Tattoo acceptance in the work place?
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I don't know of any religion, race or culture of whose members are likely to be interviewing at my estate agency in Surrey, just outside of London, where visible (with business dress) tattoos are forced upon them, or compulsory in some way.. Unless you would like to enlighten me.....
As bland as London may be, you can't see a situation where someone from a region where it is cultural would move there and may have the gall to interview?
If you can't imagine something so common and simple, it would be well nigh impossible for me to elucidate the situation for you any further. I would think a member of the empire would understand that there may be others present within the borders.0 -
I have tons of tattoos & piercings. I work for an artist, creativity is encouraged in my workplace. As a matter of fact, the last tattoo I got, my previous tattoo artist (whom I hadn't seen in many years!) was visiting here in California about 4 hours away from me. When I expressed my desire to take the day off and go get a tattoo my boss was very supportive and even gave me a bunch of art pieces to deliver to galleries in the area so that my trip & tattoo were paid for! :drinker:0
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I don't know of any religion, race or culture of whose members are likely to be interviewing at my estate agency in Surrey, just outside of London, where visible (with business dress) tattoos are forced upon them, or compulsory in some way.. Unless you would like to enlighten me.....
As bland as London may be, you can't see a situation where someone from a region where it is cultural would move there and may have the gall to interview?
If you can't imagine something so common and simple, it would be well nigh impossible for me to elucidate the situation for you any further. I would think a member of the empire would understand that there may be others present within the borders.
Hipsters? Seems they require protection of the Human Rights Act to just live and work judging from here.
Seriously, some jobs have conservative dress codes, others don't. Let each get on with it. Why is this even an argument?0 -
If someone applies for work and I see a tattoo or earring they don't get hired, period. My company and my rules. If you have tats located where normal dress has them covered thats fine.
Oh that reminds me of another point. I have decided not to hire artists and designers before due to a lack of tattoos. In those cases (I can think of three right now) I had a group of interviewed folks that were almost exactly equal in every way. So I'd go with the ones that had tattoos (or admitted to having them.)
Every time I did that, it ended up being an excellent decision.
so how exactly did you evaluate the performance of someone you DIDN'T hire?
Not relevant. They come, show their portfolio, and in this case, it was as good as others. One of those others had great tattoos, which in turn means a great dedication to an appreciation for art. I then turned that hiring into money.
Done. It's simple.0 -
I am the HR rep at a nursing home. Our dress code states: "Tattoos that are visible shall not be offensive and must keep within a professional image."
I just got my first tattoo last week, which I chose to put on my inner bicep so that if need be, it can be hidden, although it is just my kids' first initials and their birthdates.
Because of the clientele we worth with (elderly and those here for rehab after a surgery or injury), we do maintain that professional image and I am glad we do still allow tattoos to be shown (as a lot of our staff do have them, given most of those we hire are between ages 20 - 45), as long as they aren't offensive. I think that's fair.
Times are changing. Working in this field, I can say that as those who are of "this generation" and younger are more accepting of tattoos and as we are the ones moving into leadership roles, one could say it's a culture change.0 -
As hot as I think that is ^^^, she's not representing my company in the board room trying to close a deal with a multi-billion dollar bank client. It would be completely in-appropriate in my line of work and a great many business environments.
I'm not sure what so many people here don't seem to get about that..but then again, the ones that don't get it are obviously the ones inking themselves in places that can't be covered and then crying foul and "discrimination".0 -
Damn that's hot.0
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I think some places discriminate.
It's their company, they can call the shots. You may call it discrimnation. I call it the right to hire who they want and your right to work there if you so choose.
I work with expert witnesses that testify in court. One has a wrist tattoo that she covers with a large watch and an ankle tattoo but wears long pants when testifying, another has a tattoo between her shoulder blades but always wears suit jackets when she takes the stand so it never shows. One of my front office staff has a back tattoo that rarely shows as long as she is dressed professionally. I have no issues with a small nasal stud but have had to request that the chain that goes between the nose and ear be detached during business hours.
I had more of an issue with a former employee what would wear brightly colored see through shirts with black demi bras that tended to incredibly tight with significant spillage when attorneys showed up. She doesn't work here anymore but the two with the tattoos do.0 -
As hot as I think that is ^^^, she's not representing my company in the board room trying to close a deal with a multi-billion dollar bank client. It would be completely in-appropriate in my line of work and a great many business environments.
I'm not sure what so many people here don't seem to get about that..but then again, the ones that don't get it are obviously the ones inking themselves in places that can't be covered and then crying foul and "discrimination".
Put her in a pants suit with a scarf and let her grow her bangs out and you would never see her tattoos. She could be a huge asset to your company!
ETA: All my tattoos can easily be hidden. All are on my legs and back. It still is discrimination to not hire someone because they have tattoos.0 -
A Tattoo is a choice, so is Hiring or Not Hiring someone.
You can't make a choice and then force me to accept it, BUT you do have to live with the consequences of your choice.0 -
I have four tattoos now. 2 in immediately visible areas, 2 that can be seen but are very easy to cover up. I started working for the gov't three years ago, and my first manager had piercings all up his ears and has many visible tattoos. Now, we're part of a way more relaxed branch of the gov't, but still. xD I always thought that if I can't be myself, I wouldn't want to work there anyway.0
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I don't know of any religion, race or culture of whose members are likely to be interviewing at my estate agency in Surrey, just outside of London, where visible (with business dress) tattoos are forced upon them, or compulsory in some way.. Unless you would like to enlighten me.....
As bland as London may be, you can't see a situation where someone from a region where it is cultural would move there and may have the gall to interview?
If you can't imagine something so common and simple, it would be well nigh impossible for me to elucidate the situation for you any further. I would think a member of the empire would understand that there may be others present within the borders.
Read what I wrote. If I am missing a slice of the international community that is likely in any way to spend the first half of their life being forcibly tribally tattooed, and the latter half selling houses to people in London, then let me know.0 -
As hot as I think that is ^^^, she's not representing my company in the board room trying to close a deal with a multi-billion dollar bank client. It would be completely in-appropriate in my line of work and a great many business environments.
I'm not sure what so many people here don't seem to get about that..but then again, the ones that don't get it are obviously the ones inking themselves in places that can't be covered and then crying foul and "discrimination".
A person who is head-to-toe covered in tattoos like the woman above knows they are more than likely not going to get hired anywhere professional. Speaking on behalf of the people I know who are covered in tattoos, they are also more than likely not going to be looking to get hired anywhere professional.0 -
I don't know of any religion, race or culture of whose members are likely to be interviewing at my estate agency in Surrey, just outside of London, where visible (with business dress) tattoos are forced upon them, or compulsory in some way.. Unless you would like to enlighten me.....
As bland as London may be, you can't see a situation where someone from a region where it is cultural would move there and may have the gall to interview?
If you can't imagine something so common and simple, it would be well nigh impossible for me to elucidate the situation for you any further. I would think a member of the empire would understand that there may be others present within the borders.
Read what I wrote. If I am missing a slice of the international community that is likely in any way to spend the first half of their life being forcibly tribally tattooed, and the latter half selling houses to people in London, then let me know.
I can lead a goat to water, but I can't force it to become a mermaid. I already read what you wrote, shook my head at the derp involved, and chalked it up to, "because UK."0 -
The comments are all so interesting. I work with law enforcement and tattoos are huge - both male and female alike. Lots of full sleeves, wrists, very visible. I totally get that they may not be acceptable everywhere and would never take that personally - unless someone is judging my character - that's just small minded.
Yep. I understand an employer's right to set their dress code.
Judging character based on tattoos is just plain ignorant.
Not always. Sometimes it's pretty easy. For example see 1st and 3rd tattoo. Pretty easy to judge their character by their ink.
http://awfulink.com/0 -
If someone applies for work and I see a tattoo or earring they don't get hired, period. My company and my rules. If you have tats located where normal dress has them covered thats fine.
Oh that reminds me of another point. I have decided not to hire artists and designers before due to a lack of tattoos. In those cases (I can think of three right now) I had a group of interviewed folks that were almost exactly equal in every way. So I'd go with the ones that had tattoos (or admitted to having them.)
Every time I did that, it ended up being an excellent decision.
so how exactly did you evaluate the performance of someone you DIDN'T hire?0 -
If someone applies for work and I see a tattoo or earring they don't get hired, period. My company and my rules. If you have tats located where normal dress has them covered thats fine.
Oh that reminds me of another point. I have decided not to hire artists and designers before due to a lack of tattoos. In those cases (I can think of three right now) I had a group of interviewed folks that were almost exactly equal in every way. So I'd go with the ones that had tattoos (or admitted to having them.)
Every time I did that, it ended up being an excellent decision.
so how exactly did you evaluate the performance of someone you DIDN'T hire?
He didn't, he is just pulling facts from his *kitten* to supoprt his claim.0 -
He didn't, he is just pulling facts from his *kitten* to supoprt his claim.
ROFL. UMADBRO.0 -
Paramedic here and I have several that are visible when working. I think the main thing is whether any tatt could be considered offensive. The 3 most visible ones I have are a small frog prince (done in white ink, so you really have to look for that one.) A granny smith apple on my forearm, and snowflakes cascading down my right arm from my shoulder. No one has ever had a problem with them and many times they are commented on POSITIVELY by patient's and their families.0
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aT 57 i GOT MY FIRST (and so far only) tattoo with a friend together last year. It's on my right back shoulder blad and it is of butterflies as last year was my "transitional" year. I knew I was having weight loss surgery and it represents my end of the previous life into a beautiful new revitalizatoin... I love it, and my friend got a butterfly too.
We had known each other way back in high school and reconnected just two years ago.
It was special...........0 -
I have 7 of them ,and i work as a technician. Never in the 26 years that i've been in my company have i ever had an issue.........but now since we've downsized and moved, i'm the only one that has more than one tattoo.0
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I have one tattoo on my wrist and it goes all the way around. Sometimes I forget that I have it and that some people don't "approve" but I really don't care? I mean, if someone is going to discriminate against me for a tattoo that has a LOT of meaning to me, then I don't need them in my life nor do I need to work for/with them.
But really, I've had it for almost two years now and besides the "Omg! YOU got a tattoo? WHAT!?" shock factor when they first see it and remember how much of a wimp I am with pain lol no one really cares!
And I work for the Department of Social and Health Services (it's a government paid job) and no one cares!
I guess it just depends on where you live and the standards there.0 -
I work for the Social Security Administration and I get lots of compliments on my tattoos. They cannot impose a dress code on us and cannot discriminate against anyone for tattoos or piercings.
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I have lots, so does my boss, so it's all good :-)0
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The comments are all so interesting. I work with law enforcement and tattoos are huge - both male and female alike. Lots of full sleeves, wrists, very visible. I totally get that they may not be acceptable everywhere and would never take that personally - unless someone is judging my character - that's just small minded.
Yep. I understand an employer's right to set their dress code.
Judging character based on tattoos is just plain ignorant.
Not always. Sometimes it's pretty easy. For example see 1st and 3rd tattoo. Pretty easy to judge their character by their ink.
http://awfulink.com/
First off, you wouldn't see the first tattoo unless the person's pants were down.
You're being a bit dramatic and unrealistic with your choice of tattoos to show.
Judging someone's character based on their tattoos is ignorant. Plain and simple.
Yes, someone small-minded will find it easy to judge someone with a stupid tattoo on their *kitten* or face.
The smarter person knows that a tattoo doesn't define a person's character and knows that the tattoos on the link you provided are probably 1) photoshopped or 2) fake. Don't believe everything you see on the internet 0 -
I have most of my arms, back, chest, and one leg mostly covered, but fortunately my boss doesn't care if they show or not. I work for a software company as a trainer, but I train over the phone so clients never have to see me. Although I did a one-on-one session with a client last year and he didn't make any comments to me about covering them up. I did anyway, just because. Turns out the client wanted to talk about them and had some herself. We really bonded over that lol
I hid my tattoos when I interviewed, bc I'm not an idiot lol Then I slowly started to show them after I'd been here a few months and no one really cared. In fact, despite the fact that my boss is actually fairly conservative, he thinks it's awesome that I have a binary tattoo (given the company) and loves to tell people about it.0 -
I know I am in the minority here but I don't like tattoos and I would never get one. I would never hire anyone that had a bunch of them, one or two I could live with but if you had any on your face or hands I wouldn't hire or date you. :sad:0
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I work in an office environment at an university where jeans are accepted but not exactly encouraged.
I have two tats, one on my wrist and I have never once felt the need to cover it up or blame it for any issues that came my way.
Each supervisor is different, so if you're considering a tattoo in a visible area I would consult with the environment you're in.0 -
I worked for 6 surgeons in a private practice and they hired a girl with a neck tattoo, and a guy with a visible arm tattoo as back office medical assistants, and an admin assistant who has a knuckle tattoo and a wrist tattoo. Oh, also one of the front desk women has a visible tattoo.
I was working in San Francisco, and visible tattoos there are widely acceptable. Not sure they would be in other areas of the country as much...0 -
but it's not little of you to unilaterally say all tatoos are dirty? I keep mine covered at work but will let them show in public. both of them have a lot of meaning to me, and I thought long and hard before getting either of them. It's pretty insulting to hear someone call them "dirty".Tattoo's IMO look dirty and a complete turn off.
I was in a fish and chips place where the cooks serve you and this guy had some gross tattoo on the top of his hand. Needless to say, I haven't gone back there.
If you are working with the public - cover them up not everyone shares your views thinking they are art or attractive.
You must get to spend a lot of time indoors and alone based on your logic.
Because I don't share your view? How little of you....
I agree with mccindy. All three of my tattoos have a huge significance and for you to call them "dirty" is rude and disrespectful. You don't know the meaning behind a person's tattoo(s). To not like tattoos is one thing, but to call them dirty is another.
what's sad is it's art- it doesn't HAVE to mean something. It is absolutely OKAY for it to mean nothing.
I am a "mean something" person. But I don't begrudge anyone with good art that is just art.
It's rude to just assume someone is dirty because they like art. Either way it's rude. you don't have to like it- but you don't have to think it's dirty- dirty implies bad. and they are not inherently bad.
I'm (although I never thought I would say this) grateful I know work in a white collar but highly PC office.. meaning- once you are in- you are in- and as long as you aren't extremely over the top- you're fine.
You may not be discriminated against- but they may show prejudice... but as long as you're *kitten* is mostly line- they can't really do anything.0
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