Nobel Prize Winner picks Diet of the Future
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Hope your not claiming I said humans are herbivores. Although many are. Or that I claim that " this is the way we are supposed to eat" .
Also, that vegans claim that "its the way we are supposed to eat"Veganism was impossible before the advent of B12 supplemtd made from microbes.
So?
Just pointing it out. Veganism is impossible without chemicals produced and refined in a lab.
Again, it baffles me why this matters to you.
It was in reference to the claim that humans are herbivores.
There is a difference between "being" a herbivore and successfully living a vegan lifestyle, there are a lot of vegan humans but as of yet it is science and industry that accomodate this, not being born a herbivore....
which has been argued ad nauseam in this very thread.
Somewhere in our huge world population, there are probably some individuals who can eat a plant-based diet without supplemental vitamin B12. Hopefully, there's no natural calamity that helps reveal who those people are by natural selection. In the meantime, I love the technology that improves our lives, including vitamin B12 which is generally recommended to the general population over the age of 50.0 -
I'm still catching up on this thread...(currently back on page 10 and surprised it's even still here)...but please, oh please, for the love of all things good and holy, someone please tell me that *everyone* figures out the apparently-too-confusing quote tags before this thing ends. (Seriously, how difficult is that? Don't delete the things in the brackets...and put your response after all of those bracketed words. That's it.)
Okay, intermission's over...now back to the show.0 -
Why not?I would like to see home gardens become more popular.
*LIKE.
Home gardens don't produce many calories per day.
because I live in New Brunswick Canada and our growing season is short and veggies don't have a tonne of calories and it's hard when you have a big garden to actually eat it all before it goes bad...I even can/bottle/pickle and I still have to give a crap tonne of the stuff away...and even then lots ends up in the composter.
We have a hard time growing tropical items in a zone 4a or 4b
Come on! All of those millions in urban settings need to become self sufficient. Nothing like fields of kale growing in lower manhattan
Kale already tastes like crap:sick: you add in urban Manhattan toxins...amg...blech...:sick:
Reasons I didn't farm when I lived there and chose instead to enjoy the steakhouses0 -
Why not?I would like to see home gardens become more popular.
*LIKE.
Home gardens don't produce many calories per day.
because I live in New Brunswick Canada and our growing season is short and veggies don't have a tonne of calories and it's hard when you have a big garden to actually eat it all before it goes bad...I even can/bottle/pickle and I still have to give a crap tonne of the stuff away...and even then lots ends up in the composter.
We have a hard time growing tropical items in a zone 4a or 4b
Come on! All of those millions in urban settings need to become self sufficient. Nothing like fields of kale growing in lower manhattan
Rooftop gardens are not a terrible idea. Except that I am a roof inspector, so yes the eff they are.0 -
Reasons I didn't farm when I lived there and chose instead to enjoy the steakhouses
Where NB or Manhatten? Cause I know we don't have very many steak houses...we grill it in our back yards...or as we say where I live "door yards"0 -
I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.0
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Reasons I didn't farm when I lived there and chose instead to enjoy the steakhouses
Where NB or Manhatten? Cause I know we don't have very many steak houses...we grill it in our back yards...or as we say where I live "door yards"
Manhattan. There are a ****load of steakhouses0 -
Hope your not claiming I said humans are herbivores. Although many are. Or that I claim that " this is the way we are supposed to eat" .
Also, that vegans claim that "its the way we are supposed to eat"Veganism was impossible before the advent of B12 supplemtd made from microbes.
So?
Just pointing it out. Veganism is impossible without chemicals produced and refined in a lab.
Again, it baffles me why this matters to you.
It was in reference to the claim that humans are herbivores.
There is a difference between "being" a herbivore and successfully living a vegan lifestyle, there are a lot of vegan humans but as of yet it is science and industry that accomodate this, not being born a herbivore....
which has been argued ad nauseam in this very thread.
Somewhere in our huge world population, there are probably some individuals who can eat a plant-based diet without supplemental vitamin B12. Hopefully, there's no natural calamity that helps reveal who those people are by natural selection. In the meantime, I love the technology that improves our lives, including vitamin B12 which is generally recommended to the general population over the age of 50.
I will stop right there because I was just trollin anyway :bigsmile:0 -
Reasons I didn't farm when I lived there and chose instead to enjoy the steakhouses
Where NB or Manhatten? Cause I know we don't have very many steak houses...we grill it in our back yards...or as we say where I live "door yards"
Manhattan. There are a ****load of steakhouses
Particularly in midtown. That's a veggie wasteland, unfortunately.0 -
lol @ vegans, just lol.0
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I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.0 -
Reasons I didn't farm when I lived there and chose instead to enjoy the steakhouses
Where NB or Manhatten? Cause I know we don't have very many steak houses...we grill it in our back yards...or as we say where I live "door yards"
Manhattan. There are a ****load of steakhouses
must be nice...our closest one is 1hour away and it's not that good hence all the bbq'ing in the "door yard"0 -
I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.
In for herb0 -
I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.
In for herb
Makes gardening less of a chore.
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I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.
You're speaking my language! I love growing basil and tomatoes for bruschetta, pizzas and pasta dishes. YUM!0 -
Reasons I didn't farm when I lived there and chose instead to enjoy the steakhouses
Where NB or Manhatten? Cause I know we don't have very many steak houses...we grill it in our back yards...or as we say where I live "door yards"
Manhattan. There are a ****load of steakhouses
Particularly in midtown. That's a veggie wasteland, unfortunately.
Too many carnivores . . .0 -
Reasons I didn't farm when I lived there and chose instead to enjoy the steakhouses
Where NB or Manhatten? Cause I know we don't have very many steak houses...we grill it in our back yards...or as we say where I live "door yards"
Manhattan. There are a ****load of steakhouses
Particularly in midtown. That's a veggie wasteland, unfortunately.
Too many carnivores . . .
Exactly! Gotta feed the tourists. I much prefer east village.0 -
I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.
You're speaking my language! I love growing basil and tomatoes for bruschetta, pizzas and pasta dishes. YUM!
That is pretty much what I had in mind! As well as caprese salads!
I kinda wanna look into making fresh mozzarella as well.0 -
Reasons I didn't farm when I lived there and chose instead to enjoy the steakhouses
Where NB or Manhatten? Cause I know we don't have very many steak houses...we grill it in our back yards...or as we say where I live "door yards"
Manhattan. There are a ****load of steakhouses
Particularly in midtown. That's a veggie wasteland, unfortunately.
Too many carnivores . . .
Exactly! Gotta feed the tourists. I much prefer east village.
meh, I left years ago.0 -
Awesome site thanks! It makes me agree with me more.For anyone truly interested in a vegan diet this is a useful page regarding B12 - it has references and everything.
http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/plant0 -
I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.
You're speaking my language! I love growing basil and tomatoes for bruschetta, pizzas and pasta dishes. YUM!
That is pretty much what I had in mind! As well as caprese salads!
I kinda wanna look into making fresh mozzarella as well.
Fresh is best. I make many homemade vegan cheeses, including an amazing mozzarella. I can't want for August tomatoes.0 -
What's wrong with humans eating lab-grown meat?
Well if there's no meat being farmed/produced by humans, what are all the dogs and cats (and other pets) going to eat?Did this Nobel prize winner also predict the end of people having pets?
Or did they predict that all cats and dogs would become vegans too?
What does that have to do with anything?
Or are you proposing turning them all out into the wild? Or perhaps just killing them all? (As well as all the domestic cows, sheep, goats, chickens, etc.)
Okay, now I get your point. We are nowhere near the point of growing cost-effective lab meat, but I am hopeful that will provide meat for the animal companions we have who need it in the future.0 -
I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.
You're speaking my language! I love growing basil and tomatoes for bruschetta, pizzas and pasta dishes. YUM!
That is pretty much what I had in mind! As well as caprese salads!
I kinda wanna look into making fresh mozzarella as well.
Fresh is best. I make many homemade vegan cheeses, including an amazing mozzarella. I can't want for August tomatoes.
What is the process for vegan mozzarella?0 -
Awesome site thanks! It makes me agree with me more.For anyone truly interested in a vegan diet this is a useful page regarding B12 - it has references and everything.
http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/plant
Looks like an excellent site. In short, vitamin B12 is too important to ignore, or rely on pseudo sources.0 -
I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.
You're speaking my language! I love growing basil and tomatoes for bruschetta, pizzas and pasta dishes. YUM!
That is pretty much what I had in mind! As well as caprese salads!
I kinda wanna look into making fresh mozzarella as well.
Fresh is best. I make many homemade vegan cheeses, including an amazing mozzarella. I can't want for August tomatoes.
What is the process for vegan mozzarella?
The recipe I use contains soymilk and refined coconut oil as the prime ingredients. I know it sounds horrible, but it fools active cheese-lovers, like my kids. The problem is, it has loads of calories and fat (like dairy cheese).0 -
I can just see it...
The year is 2214 and meat has been outlawed....we are all gardening, eating lab grown protien.
All the cows, chickens etc have been set free and we are being over run by herbivores, our gardens are no more because of the over abundance of cows and sheep eating our gardens......
then the lions and tigers and bears...OH MY
start to take over and get bigger and bigger...oh nooooooooooooes
They get so big they are now at the top of the food chain...
Humans become prey...we die out...meat eaters take over.
why all because of vegans....jeez.
*goes to have a bacon cheese burger to console herself*
That's a lovely work of fiction. This wouldn't happen overnight.
Haha yes ficton and poking fun...I mean come on...
...when the Deer population becomes too large there are issues for the agricultural community...think about it...I mean god forbid we kill something and not eat it that's just wasteful and disgusting...
We are on top of the food chain for a reason...
*thinks about the underground meat market that could ensure...$$$$$$$$$$$$ mama gonna get some new boots...*
Human population is a bit out of control as well. Any bright ideas? I would presume you are all for killing humans and not eating them. What a waste.0 -
What's wrong with humans eating lab-grown meat?
Well if there's no meat being farmed/produced by humans, what are all the dogs and cats (and other pets) going to eat?Did this Nobel prize winner also predict the end of people having pets?
Or did they predict that all cats and dogs would become vegans too?
What does that have to do with anything?
Or are you proposing turning them all out into the wild? Or perhaps just killing them all? (As well as all the domestic cows, sheep, goats, chickens, etc.)
Okay, now I get your point. We are nowhere near the point of growing cost-effective lab meat, but I am hopeful that will provide meat for the animal companions we have who need it in the future.
I'm actually hopeful it's a perfectly delicious alternative for humans, too. As I understand it, the process doesn't require slaughter, but may require that animals be kept and biopsied for starter cells every once in a while. I wouldn't personally be interested, but I hope it's really, REALLY good for those who enjoy meat.0 -
I like doing some backyard and deck gardening, but...blech...kale. Not all vegetarians like kale and yoga.
I think things like tomatoes, peppers, and maybe a type of squash are great things to grow.
And maybe some topsy turvy strawberries.
Oh and herbs.
You're speaking my language! I love growing basil and tomatoes for bruschetta, pizzas and pasta dishes. YUM!
That is pretty much what I had in mind! As well as caprese salads!
I kinda wanna look into making fresh mozzarella as well.
Fresh is best. I make many homemade vegan cheeses, including an amazing mozzarella. I can't want for August tomatoes.
What is the process for vegan mozzarella?
The recipe I use contains soymilk and refined coconut oil as the prime ingredients. I know it sounds horrible, but it fools active cheese-lovers, like my kids. The problem is, it has loads of calories and fat (like real cheese).
So you're forcing veganism on your kids? Nice.0 -
Because they don't use huge automated machines to work the land. Do you know how many man-hours it takes to cultivate, for example, one acre of corn by hand?
Why not?I would like to see home gardens become more popular.
*LIKE.
Home gardens don't produce many calories per day.0 -
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