Nobel Prize Winner picks Diet of the Future

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  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    Fruits and vegetables for human consumption are mostly unsubsidized:

    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/fairness-why-fruits-vegetables-are-excluded-from-farm-subsidies/#.UttJamQo5O0

    And grains? Poster said crops. We obviously grow enormous quantities of grain in this country.

    Many farm subsidies go to farms producing grain to feed livestock.

    Which totally explains the demand for and supply of grass fed animals.
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    Fruits and vegetables for human consumption are mostly unsubsidized:

    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/fairness-why-fruits-vegetables-are-excluded-from-farm-subsidies/#.UttJamQo5O0

    And grains? Poster said crops. We obviously grow enormous quantities of grain in this country.

    Many farm subsidies go to farms producing grain to feed livestock.

    And many go to farms producing grain to feed humans. So?
  • Marcolter
    Marcolter Posts: 103 Member
    I try to eat as little animal protein as I can, and try to use local farm meat that treat animals with respect for their life. My main concern is to avoid factory farmed raised tortured creatures. I believe the stress hormones of all these wretched creatures that humans eat from these torture factories, pass toxins into to our bodies if not, bad karma. I hate seeing animals suffer but I respect how the American Indians thanked animals for the sacrifice of their lives for food. If you eat meat, respect the life that was taken.
  • Fit2Strip
    Fit2Strip Posts: 280 Member
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  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
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  • MadameLAL
    MadameLAL Posts: 108
    Fruits and vegetables for human consumption are mostly unsubsidized:

    http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/fairness-why-fruits-vegetables-are-excluded-from-farm-subsidies/#.UttJamQo5O0

    And grains? Poster said crops. We obviously grow enormous quantities of grain in this country.

    Many farm subsidies go to farms producing grain to feed livestock.

    And many go to farms producing grain to feed humans. So?

    So pass the doritos.
  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
    I've been in and out of this thread, I don't even remember what the original point of it was. Well I slightly remember, seeing as how it's in the title.

    But then it quickly degraded into a vegan vs non vegan flame war.......and something about bears?

    This is why I love Laura Miller. She's a (mostly) raw food vegan, and she is totally chill about it. She makes recipes on the Youtube channel TasteMade. Her segment is "Raw. Vegan. Not Gross." She makes her recipes very accessible so that people who are either being introduced to the lifestyle or just want to get a little more veggies in their diet are able to use it.

    There are some awesome vegan and vegetarian people out there who don't have an elitist view of their diet lifestyle and don't shove their views down other people's throats. I feel like the opposite has happened here. So, here's a llama:

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  • fishnbrah
    fishnbrah Posts: 550
    It would be awesome if more people were vegetarian or vegan.

    I try to eat as little animal protein as I can, and try to use local farm meat
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  • Cait_Sidhe
    Cait_Sidhe Posts: 3,150 Member
    Haven't even read the first portion of this thread yet, but wow. The condescending remarks are impressive in just this one little page.
  • Shedding4Wedding2014
    Shedding4Wedding2014 Posts: 92 Member
    I've been in and out of this thread, I don't even remember what the original point of it was. Well I slightly remember, seeing as how it's in the title.

    But then it quickly degraded into a vegan vs non vegan flame war.......and something about bears?

    This is why I love Laura Miller. She's a (mostly) raw food vegan, and she is totally chill about it. She makes recipes on the Youtube channel TasteMade. Her segment is "Raw. Vegan. Not Gross." She makes her recipes very accessible so that people who are either being introduced to the lifestyle or just want to get a little more veggies in their diet are able to use it.

    There are some awesome vegan and vegetarian people out there who don't have an elitist view of their diet lifestyle and don't shove their views down other people's throats. I feel like the opposite has happened here. So, here's a llama:

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    Thread winner!
  • Whambam087
    Whambam087 Posts: 170
    And this thread goes on...lol. I think the gist of the OP's original article said vegetarianism would eventually take on when many people made the connection, "hey why is ok to eat that cow, but not Fido? Why do we keep some animals as pets and give them love and affection, but reserve others for main course on the dinner table?" And I have to say yeah I wouldn't dream of eating Fido but just because we eat meat that does not mean we have to eat every animal under the sun or nothing at all. Carnivorous animals don't even eat every imaginable animal, they pretty much stick with a few select prey animals. And besides humans are omnivores and we need some meat in our diet to function optimally so we pretty much have to eat something. I guess if we had no choice we could live off of vegetables but we wouldn't thrive. Not everyone does well on vegetarian diets.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    Considering Alvin Roth is vegan, what do people expect him to say? If it was sustainable and humans could have thrived on such a diet, it would have come to pass.
  • Whambam087
    Whambam087 Posts: 170
    If a vegetarian diet was the healthiest diet without question I would choose to eat that way, but I've tried it in the past and I didn't feel healthier on one actually I felt pretty bad. And that's even with me making sure I'm eating a wide variety of whole foods and not filling up on junk. I don't care if other people choose to be vegetarian but it's annoying when people make the claim that everyone should be vegetarian. Why am I going to subject myself to a diet that makes me feel unwell? Because it's unethical to eat meat? So are carnivores being unethical when they eat their natural diet then? Factory farms are twisted and seriously disturbing but I don't see anything wrong with eating an animal that lives it's natural life and is treated well.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    If a vegetarian diet was the healthiest diet without question I would choose to eat that way, but I've tried it in the past and I didn't feel healthier on one actually I felt pretty bad. And that's even with me making sure I'm eating a wide variety of whole foods and not filling up on junk. I don't care if other people choose to be vegetarian but it's annoying when people make the claim that everyone should be vegetarian. Why am I going to subject myself to a diet that makes me feel unwell? Because it's unethical to eat meat? So are carnivores being unethical when they eat their natural diet then? Factory farms are twisted and seriously disturbing but I don't see anything wrong with eating an animal that lives it's natural life and is treated well.
    Not to discount the effects of your health, but a vegetarian diet is not comparable to a vegan diet.
  • Whambam087
    Whambam087 Posts: 170
    If a vegetarian diet was the healthiest diet without question I would choose to eat that way, but I've tried it in the past and I didn't feel healthier on one actually I felt pretty bad. And that's even with me making sure I'm eating a wide variety of whole foods and not filling up on junk. I don't care if other people choose to be vegetarian but it's annoying when people make the claim that everyone should be vegetarian. Why am I going to subject myself to a diet that makes me feel unwell? Because it's unethical to eat meat? So are carnivores being unethical when they eat their natural diet then? Factory farms are twisted and seriously disturbing but I don't see anything wrong with eating an animal that lives it's natural aa and is treated well.
    Not to discount the effects of your health, but a vegetarian diet is not comparable to a vegan diet.
    Well yes that is true. Including some animal products like eggs and dairy does make a big difference. Vegetarian is a lot easier and more doable than vegan

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