Paleo?
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Good tip! I'll try that.
ETA: Most paleo folks *do* have some creative, delicious ways to cook meat.
LOL yeah- they do some up with some creative ways to cook that stuff- I don't' always google for paleo recipes- but it's a nice way to get different stuff. I do like some sub's they make- I'd have never found spaghetti squash with out them!!! And I love that chit!!!
jumping back on the train-
yes- pleasure- nutrient- I'm so on board with this.
Jesus would have eaten oreo's too- I know. We are homie's like that.
also peeps- it's Jesus's food of the month!0 -
I would say a big pro of eating "paleo" is it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons', etc etc over time. Legumes are avoided because of phytic acid, I believe? and dairy because lactose and casein are common irritants (although a lot of people can handle dairy just fine). But mostly I think the avoidance of grains and sugar is what makes it a healthy choice.0
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Hi, Nutrition student at UC Davis, currently taking 4 different nutrition classes taught by doctors who specialize in fields like 'fad diets'. United States medical and nutrition journals have shown the paleo diet to be a success in individual's weight loss goals, however it is not sustainable and should be monitored very carefully. It's also important to understand how the paleo diet works physiologically. If you are consuming (in general, varies by person due to genetic variation) less than 130g of carbohydrates a day (carbohydrates are fruits, vegetables, grains and legumes) in 4-7 days your body will become ketonic and you may experience dizziness, loss of appetite and weight loss. So what is ketonic and why are you losing weight? - Carbohydrates are broken down into thousands of glucose units and stored at 'glycogen' in your muscles. Glycogen is a huge energy source for your body and is used during physical activity. Glycogen is also stored with water. So when you go on a paleo diet your body starts to become depleted of its glycogen stores and because glycogen is stored with water you also lose lots of water weight - which can be anywhere from 5-10lbs of water. Your brain NEEDS glucose for energy, glucose is the ONLY energy that the brain uses and the recommended 130g of carbohydrates a day is based off of what your brain uses per day (again varies person to person). So if this diet is prolonged your body will start to become ketonic - which means that because you have no stores of glycogen, and limited blood glucose available as fuel, your body will start to break down proteins - you will feel lethargic, have bad breath, offensive flatulence, ect. Again these results MAY vary from person to person, however the research is solid on how you body deals with under consuming carbohydrates. Which is why any nutritionist, dietician would not recommend a diet, but rather a mixed diet. If you are however a professional athlete or competitor, doing the paleo or the now popular high fat diet may be advised to you by your athletic coaches.
Not all brain function requires glucose. Some brain function absolutely requires glucose, but it's only something like 25%. The rest is more than happy to use ketones as its fuel source.
But why bother?
Some people have a harder time with carbs, so for them, it's easier to eat a high fat low carb diet. That's especially true for people with issues like insulin resistance.0 -
it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...0 -
It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Wines allowed on primal.
I have a feeling given enough time so will bread...
What sort of bread? Maybe when they discover it's amazing nutritional properties they will let it in! Lol
It's most valuable nutrient is pleasure... and make no mistake, pleasure is a nutrient.
Sorry but it doesn't ring my bell, Now a big bowl of chilli, that the most nutrient rich food for me (that's if pleasure is the nutrient of choice). Lol0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Wines allowed on primal.
I have a feeling given enough time so will bread...
What sort of bread? Maybe when they discover it's amazing nutritional properties they will let it in! Lol
It's most valuable nutrient is pleasure... and make no mistake, pleasure is a nutrient.
Sorry but it doesn't ring my bell, Now a big bowl of chilli, that the most nutrient rich food for me (that's if pleasure is the nutrient of choice). Lol
Yep... as long as there are beans in there and I have a nice piece of italien bread to sop up all the juice
How about smoked salmon, goat cheese on two slices of sprouted whole wheat bread.... oh yeah!0 -
It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...
It really depends on the person. For some people, there certainly are certain foods that exacerbate the inflammation. So, once they eliminate them from their diet, they gain considerable relief.0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Wines allowed on primal.
I have a feeling given enough time so will bread...
What sort of bread? Maybe when they discover it's amazing nutritional properties they will let it in! Lol
It's most valuable nutrient is pleasure... and make no mistake, pleasure is a nutrient.
Sorry but it doesn't ring my bell, Now a big bowl of chilli, that the most nutrient rich food for me (that's if pleasure is the nutrient of choice). Lol
Yep... as long as there are beans in there and I have a nice piece of italien bread to sop up all the juice
How about smoked salmon, goat cheese on two slices of sprouted whole wheat bread.... oh yeah!
We'll call it a "Jesus Sandwich"0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Yes, this.
And then He said not live on *just* bread alone.
I think the word of God is allowed on all diets
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It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...
It really depends on the person. For some people, there certainly are certain foods that exacerbate the inflammation. So, once they eliminate them from their diet, they gain considerable relief.
True but to say that inflammation IS THE CAUSE?0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Yes, this.
And then He said not live on *just* bread alone.
I think the world of God is allowed on all diets
very generous of him!!!
what does that fit in for macros? fat?0 -
It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...
It really depends on the person. For some people, there certainly are certain foods that exacerbate the inflammation. So, once they eliminate them from their diet, they gain considerable relief.
True but to say that inflammation IS THE CAUSE?
I'm pretty sure the person is confused on that. Inflammation is the result of auto-immune disease, and the extent varies and can be affected by many factors. But, the gist of her idea is pretty much the same -- that eliminating/reducing those triggers will eliminate/reduce the inflammation.0 -
It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...
It really depends on the person. For some people, there certainly are certain foods that exacerbate the inflammation. So, once they eliminate them from their diet, they gain considerable relief.
True but to say that inflammation IS THE CAUSE?
I'm pretty sure the person is confused on that.
Yes, clearly...0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Yes, this.
And then He said not live on *just* bread alone.
I think the world of God is allowed on all diets
very generous of him!!!
what does that fit in for macros? fat?
We keep forgetting that Alcohol is a macro.0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Yes, this.
And then He said not live on *just* bread alone.
I think the world of God is allowed on all diets
very generous of him!!!
what does that fit in for macros? fat?
We keep forgetting that Alcohol is a macro.
word of god = alcohol = macro
I could make that mental leap- except I actually like alcohol0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Yes, this.
And then He said not live on *just* bread alone.
I think the world of God is allowed on all diets
very generous of him!!!
what does that fit in for macros? fat?
We keep forgetting that Alcohol is a macro.
word of god = alcohol = macro
I could make that mental leap- except I actually like alcohol
Maybe you need to drink some more before it comes together for you?0 -
We keep forgetting that Alcohol is a macro.
word of god = alcohol = macro
I could make that mental leap- except I actually like alcohol
Maybe you need to drink some more before it comes together for you?
that explains the mass thing- I'll get right on that tonight- or maybe tomorrow- or both- who knows! It's april- apparently I need God in my life.0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Wines allowed on primal.
I have a feeling given enough time so will bread...
What sort of bread? Maybe when they discover it's amazing nutritional properties they will let it in! Lol
It's most valuable nutrient is pleasure... and make no mistake, pleasure is a nutrient.
Sorry but it doesn't ring my bell, Now a big bowl of chilli, that the most nutrient rich food for me (that's if pleasure is the nutrient of choice). Lol
Yep... as long as there are beans in there and I have a nice piece of italien bread to sop up all the juice
How about smoked salmon, goat cheese on two slices of sprouted whole wheat bread.... oh yeah!
True chili does not have beans in it. :bigsmile:0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Wines allowed on primal.
I have a feeling given enough time so will bread...
What sort of bread? Maybe when they discover it's amazing nutritional properties they will let it in! Lol
It's most valuable nutrient is pleasure... and make no mistake, pleasure is a nutrient.
Sorry but it doesn't ring my bell, Now a big bowl of chilli, that the most nutrient rich food for me (that's if pleasure is the nutrient of choice). Lol
Yep... as long as there are beans in there and I have a nice piece of italien bread to sop up all the juice
How about smoked salmon, goat cheese on two slices of sprouted whole wheat bread.... oh yeah!
True chili does not have beans in it. :bigsmile:
But good chili does...0 -
We keep forgetting that Alcohol is a macro.
word of god = alcohol = macro
I could make that mental leap- except I actually like alcohol
Maybe you need to drink some more before it comes together for you?
that explains the mass thing- I'll get right on that tonight- or maybe tomorrow- or both- who knows! It's april- apparently I need God in my life.
Easter: Chocolate, eggs, wine and God0 -
I had Paleo Chili for lunch and it was AMAZING. But if you like beans, eat 'em in your chili!0
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We keep forgetting that Alcohol is a macro.
word of god = alcohol = macro
I could make that mental leap- except I actually like alcohol
Maybe you need to drink some more before it comes together for you?
that explains the mass thing- I'll get right on that tonight- or maybe tomorrow- or both- who knows! It's april- apparently I need God in my life.
Easter: Chocolate, eggs, wine and God
god is good 0 -
I think this should definitely be a personal choice regardless of the label. I have been mostly "Paleo" for about two months. For the past two years, I have dealt with major digestive issues and after major food journaling and miserable belly issues, decided the more grains (especially wheat) I consumed, the more miserable I felt. I don't follow it strictly, and I definitely don't call myself a cavewoman. I still eat dairy in moderation (it doesn't like me that well either) and when I get caught in a situation where Paleo type food isn't an option (this doesn't happen often since most anywhere will have a salad, I will have whatever I think is the best choice for me at that moment--not a junkie eater so it's usually the salad...:P
I am a distance runner and have actually discovered I feel better in general and recover faster. I don't feel the need to carb-load with anything, and, surprisingly, manage longer runs better then ever. I no longer have the sluggishness throughout the day (I'm a teacher) and never have the blood sugar crashes (this was a persistent issue for me) that even "whole" grains would give me. Eating minimally processed foods is the key to any way of eating. I would really suggest you keep a food journal and do what makes you feel the best each day 0 -
and drank wine...Hmm... I think Jesus did paleo, and he was *ripped*.
No. He ate bread.
Wines allowed on primal.
I have a feeling given enough time so will bread...
What sort of bread? Maybe when they discover it's amazing nutritional properties they will let it in! Lol
It's most valuable nutrient is pleasure... and make no mistake, pleasure is a nutrient.
Sorry but it doesn't ring my bell, Now a big bowl of chilli, that the most nutrient rich food for me (that's if pleasure is the nutrient of choice). Lol
Yep... as long as there are beans in there and I have a nice piece of italien bread to sop up all the juice
How about smoked salmon, goat cheese on two slices of sprouted whole wheat bread.... oh yeah!
True chili does not have beans in it. :bigsmile:
But good chili does...
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I tried it to get healthy and not be sick anymore. Then I got sick over and over again so I stopped.
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Yes, very true and those people would be better off. I suspect a very, very small percentage of people will actually have a sensitivity with most nightshades considering the active ingredient solanine is in the leaves and stems and a person would also need to have a sensitivity to it............most people don't, so it's basically just dogma for the masses and makes for a good story........much like legumes........who eats them raw........people need to believe I guess.
It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...
It really depends on the person. For some people, there certainly are certain foods that exacerbate the inflammation. So, once they eliminate them from their diet, they gain considerable relief.0 -
Yes, very true and those people would be better off. I suspect a very, very small percentage of people will actually have a sensitivity with most nightshades considering the active ingredient solanine is in the leaves and stems and a person would also need to have a sensitivity to it............most people don't, so it's basically just dogma for the masses and makes for a good story........much like legumes........who eats them raw........people need to believe I guess.
It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...
It really depends on the person. For some people, there certainly are certain foods that exacerbate the inflammation. So, once they eliminate them from their diet, they gain considerable relief.
I believe some people like the structure. Rather then fending for themselves, they prefer a list of no go foods. I have to admit when I did paleo for a few years that appealed to me very much. Just got too restrictive for me in the long run...0 -
Yeah, structure is a good thing. Personally I think the paleo diet is extremely healthy from the research I've done and like you, I would find it far too restrictive.
Yes, very true and those people would be better off. I suspect a very, very small percentage of people will actually have a sensitivity with most nightshades considering the active ingredient solanine is in the leaves and stems and a person would also need to have a sensitivity to it............most people don't, so it's basically just dogma for the masses and makes for a good story........much like legumes........who eats them raw........people need to believe I guess.
It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...
It really depends on the person. For some people, there certainly are certain foods that exacerbate the inflammation. So, once they eliminate them from their diet, they gain considerable relief.
I believe some people like the structure. Rather then fending for themselves, they prefer a list of no go foods. I have to admit when I did paleo for a few years that appealed to me very much. Just got too restrictive for me in the long run...0 -
Yes, very true and those people would be better off. I suspect a very, very small percentage of people will actually have a sensitivity with most nightshades considering the active ingredient solanine is in the leaves and stems and a person would also need to have a sensitivity to it............most people don't, so it's basically just dogma for the masses and makes for a good story........much like legumes........who eats them raw........people need to believe I guess.
It's chronic inflammation that's problematic and really doesn't have much to do with eating moderate amounts of what some people refer to as inflammatory foods......it cuts out inflammatory foods (grains, refined sugar) which is beneficial because inflammation in our bodies is the cause of autoimmune diseases, cancer, alzheimer's, parkinsons
That is a bold statement...
It really depends on the person. For some people, there certainly are certain foods that exacerbate the inflammation. So, once they eliminate them from their diet, they gain considerable relief.
I can see it with nightshades, and even perhaps legumes. For me that's not a big deal because I just don't care for most legumes anyway and don't eat much nightshades either. The one exception is probably tomatoes, which I do eat from time to time.
But, a lot of people do seem to notice issues with grains (often gluten and wheat in particular) and dairy (likely casein or lactose). And when they take those out of their diet, they're amazed by how much better they feel. I personally was able to add dairy back in as I had no issues with it, but that's not the case for everyone.0
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