Beware the uninformed
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OP's name is MCcindy. Coincidence? I think not.
Your Pro McDonald's propaganda is not wanted here. Go back under your golden arches you scorpion woman!
Ew, McDonald's is nasty.0 -
In to be informed by a random Internet stranger claiming to be a medical professional.
And, while we're all taking the OP's health advice, I'm a financial advisor and if you send me your savings I'll double or triple it. You can trust me, random internet strangers never lie.0 -
Look. At. That. Sexy. Body. Clearly, he knows his stuff.0 -
Pro tip: A number of "nutritionists" barely pass a non-proxied online test to receive their credentials and have no idea what they are talking about. Also, a number of doctors don't specialize in nutrition and haven't kept up with the latest research. In addition, many (not all) personal trainers know only what they've read in bodybuilding magazines that are trying to sell something. As such, these people, that would - on the surface - seem to be good sources for nutritional knowledge and advice, are woefully ignorant of useful information and lack the expertise to advise people.
On the other hand, there are a number of people that actually have some sort of scientific background and know how to read and analyze studies. Some of these people are actually up to date on the latest research, even though they haven't spent the money to get certified.
TL/DR: Just because you have a fancy title, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.0 -
Truth be told there is a way too much information out there, and its extreamly hard to go through all the crap out there.
Everybody needs to get a 2nd and 3rd opion about everything.
Now, I am going to attempt to hijack this thread..
Who are poeople prefer to get trained by.
Arnold who is old school, old outdated research
Brock Lessner: New school new research?0 -
In to be informed by a random Internet stranger claiming to be a medical professional.
And, while we're all taking the OP's health advice, I'm a financial advisor and if you send me your savings I'll double or triple it. You can trust me, random internet strangers never lie.
Pretty sure I never told anyone to take my advice. I've only offered it to those who have asked for help, I posted this OP based on being personally attacked about the information I was giving to someone else.0 -
Just a quick rant here. There seem to be quite a few people who peruse the forums simply looking for someone to argue with. It's not a very intelligent decision if you attack someone who actually knows what they are talking about, because if you would just listen and learn, you might find ways to be healthier. The internet is full of trash blogs and studies that are completely inaccurate. In order to find the best information, you need to stick to medical websites, or talk to those who are experts in the field, or have a lot of training and education.
I myself work in the medical field and have for many years. I've studied diet and fitness as well, independently of my job, for college courses and for my own benefit. Just because someone tells you something in a forum, please don't assume they know what they are talking about. Please take the time to ask them what their expertise is in the area about which you are receiving information and advice.
Excellent advice....however I might add that just because someone is in the medical field, doesn't mean they know what they are talking about as things pertain to *YOU* in particular.
Only you can decide whether things are suited to you or not, too many factors to account for.
In short, be proactive, ask questions and hone your critical thinking skills
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Pro tip: A number of "nutritionists" barely pass a non-proxied online test to receive their credentials and have no idea what they are talking about. Also, a number of doctors don't specialize in nutrition and haven't kept up with the latest research. In addition, many (not all) personal trainers know only what they've read in bodybuilding magazines that are trying to sell something. As such, these people, that would - on the surface - seem to be good sources for nutritional knowledge and advice, are woefully ignorant of useful information and lack the expertise to advise people.
On the other hand, there are a number of people that actually have some sort of scientific background and know how to read and analyze studies. Some of these people are actually up to date on the latest research, even though they haven't spent the money to get certified.
TL/DR: Just because you have a fancy title, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
My medical title has absolutely nothing to do with fitness and nutrition, and I do have a scientific background and know how to read and analyze studies. That's where the majority of my knowledge comes from.0 -
Truth be told there is a way too much information out there, and its extreamly hard to go through all the crap out there.
Everybody needs to get a 2nd and 3rd opion about everything.
Now, I am going to attempt to hijack this thread..
Who are poeople prefer to get trained by.
Arnold who is old school, old outdated research
Brock Lessner: New school new research?
Calorie Deficit to Lose Weight
Calorie Surplus to Gain Weight
Progressive Overload
Cardio to shift the equation to your liking
Adequate protein for muscle maintenance and development
Fruits and Veggies are Good for you
Bread/Sugar/Carbs will not make you fat unless accompanied by a prolonged calorie surplus
My momma said0 -
all i need to know is...
...where they spent the night last night.
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In to be informed by a random Internet stranger claiming to be a medical professional.
And, while we're all taking the OP's health advice, I'm a financial advisor and if you send me your savings I'll double or triple it. You can trust me, random internet strangers never lie.
Pretty sure I never told anyone to take my advice. I've only offered it to those who have asked for help, I posted this OP based on being personally attacked about the information I was giving to someone else.
mccindy, how about a link to this alledged "Attack"...usually it is someone (you) being too sensitive.
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In to be informed by a random Internet stranger claiming to be a medical professional.
And, while we're all taking the OP's health advice, I'm a financial advisor and if you send me your savings I'll double or triple it. You can trust me, random internet strangers never lie.
Pretty sure I never told anyone to take my advice. I've only offered it to those who have asked for help, I posted this OP based on being personally attacked about the information I was giving to someone else.
Oh. So this is a butthurt rant.
Less amused now.0 -
For myself, I can agree with the don't listen to what everyone says.
However, I would hope they would research claims out themselves before taking to heart what a stranger says online. If not then it becomes their problem for being naïve.
My big gripe is just the all for nothing answers I see on here. Not everything works for everyone so just because it works for you does not mean it is right for me.
But I do appreciate everyone's opinions when they are genuine and sincere and not with that occasional Bull****!
Not everyone is me so maybe the easily manipulated need to take heed to this kind of warning. lol0 -
If you read the original post, you'll see I was just venting a bit about how people decide to argue. I'm not offended or insulted by the dude on the other feed, I just wanted to vent about it. Reaching out - isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about? Although at this point I have my doubts.0
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Pro tip: A number of "nutritionists" barely pass a non-proxied online test to receive their credentials and have no idea what they are talking about. Also, a number of doctors don't specialize in nutrition and haven't kept up with the latest research. In addition, many (not all) personal trainers know only what they've read in bodybuilding magazines that are trying to sell something. As such, these people, that would - on the surface - seem to be good sources for nutritional knowledge and advice, are woefully ignorant of useful information and lack the expertise to advise people.
On the other hand, there are a number of people that actually have some sort of scientific background and know how to read and analyze studies. Some of these people are actually up to date on the latest research, even though they haven't spent the money to get certified.
TL/DR: Just because you have a fancy title, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
know how to read and analyze studies.
Me too. No medical background.
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If you read the original post, you'll see I was just venting a bit about how people decide to argue. I'm not offended or insulted by the dude on the other feed, I just wanted to vent about it. Reaching out - isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about? Although at this point I have my doubts.
Totally uncalled for. No need to attack and be judgemental0 -
thisIn to be informed by a random Internet stranger claiming to be a medical professional.
And, while we're all taking the OP's health advice, I'm a financial advisor and if you send me your savings I'll double or triple it. You can trust me, random internet strangers never lie.
Pretty sure I never told anyone to take my advice. I've only offered it to those who have asked for help, I posted this OP based on being personally attacked about the information I was giving to someone else.
mccindy, how about a link to this alledged "Attack"...usually it is someone (you) being too sensitive.0 -
mccindy, how about a link to this alledged "Attack"...usually it is someone (you) being too sensitive.
My guess? It's here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1156847-i-m-really-frustrated-with-how-to-eat-to-lose-fat
Specifically, where she speaks about lengthening muscles and such.0 -
mccindy, how about a link to this alledged "Attack"...usually it is someone (you) being too sensitive.
My guess? It's here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1156847-i-m-really-frustrated-with-how-to-eat-to-lose-fat
Specifically, where she speaks about lengthening muscles and such.
Nope.0 -
If you read the original post, you'll see I was just venting a bit about how people decide to argue. I'm not offended or insulted by the dude on the other feed, I just wanted to vent about it. Reaching out - isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about? Although at this point I have my doubts.
No, you posted the original post to let people know that they should be cautious in believing people. Good advice in all of life.
THEN you cam back and said, "people were mean to me."
That will get you attention that you really won't like.
Good luck with this approach. :flowerforyou:0 -
TL/DR: Just because you have a fancy title, doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
^^ x100!0 -
If you read the original post, you'll see I was just venting a bit about how people decide to argue. I'm not offended or insulted by the dude on the other feed, I just wanted to vent about it. Reaching out - isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about? Although at this point I have my doubts.
Variation of "you're not supportive"
Is that on the bingo card?0 -
If you read the original post, you'll see I was just venting a bit about how people decide to argue. I'm not offended or insulted by the dude on the other feed, I just wanted to vent about it. Reaching out - isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about? Although at this point I have my doubts.
No, you posted the original post to let people know that they should be cautious in believing people. Good advice in all of life.
THEN you cam back and said, "people were mean to me."
That will get you attention that you really won't like.
Good luck with this approach. :flowerforyou:
Again, read while closely paying attention. I did not say people were mean to me, I said someone attacked me while I was offering advice to someone else. There's a difference between an adult discussion between people who disagree and can speak calmly about it (which I enjoy) and people who feel it's necessary to give insult and call names. Emotions during debate usually lead to someone losing control of their argument and lashing out.0 -
Really? You're going to try to shift attention on to my reading skills?If you read the original post, you'll see I was just venting a bit about how people decide to argue. I'm not offended or insulted by the dude on the other feed, I just wanted to vent about it. Reaching out - isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about? Although at this point I have my doubts.
No, you posted the original post to let people know that they should be cautious in believing people. Good advice in all of life.
THEN you cam back and said, "people were mean to me."
That will get you attention that you really won't like.
Good luck with this approach. :flowerforyou:
Again, read while closely paying attention. I did not say people were mean to me, I said someone attacked me while I was offering advice to someone else. There's a difference between an adult discussion between people who disagree and can speak calmly about it (which I enjoy) and people who feel it's necessary to give insult and call names. Emotions during debate usually lead to someone losing control of their argument and lashing out.
Again, good luck with your blame game.0 -
Really? You're going to try to shift attention on to my reading skills?If you read the original post, you'll see I was just venting a bit about how people decide to argue. I'm not offended or insulted by the dude on the other feed, I just wanted to vent about it. Reaching out - isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about? Although at this point I have my doubts.
No, you posted the original post to let people know that they should be cautious in believing people. Good advice in all of life.
THEN you cam back and said, "people were mean to me."
That will get you attention that you really won't like.
Good luck with this approach. :flowerforyou:
Again, read while closely paying attention. I did not say people were mean to me, I said someone attacked me while I was offering advice to someone else. There's a difference between an adult discussion between people who disagree and can speak calmly about it (which I enjoy) and people who feel it's necessary to give insult and call names. Emotions during debate usually lead to someone losing control of their argument and lashing out.
Again, good luck with your blame game.
I'm directing your ability to comprehend what you are reading and apply it to the current discussion. You misunderstood the previous post and I thought you should take a second to make sure you were understanding the point.0 -
If you read the original post, you'll see I was just venting a bit about how people decide to argue. I'm not offended or insulted by the dude on the other feed, I just wanted to vent about it. Reaching out - isn't that what this site is supposed to be all about? Although at this point I have my doubts.
Variation of "you're not supportive"
Is that on the bingo card?
Hmm. I'll allow it.
So we have: Mean People Rant
MFP/the forums aren't very supportive
That's what this site is for/we're all here for the same reasons
I'm an expert
Have I missed any? Anyone have bingo?0 -
mccindy, how about a link to this alledged "Attack"...usually it is someone (you) being too sensitive.
My guess? It's here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1156847-i-m-really-frustrated-with-how-to-eat-to-lose-fat
Specifically, where she speaks about lengthening muscles and such.
Nope.
It's this:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1157181-help-new-and-need-some-suggestions
A low carb debate.0 -
Again, read while closely paying attention. I did not say people were mean to me, I said someone attacked me while I was offering advice to someone else. There's a difference between an adult discussion between people who disagree and can speak calmly about it (which I enjoy) and people who feel it's necessary to give insult and call names. Emotions during debate usually lead to someone losing control of their argument and lashing out.
Insulted angry condescending OP is insulted, angry, and condescending.0 -
The uninformed ruin a lot more than website forums.
The list is too long..........................0
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