unrelated to this argument.

NO THERE AREN'T!! I shall now begin attacking strawman arguments you didn't make and searching for minor spelling errers to critisize.

Mr_Bad_Example

Cranquistador

Is sugar bad for you?

BrainyBurro

Just a quick rant here. There seem to be quite a few people who peruse the forums simply looking for someone to argue with. It's not a very intelligent decision if you attack someone who actually knows what they are talking about, because if you would just listen and learn, you might find ways to be healthier. The internet is full of trash blogs and studies that are completely inaccurate. In order to find the best information, you need to stick to medical websites, or talk to those who are experts in the field, or have a lot of training and education.
I myself work in the medical field and have for many years. I've studied diet and fitness as well, independently of my job, for college courses and for my own benefit. Just because someone tells you something in a forum, please don't assume they know what they are talking about. Please take the time to ask them what their expertise is in the area about which you are receiving information and advice.

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mccindy72

can you please describe the difference between "informed" and "uninformed"? what credentials and education does one need to have in order to be "informed"? can this knowledge be obtained by reading and analyzing peer reviewed, scientific studies?

thanks for the clarification OP.

Anyone who has done research involving credible sources is informed. I don't think it requires any type of credentials to be informed, it's just about knowing the real facts about things and not continuing to propagate belief in information that is not correct. I'm the first person to admit if I am incorrect about something, especially if someone can give me new information. I have an issue with closed-minded people who just assume that what they know or have heard is the truth and won't listen to a rational discussion that might include new information.

Marcia315

Is sugar bad for you?

It's the debbil.

Phoenix_Warrior

Is sugar bad for you?

It's the debbil.

Nuh. What about that stuff from nature?

ryry_

OP's name is MCcindy. Coincidence? I think not.

Your Pro McDonald's propaganda is not wanted here. Go back under your golden arches you scorpion woman!

Ophidion

mccindy72

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stop assuming that you are the only one that knows what they are talking about just because you work in the medical field. a lot of individuals have outdated knowledge
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If you read my entire post you would have noticed I did not say simply that I work in the medical field. I also said that I have done extensive research outside of my profession, both for educational and personal reasons. I continue to do research all the time to learn the newest information and am always open to learn from others who also have knowledge and experience. I've never assumed I'm the only one who knows what I am talking about. What I am noticing is that there are a lot of ignorant, uninformed people who like to share their opinion and then be close-minded about learning anything new during a follow-up discussion.

mccindy72

OP's name is MCcindy. Coincidence? I think not.

Your Pro McDonald's propaganda is not wanted here. Go back under your golden arches you scorpion woman!

Ew, McDonald's is nasty.

Achrya

In to be informed by a random Internet stranger claiming to be a medical professional.

And, while we're all taking the OP's health advice, I'm a financial advisor and if you send me your savings I'll double or triple it. You can trust me, random internet strangers never lie.

Phoenix_Warrior

Look. At. That. Sexy. Body. Clearly, he knows his stuff.

TR0berts

Pro tip: A number of "nutritionists" barely pass a non-proxied online test to receive their credentials and have no idea what they are talking about. Also, a number of doctors don't specialize in nutrition and haven't kept up with the latest research. In addition, many (not all) personal trainers know only what they've read in bodybuilding magazines that are trying to sell something. As such, these people, that would - on the surface - seem to be good sources for nutritional knowledge and advice, are woefully ignorant of useful information and lack the expertise to advise people.

On the other hand, there are a number of people that actually have some sort of scientific background and know how to read and analyze studies. Some of these people are actually up to date on the latest research, even though they haven't spent the money to get certified.


TL/DR: Just because you have a fancy title, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.

Commander_Keen

Truth be told there is a way too much information out there, and its extreamly hard to go through all the crap out there.
Everybody needs to get a 2nd and 3rd opion about everything.

Now, I am going to attempt to hijack this thread..

Who are poeople prefer to get trained by.
Arnold who is old school, old outdated research
Brock Lessner: New school new research?

mccindy72

In to be informed by a random Internet stranger claiming to be a medical professional.

And, while we're all taking the OP's health advice, I'm a financial advisor and if you send me your savings I'll double or triple it. You can trust me, random internet strangers never lie.

Pretty sure I never told anyone to take my advice. I've only offered it to those who have asked for help, I posted this OP based on being personally attacked about the information I was giving to someone else.

hookilau

Just a quick rant here. There seem to be quite a few people who peruse the forums simply looking for someone to argue with. It's not a very intelligent decision if you attack someone who actually knows what they are talking about, because if you would just listen and learn, you might find ways to be healthier. The internet is full of trash blogs and studies that are completely inaccurate. In order to find the best information, you need to stick to medical websites, or talk to those who are experts in the field, or have a lot of training and education.
I myself work in the medical field and have for many years. I've studied diet and fitness as well, independently of my job, for college courses and for my own benefit. Just because someone tells you something in a forum, please don't assume they know what they are talking about. Please take the time to ask them what their expertise is in the area about which you are receiving information and advice.

Excellent advice....however I might add that just because someone is in the medical field, doesn't mean they know what they are talking about as things pertain to *YOU* in particular.

Only you can decide whether things are suited to you or not, too many factors to account for.

In short, be proactive, ask questions and hone your critical thinking skills

mccindy72

Pro tip: A number of "nutritionists" barely pass a non-proxied online test to receive their credentials and have no idea what they are talking about. Also, a number of doctors don't specialize in nutrition and haven't kept up with the latest research. In addition, many (not all) personal trainers know only what they've read in bodybuilding magazines that are trying to sell something. As such, these people, that would - on the surface - seem to be good sources for nutritional knowledge and advice, are woefully ignorant of useful information and lack the expertise to advise people.

On the other hand, there are a number of people that actually have some sort of scientific background and know how to read and analyze studies. Some of these people are actually up to date on the latest research, even though they haven't spent the money to get certified.


TL/DR: Just because you have a fancy title, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.

My medical title has absolutely nothing to do with fitness and nutrition, and I do have a scientific background and know how to read and analyze studies. That's where the majority of my knowledge comes from.

ryry_

Truth be told there is a way too much information out there, and its extreamly hard to go through all the crap out there.
Everybody needs to get a 2nd and 3rd opion about everything.

Now, I am going to attempt to hijack this thread..

Who are poeople prefer to get trained by.
Arnold who is old school, old outdated research
Brock Lessner: New school new research?

Calorie Deficit to Lose Weight
Calorie Surplus to Gain Weight
Progressive Overload
Cardio to shift the equation to your liking
Adequate protein for muscle maintenance and development
Fruits and Veggies are Good for you
Bread/Sugar/Carbs will not make you fat unless accompanied by a prolonged calorie surplus
My momma said

BrainyBurro

all i need to know is...

...where they spent the night last night.