Nobel Prize Winner picks Diet of the Future

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  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    lol - this OP keeps delivering the internetz . . .

    Three degrees in this case = a lot of wasted money.

    There are quite a few cheap "universities" out there "educating" the uneducable. This thread is a great example of why we need to bring back trade schools. Or why one does not believe French models on the Internet. Either or . . .

    My undergaduate university was the University of Pennsylvania. How many people on this board do you think could get into Penn?

    Somehow I highly doubt someone of your limited intelligence went to Penn. I have lectured there. You keep making the same basic logical mistake and are clearly not understanding it.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member


    Yes! Give the girl a cigar!

    You and others have used the terms herbivore, omnivore and carnivore and have objected to how I have used them, specifically that I referred to one of the most famous cardiologists in the United States who said that humans were herbivores/ He in fact gives a definition that is meaningful and useful. If you had watched the video, you would know what that was, but since you don't want to watch the video, I will tell you: Only herbivores can get atherosclerosis. Carnivores cannot. Most animals are capable of eating whatever is in the environment. I daresay a polar bear would very likely eat a tomato, if he could find one. There is an evolutionary advantage in being able to get nurishment from whatever food is in your environment, animal or vegetable. Therefore, every animal can eat both plants and animals. Even cats which are obligate carnivores can eat plant based food, but that cannot eat only plant based food. Therefore, the term omnivore is virtually meaningless, since all animals are in fact omnivores. The only real distinction comes between herbivores and carnivores. And the difference between them is that only herbivores can get atherosclerosis. Watch the video. It is well worth the time.

    So humans are in fact Omnivores - thanks for proving yourself wrong :laugh:

    Yeah, I don't get how this proves Humans "aren't" omnivores.
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    Hmm, a cheeseburger sounds really good right now.

    Maybe with some bacon.

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    mouth watering and hating you for putting picture up. lol...

    Simply beautifullll

    It's okay, I am comfortable with hate... and cheeseburgers.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    lol - this OP keeps delivering the internetz . . .

    Three degrees in this case = a lot of wasted money.

    There are quite a few cheap "universities" out there "educating" the uneducable. This thread is a great example of why we need to bring back trade schools. Or why one does not believe French models on the Internet. Either or . . .

    My undergaduate university was the University of Pennsylvania. How many people on this board do you think could get into Penn?

    I know lots of people who went to Penn, actually. One of the weird things about living in Pittsburgh, I guess. Either way I find people who went to CMU are generally more intelligent; Penn just seems to breed unfounded arrogance and delusions of grandeur.
  • Sreneesa
    Sreneesa Posts: 1,170 Member
    Maybe it's just because I have a scientific background, but I don't understand why the 'diet of the future' would be inappropriate for an omnivore, which is what humans are. I guess being a Nobel prize winner doesn't include critical thinking skills. :noway:

    He is saying that meat won't be available or considered a good food in the future. He didn't say plants were not appropriate for omnivores. And by the way, humans are herbivores:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUa814suU9A



    You've just lost all credibility. Educate yourself. And by that , I mean look for sources other than Youtube.
    You simply haven't had enough time to watch the half hour presentation by Dr Roberts, perhaps the top cardiologist in the USA. But of course, why should you. There is no requirement to actually know or understand a subject before sounding off on it.

    I tried fixing your quotes.

    Go take a look at your teeth in the mirror. Look at your canines. Compare them to the teeth of horses or cows. Read about the differences in the digestive system between us and herbivores.

    I almost feel like i am trying to convince a conspiracy theorist that their arguments are flawed. I completely understand and respect being vegan for ethical reasons. Claiming that humanity was meant to be vegan is a slap in evolution's face.

    In case you have never had a biology course, here is what the teeth of a meat eater look like:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=tiger+teeth&espv=210&es_sm=91&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=3eHaUreEMqbyyAGH7oHYBQ&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1296&bih=779#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=LZDzTcMYGHYEsM%3A;oPGjNHquF5dv_M;http%3A%2F%2Ffiles.myopera.com%2Fladiesman69%2Falbums%2F2191341%2FTiger%2520Teeth.jpg;http%3A%2F%2Fmy.opera.com%2Fladiesman69%2Falbums%2Fshowpic.dml%3Falbum%3D2191341%26picture%3D29818041;1024;768

    Those are carnivores. We are omnivores.
    In case YOU have never had a biology class before, here's what the teeth of herbivores look like:

    stock-photo-close-up-of-horse-teeth-84867928.jpg

    Notice the bluntness, relatively large contact surface made for grinding plants. Looks way different than human teeth to me.

    Watch the freaken video I posted and then I think you will feel more like the other end of the horse.

    Do you have other facts? I for one never go off of one person's findings and always look for multiple credible people saying the same thing about a subject. Never put all your eggs in one basket. :smile:
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    lol - this OP keeps delivering the internetz . . .

    Three degrees in this case = a lot of wasted money.

    There are quite a few cheap "universities" out there "educating" the uneducable. This thread is a great example of why we need to bring back trade schools. Or why one does not believe French models on the Internet. Either or . . .

    My undergaduate university was the University of Pennsylvania. How many people on this board do you think could get into Penn?

    I know lots of people who went to Penn, actually. One of the weird things about living in Pittsburgh, I guess. Either way I find people who went to CMU are generally more intelligent; Penn just seems to breed unfounded arrogance and delusions of grandeur.

    That doesn't sound like V.rex at all :laugh:
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    My great gram is in her 80's and drinks scotch, straight up, before bed every night, eats bacon and eggs cooked in bacon grease every morning, and then swims laps at the Y for an hour every morning. Except Sunday. She does see her doctor fairly often, but it's because 'That young Indian man has a very fine behind!'

    That's an actual quote, btw.

    Your great gram sounds like the cutest person to ever live. I actually squee'd a little bit while reading that.

    She'd probably swear at you for calling her cute, cute is for little girls. She, I have been assured, is/was/will always be 'A stone cold fox.'
  • Grizzly Bears are in the class carnivora. The link attached is to a US Fish And Game publication:

    http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/grizz_foods.pdf

    Now how about my $1,000

    Really? Then why are they in the Order Carnivora?

    http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/grizzly.htm


    First line from your link:
    The grizzly bear, like its cousin the black bear, is omnivorous, meaning it will eat plants, as well as insects and other animals.


    Did you even read it?

    Yup. The Genius I posted this for said that carnivores eat ONLY meat. Did you read it? Do you think it said that?

    It didn't say a damn thing about it, because grizzly's aren't carnivores.

    Really! Why don't you stick your head in one's mouth then?

    But they'd still eat you because they are OMNIVORES.

    Really? Then why are they in the order Carnivora?

    http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/grizzly.htm

    You obviously missed my post in response before to this. I'll copy and paste for you again.
    Ummm no. From the reading in the article in your post: "The grizzly bear, like its cousin the black bear, is omnivorous, meaning it will eat plants, as well as insects and other animals"

    They are in the order of Carnivora...order meaning the classification of the species based on certain shared physical characteristics. Carnivore is the description on the diet of an animal/species.

    :flowerforyou:

    And where does the word "carnivore" come from?

    Let me ask again: What is the precise definition of a Herbivore, an Omnivore, and a Carnivore? Your definition should make it clear that the Grizzly is not a carnivore as you claim, but you should also give some examples of animals that are carnivores, and explain why they are different from say the Grizzly.

    Good luck.

    Who ever claimed a grizzly was a carnivore?

    A jellyfish is a carnivore. It eats meat. A beat is an omnivore. it eats meat and plants. A cow is an herbivore. It eats plants.

    Is that defined enough for you or...?

    Also, side note
    Members of the mammalian order Carnivora are the descendants of a successful late Paleocene radiation of mammals whose primitive food habits were carnivorous. The name "Carnivora" is sometimes taken to mean that members of this group are all carnivorous or that all carnivorous mammals are members of this group. This is not so. Members of Carnivora have diverse food habits, although many are primarily carnivorous, and carnivory is widely distributed in mammals, being found in many other orders including bats, marsupial mammals, primates, and dolphins and whales.

    Very good so far. Consistant. Now do it for Herbivores and Omnivores.

    Ummm...but herbivores and omnivores isn't an order of taxonomy. So what/how are you trying to make comparisons?

    Yes! Give the girl a cigar!

    You and others have used the terms herbivore, omnivore and carnivore and have objected to how I have used them, specifically that I referred to one of the most famous cardiologists in the United States who said that humans were herbivores/ He in fact gives a definition that is meaningful and useful. If you had watched the video, you would know what that was, but since you don't want to watch the video, I will tell you: Only herbivores can get atherosclerosis. Carnivores cannot. Most animals are capable of eating whatever is in the environment. I daresay a polar bear would very likely eat a tomato, if he could find one. There is an evolutionary advantage in being able to get nurishment from whatever food is in your environment, animal or vegetable. Therefore, every animal can eat both plants and animals. Even cats which are obligate carnivores can eat plant based food, but that cannot eat only plant based food. Therefore, the term omnivore is virtually meaningless, since all animals are in fact omnivores. The only real distinction comes between herbivores and carnivores. And the difference between them is that only herbivores can get atherosclerosis. Watch the video. It is well worth the time.

    I get a cigar because I pointed out you keep using Carnivora wrong (in the sense that you are trying to compare terms of taxonomy with diet)? And that you still are using it wrong if you think this somehow proves that all species in the order of Carnivora (which is based on physical characteristics, not diet) aren't all carnivores - which we've explained several times over already?
    No you get a cigar because you have demonstrated that the word "omnivore" doesn't mean anything. And Carnivore was the source for for the word carnivore, although technically as you pointed out, not all members of that order are pure carnivores. However, using Dr Robert's definition, all members of the Carnivora order are indeed carnivores. See how easy and logical it is?
  • Mother_Superior
    Mother_Superior Posts: 1,624 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    lol - this OP keeps delivering the internetz . . .

    Three degrees in this case = a lot of wasted money.

    There are quite a few cheap "universities" out there "educating" the uneducable. This thread is a great example of why we need to bring back trade schools. Or why one does not believe French models on the Internet. Either or . . .

    My undergaduate university was the University of Pennsylvania. How many people on this board do you think could get into Penn?

    Somehow I highly doubt someone of your limited intelligence went to Penn. I have lectured there. You keep making the same basic logical mistake and are clearly not understanding it.

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  • Eowyn99
    Eowyn99 Posts: 26 Member
    How can you tell if someone is a vegan?

    Don't worry, they'll tell you.

    Over and over again.

    LOL!! So true!
  • Sunka1
    Sunka1 Posts: 217 Member
    You're entirely missing my point. Even if we don't eat the animals, we need them to grow the food crops, or the ground has to be fertilized and nutrients replaced with synthetic chemicals. It can't be done naturally. If we didn't have the farm animals, there wouldn't be natural fertilization in sufficient quantities to grow enough crops to feed everyone.
    [/quote]

    not so sure about this

    Compost, alfalfa meal, kelp are all good vegan sources.

    Besides it's not that difficult to feed and care for chickens in return for their manure. If you really feel you need the manure there is also humanure. Can't get more natural than that.
  • rduhlir
    rduhlir Posts: 3,550 Member
    Grizzly Bears are in the class carnivora. The link attached is to a US Fish And Game publication:

    http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/grizz_foods.pdf

    Now how about my $1,000

    Really? Then why are they in the Order Carnivora?

    http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/grizzly.htm


    First line from your link:
    The grizzly bear, like its cousin the black bear, is omnivorous, meaning it will eat plants, as well as insects and other animals.


    Did you even read it?

    Yup. The Genius I posted this for said that carnivores eat ONLY meat. Did you read it? Do you think it said that?

    It didn't say a damn thing about it, because grizzly's aren't carnivores.

    Really! Why don't you stick your head in one's mouth then?

    But they'd still eat you because they are OMNIVORES.

    Really? Then why are they in the order Carnivora?

    http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/grizzly.htm

    You obviously missed my post in response before to this. I'll copy and paste for you again.
    Ummm no. From the reading in the article in your post: "The grizzly bear, like its cousin the black bear, is omnivorous, meaning it will eat plants, as well as insects and other animals"

    They are in the order of Carnivora...order meaning the classification of the species based on certain shared physical characteristics. Carnivore is the description on the diet of an animal/species.

    :flowerforyou:

    And where does the word "carnivore" come from?

    Let me ask again: What is the precise definition of a Herbivore, an Omnivore, and a Carnivore? Your definition should make it clear that the Grizzly is not a carnivore as you claim, but you should also give some examples of animals that are carnivores, and explain why they are different from say the Grizzly.

    Good luck.

    Who ever claimed a grizzly was a carnivore?

    A jellyfish is a carnivore. It eats meat. A beat is an omnivore. it eats meat and plants. A cow is an herbivore. It eats plants.

    Is that defined enough for you or...?

    Also, side note
    Members of the mammalian order Carnivora are the descendants of a successful late Paleocene radiation of mammals whose primitive food habits were carnivorous. The name "Carnivora" is sometimes taken to mean that members of this group are all carnivorous or that all carnivorous mammals are members of this group. This is not so. Members of Carnivora have diverse food habits, although many are primarily carnivorous, and carnivory is widely distributed in mammals, being found in many other orders including bats, marsupial mammals, primates, and dolphins and whales.

    Very good so far. Consistant. Now do it for Herbivores and Omnivores.

    Ummm...but herbivores and omnivores isn't an order of taxonomy. So what/how are you trying to make comparisons?

    Yes! Give the girl a cigar!

    You and others have used the terms herbivore, omnivore and carnivore and have objected to how I have used them, specifically that I referred to one of the most famous cardiologists in the United States who said that humans were herbivores/ He in fact gives a definition that is meaningful and useful. If you had watched the video, you would know what that was, but since you don't want to watch the video, I will tell you: Only herbivores can get atherosclerosis. Carnivores cannot. Most animals are capable of eating whatever is in the environment. I daresay a polar bear would very likely eat a tomato, if he could find one. There is an evolutionary advantage in being able to get nurishment from whatever food is in your environment, animal or vegetable. Therefore, every animal can eat both plants and animals. Even cats which are obligate carnivores can eat plant based food, but that cannot eat only plant based food. Therefore, the term omnivore is virtually meaningless, since all animals are in fact omnivores. The only real distinction comes between herbivores and carnivores. And the difference between them is that only herbivores can get atherosclerosis. Watch the video. It is well worth the time.

    But you are trying to use a cardiologist to combat with archeology. Stating that we started out as herbivores, when that is false. There is archaeological evidence to prove that our species has been eating meat since 17,000 BC.
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    lol - this OP keeps delivering the internetz . . .

    Three degrees in this case = a lot of wasted money.

    There are quite a few cheap "universities" out there "educating" the uneducable. This thread is a great example of why we need to bring back trade schools. Or why one does not believe French models on the Internet. Either or . . .

    My undergaduate university was the University of Pennsylvania. How many people on this board do you think could get into Penn?

    I know lots of people who went to Penn, actually. One of the weird things about living in Pittsburgh, I guess. Either way I find people who went to CMU are generally more intelligent; Penn just seems to breed unfounded arrogance and delusions of grandeur.

    Apparently research at Penn involves watching YouTube.
  • Mother_Superior
    Mother_Superior Posts: 1,624 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    My great gram is in her 80's and drinks scotch, straight up, before bed every night, eats bacon and eggs cooked in bacon grease every morning, and then swims laps at the Y for an hour every morning. Except Sunday. She does see her doctor fairly often, but it's because 'That young Indian man has a very fine behind!'

    That's an actual quote, btw.

    Your great gram sounds like the cutest person to ever live. I actually squee'd a little bit while reading that.

    She'd probably swear at you for calling her cute, cute is for little girls. She, I have been assured, is/was/will always be 'A stone cold fox.'

    *squee*
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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Grizzly Bears are in the class carnivora. The link attached is to a US Fish And Game publication:

    http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/grizz_foods.pdf

    Now how about my $1,000

    Really? Then why are they in the Order Carnivora?

    http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/grizzly.htm


    First line from your link:
    The grizzly bear, like its cousin the black bear, is omnivorous, meaning it will eat plants, as well as insects and other animals.


    Did you even read it?

    Yup. The Genius I posted this for said that carnivores eat ONLY meat. Did you read it? Do you think it said that?

    It didn't say a damn thing about it, because grizzly's aren't carnivores.

    Really! Why don't you stick your head in one's mouth then?

    But they'd still eat you because they are OMNIVORES.

    Really? Then why are they in the order Carnivora?

    http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/grizzly.htm

    You obviously missed my post in response before to this. I'll copy and paste for you again.
    Ummm no. From the reading in the article in your post: "The grizzly bear, like its cousin the black bear, is omnivorous, meaning it will eat plants, as well as insects and other animals"

    They are in the order of Carnivora...order meaning the classification of the species based on certain shared physical characteristics. Carnivore is the description on the diet of an animal/species.

    :flowerforyou:

    And where does the word "carnivore" come from?

    Let me ask again: What is the precise definition of a Herbivore, an Omnivore, and a Carnivore? Your definition should make it clear that the Grizzly is not a carnivore as you claim, but you should also give some examples of animals that are carnivores, and explain why they are different from say the Grizzly.

    Good luck.

    Who ever claimed a grizzly was a carnivore?

    A jellyfish is a carnivore. It eats meat. A beat is an omnivore. it eats meat and plants. A cow is an herbivore. It eats plants.

    Is that defined enough for you or...?

    Also, side note
    Members of the mammalian order Carnivora are the descendants of a successful late Paleocene radiation of mammals whose primitive food habits were carnivorous. The name "Carnivora" is sometimes taken to mean that members of this group are all carnivorous or that all carnivorous mammals are members of this group. This is not so. Members of Carnivora have diverse food habits, although many are primarily carnivorous, and carnivory is widely distributed in mammals, being found in many other orders including bats, marsupial mammals, primates, and dolphins and whales.

    Very good so far. Consistant. Now do it for Herbivores and Omnivores.

    Ummm...but herbivores and omnivores isn't an order of taxonomy. So what/how are you trying to make comparisons?

    Yes! Give the girl a cigar!

    You and others have used the terms herbivore, omnivore and carnivore and have objected to how I have used them, specifically that I referred to one of the most famous cardiologists in the United States who said that humans were herbivores/ He in fact gives a definition that is meaningful and useful. If you had watched the video, you would know what that was, but since you don't want to watch the video, I will tell you: Only herbivores can get atherosclerosis. Carnivores cannot. Most animals are capable of eating whatever is in the environment. I daresay a polar bear would very likely eat a tomato, if he could find one. There is an evolutionary advantage in being able to get nurishment from whatever food is in your environment, animal or vegetable. Therefore, every animal can eat both plants and animals. Even cats which are obligate carnivores can eat plant based food, but that cannot eat only plant based food. Therefore, the term omnivore is virtually meaningless, since all animals are in fact omnivores. The only real distinction comes between herbivores and carnivores. And the difference between them is that only herbivores can get atherosclerosis. Watch the video. It is well worth the time.

    I get a cigar because I pointed out you keep using Carnivora wrong (in the sense that you are trying to compare terms of taxonomy with diet)? And that you still are using it wrong if you think this somehow proves that all species in the order of Carnivora (which is based on physical characteristics, not diet) aren't all carnivores - which we've explained several times over already?
    No you get a cigar because you have demonstrated that the word "omnivore" doesn't mean anything. And Carnivore was the source for for the word carnivore, although technically as you pointed out, not all members of that order are pure carnivores. However, using Dr Robert's definition, all members of the Carnivora order are indeed carnivores. See how easy and logical it is?

    Ummm....wow. That's not what I did at all and just because that Dr. Robert "says" all members are Carnivora are carnivores doesn't make it so. This is like people saying FACT even when it isn't.

    Sorry. You don't get to give out cigars.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Grizzly Bears are in the class carnivora. The link attached is to a US Fish And Game publication:

    http://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/grizz_foods.pdf

    Now how about my $1,000

    Really? Then why are they in the Order Carnivora?

    http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/grizzly.htm


    First line from your link:
    The grizzly bear, like its cousin the black bear, is omnivorous, meaning it will eat plants, as well as insects and other animals.


    Did you even read it?

    Yup. The Genius I posted this for said that carnivores eat ONLY meat. Did you read it? Do you think it said that?

    It didn't say a damn thing about it, because grizzly's aren't carnivores.

    Really! Why don't you stick your head in one's mouth then?

    But they'd still eat you because they are OMNIVORES.

    Really? Then why are they in the order Carnivora?

    http://www.nhptv.org/natureworks/grizzly.htm

    LOL! Educate yourself on Linnean classifications. http://www.linnean.org/Resources/LinneanSociety/Documents/Education/Secondary/Classification Poster.pdf

    Here is a nice website outlining the grouping of animals based on their diet: http://www.ehow.com/info_8592664_herbivore-omnivore-carnivore-animals.html
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    lol - this OP keeps delivering the internetz . . .

    Three degrees in this case = a lot of wasted money.

    There are quite a few cheap "universities" out there "educating" the uneducable. This thread is a great example of why we need to bring back trade schools. Or why one does not believe French models on the Internet. Either or . . .

    My undergaduate university was the University of Pennsylvania. How many people on this board do you think could get into Penn?

    Legacy, huh?
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    lol - this OP keeps delivering the internetz . . .

    Three degrees in this case = a lot of wasted money.

    There are quite a few cheap "universities" out there "educating" the uneducable. This thread is a great example of why we need to bring back trade schools. Or why one does not believe French models on the Internet. Either or . . .

    My undergaduate university was the University of Pennsylvania. How many people on this board do you think could get into Penn?

    I know lots of people who went to Penn, actually. One of the weird things about living in Pittsburgh, I guess. Either way I find people who went to CMU are generally more intelligent; Penn just seems to breed unfounded arrogance and delusions of grandeur.

    Apparently research at Penn involves watching YouTube.

    I believe it.
  • No problem. I knew you couldn't do it It was only a matter of when you would admit that you didn't know what you were talking about.

    This from the guy who clearly states on his profile that he doesn't know how to edit his profile. I mean, if we're attacking intellect now...
    OP is 70 years old, I am sure the nice lady at the Nursing Home didn't have time to show him everything about the computer. Oh, and recreation time is almost up.

    Yup, I'm 70, I have a black belt in Shaolin Kempo Karate, and I work out 4 times a week. I am vegan and never see a doctor, except for check ups. I have three university degrees. Anything else you would like to know?

    lol - this OP keeps delivering the internetz . . .

    Three degrees in this case = a lot of wasted money.

    There are quite a few cheap "universities" out there "educating" the uneducable. This thread is a great example of why we need to bring back trade schools. Or why one does not believe French models on the Internet. Either or . . .

    My undergaduate university was the University of Pennsylvania. How many people on this board do you think could get into Penn?

    Somehow I highly doubt someone of your limited intelligence went to Penn. I have lectured there. You keep making the same basic logical mistake and are clearly not understanding it.

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    Oh, I went to Penn alright. I am pretty sure you did not. What exactly did you lecture on at Penn? And when?
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member

    No you get a cigar because you have demonstrated that the word "omnivore" doesn't mean anything. And Carnivore was the source for for the word carnivore, although technically as you pointed out, not all members of that order are pure carnivores. However, using Dr Robert's definition, all members of the Carnivora order are indeed carnivores. See how easy and logical it is?

    I think I'll stick to the scientific definition - not one man's opinion. An opinion that is considered wrong by the scientific community.

    See how easy and logical that is?

    ps the italicised part - I think you spelt a word wrong there mr penn. :laugh: