Hugh Jackman Deadlifts 400 pounds

JoRocka

And in other news:
I would like to be one of the people who trains for 2 years and pull 400 plus- sign me up for that list please.

Well, you're a chick... not sure that poster's comment applies.

then perhaps the poster shouldn't make blanket statements about ALL lifters- esp consider there are a fair number of women who lift here.

regardless- I'll be happy to hit 3 plates- I've been chasing it all summer. 305 now. I'll get 3 plates then the goal will be 3 plates plus- all the way up to 4 plates. It can be done. I know it.

But it can definitely be true for males. I didn't start lifting until last week of July 2013. By April 2014, 9-months later, I could do 410 for 1-rep max.

As for the straps argument... when I started deadlifting, I had a problem with grip strength. My ability to gain on my deadlift outpaced my hand strength gains. But I really didn't want to use a strap, because in my opinion, that's using a crutch, so I just kept using my hands, doing as much as I could during my workouts. Eventually my grip strength caught up and now it's no longer an issue.

If straps don't bother you, by all means, use them. But for me personally, I consider every muscle in the lift as being necessary to the lift. Grip strength is a part of the deadlift, and for me, I want all recruited muscles to gain and be at their strongest. Grip strength is a huge benefit to doing a deadlift, IMO. I am not sure why anyone would want to circumvent that gain.

It's cool to have strong hands.

shower time just isn't the same with delicate weak hands!

one of my favorite things about this debate is that people seem to believe that as soon as you touch a strap your grip strength stops improving from now till the end of time. when i was coming up, there were no powerlifters in my gym so no one was ashamed to use straps. i used straps on DL, bent rows, and pull ups. never did grip work a day in my life. and guess what, my grip improved just fine. even better, i got stronger and bigger faster because i didn't let my hands hold me back from what was actually important to me.

people act like once you buy a pair of straps that you put them on the second you walk in the gym and start using them on your warm-up sets or something.

I waffle back and forth- I've felt like they were cheating for a long time (Same with a belt) but I kind of got over myself with more help from professionals and having a better frame about what I was trying accomplish long term.

Now I belt up for my last heavy sets- and if I'm losing grip- I pull out the straps. No biggie. I prefer to NOT use them and like being able to do the work without it- but I'm not trying to cut my lift short because the weakest part of the lift is quitting on me.

MityMax96

apparently thats how closely the two are intertwinded in MFP culture.

What's that got to do with anything????

Can't it just be my own personal view?

No_Finish_Line

I think you're assuming that everyone cares about grip strength though. If you're training for aesthetics, it's questionable whether you even want to do deadlifts to begin with, much less a bunch of grip work just to improve your ability to do strapless deadlifts. If you're training for power lifting or strong man though, of course grip strength is very important.

:huh: :huh: :noway: :noway:

Srs dude???

Come on man....
A lot of times you post really good info.....but then do something like that....

I'm assuming you're referring to the comment about deadlifts rather than grip strength, and I thought about not saying that when I originally made that post since anything that questions deadlifts even in the slightest is likely to catch flak, haha. I'm not saying don't do them, not at all, especially when starting out and attempting to build strength. But you can make a rational argument about why they don't necessarily need to be included in a bodybuilding program and many successful bodybuilders (even at the top level) do not incorporate deadlifts as part of their typical routine.

I am saying to the fact that you are saying that since someone is lifting for aesthetics, then heavy lifting is not needed....
or vice-versa...
However you wish to view it.

I think it is a stupid comment.

While you may be referring to my pic, as me being aesthetic.....fine whatever.
I still lift heavy, so my aesthetic is a by-product of how I lift....

While my weight and strength are not as high as I would like them to be, I am not ashamed of what I can do either.....

y'all know i come here to start fires as much as anybody, but i don't think that was his meaning at all. i think he was just saying that for aesthetics a person doesn't have to lift nearly as heavy and can stick with a volume based hypertrophy program. i don't think he was calling you weak or anything of the sort.

please point out where the man says anything about heavy lifting, expecially NOT doing it

No_Finish_Line

apparently thats how closely the two are intertwinded in MFP culture.

What's that got to do with anything????

Can't it just be my own personal view?

it could be but we all know better lol

MityMax96

apparently thats how closely the two are intertwinded in MFP culture.

What's that got to do with anything????

Can't it just be my own personal view?

it could be but we all know better lol

Right of course we do....
Cause I just started lifting when I joined MFP last year.....

DavPul

apparently thats how closely the two are intertwinded in MFP culture.

What's that got to do with anything????

Can't it just be my own personal view?

it could be but we all know better lol

Right of course we do....
Cause I just started lifting when I joined MFP last year.....

TWINSIES!

DavPul

I think you're assuming that everyone cares about grip strength though. If you're training for aesthetics, it's questionable whether you even want to do deadlifts to begin with, much less a bunch of grip work just to improve your ability to do strapless deadlifts. If you're training for power lifting or strong man though, of course grip strength is very important.

:huh: :huh: :noway: :noway:

Srs dude???

Come on man....
A lot of times you post really good info.....but then do something like that....

I'm assuming you're referring to the comment about deadlifts rather than grip strength, and I thought about not saying that when I originally made that post since anything that questions deadlifts even in the slightest is likely to catch flak, haha. I'm not saying don't do them, not at all, especially when starting out and attempting to build strength. But you can make a rational argument about why they don't necessarily need to be included in a bodybuilding program and many successful bodybuilders (even at the top level) do not incorporate deadlifts as part of their typical routine.

I am saying to the fact that you are saying that since someone is lifting for aesthetics, then heavy lifting is not needed....
or vice-versa...
However you wish to view it.

I think it is a stupid comment.

While you may be referring to my pic, as me being aesthetic.....fine whatever.
I still lift heavy, so my aesthetic is a by-product of how I lift....

While my weight and strength are not as high as I would like them to be, I am not ashamed of what I can do either.....

y'all know i come here to start fires as much as anybody, but i don't think that was his meaning at all. i think he was just saying that for aesthetics a person doesn't have to lift nearly as heavy and can stick with a volume based hypertrophy program. i don't think he was calling you weak or anything of the sort.

please point out where the man says anything about heavy lifting, expecially NOT doing it

wha?

No_Finish_Line

one of my favorite things about this debate is that people seem to believe that as soon as you touch a strap your grip strength stops improving from now till the end of time. when i was coming up, there were no powerlifters in my gym so no one was ashamed to use straps. i used straps on DL, bent rows, and pull ups. never did grip work a day in my life. and guess what, my grip improved just fine. even better, i got stronger and bigger faster because i didn't let my hands hold me back from what was actually important to me.

people act like once you buy a pair of straps that you put them on the second you walk in the gym and start using them on your warm-up sets or something.

this is somewhat unrelated, and might draw its own heat, but i used to do hanging leg raises gripping the bar. always refused to get the arm slings because i wanted the grip work out. when i finally gave in and bought the straps i had quite a leap forward in progress. didn't realize that grip strength was even holding me back

Sarauk2sf

I will, when you tell me in the real world where you need visible abs!

Hmmm.....:huh: :huh:

Is that a body shame??

I choose to have abs, because I want too....

Now I am upping my calories, so they will most likely go away.....

But for me and my abs....maybe I just like to excel somewhere in my life.....I see plenty of ppl walking around without shirts and no abs.....so that seems easy enough.

huh? Can you reread in context please.

No_Finish_Line

I think you're assuming that everyone cares about grip strength though. If you're training for aesthetics, it's questionable whether you even want to do deadlifts to begin with, much less a bunch of grip work just to improve your ability to do strapless deadlifts. If you're training for power lifting or strong man though, of course grip strength is very important.

:huh: :huh: :noway: :noway:

Srs dude???

Come on man....
A lot of times you post really good info.....but then do something like that....

I'm assuming you're referring to the comment about deadlifts rather than grip strength, and I thought about not saying that when I originally made that post since anything that questions deadlifts even in the slightest is likely to catch flak, haha. I'm not saying don't do them, not at all, especially when starting out and attempting to build strength. But you can make a rational argument about why they don't necessarily need to be included in a bodybuilding program and many successful bodybuilders (even at the top level) do not incorporate deadlifts as part of their typical routine.

I am saying to the fact that you are saying that since someone is lifting for aesthetics, then heavy lifting is not needed....
or vice-versa...
However you wish to view it.

I think it is a stupid comment.

While you may be referring to my pic, as me being aesthetic.....fine whatever.
I still lift heavy, so my aesthetic is a by-product of how I lift....

While my weight and strength are not as high as I would like them to be, I am not ashamed of what I can do either.....

y'all know i come here to start fires as much as anybody, but i don't think that was his meaning at all. i think he was just saying that for aesthetics a person doesn't have to lift nearly as heavy and can stick with a volume based hypertrophy program. i don't think he was calling you weak or anything of the sort.

please point out where the man says anything about heavy lifting, expecially NOT doing it

wha?

perhaps i'm missing an inside joke or something, but i never heard the man say anything about weight.

he said that deadlifts might not be necessary. deadlifts is not all there is to 'heavy lifting', nor does it in and of itself constitute heavy lifting. if you just deadlift the bar, it probably doesn't count as heavy lifting.

MityMax96

I will, when you tell me in the real world where you need visible abs!

Hmmm.....:huh: :huh:

Is that a body shame??

I choose to have abs, because I want too....

Now I am upping my calories, so they will most likely go away.....

But for me and my abs....maybe I just like to excel somewhere in my life.....I see plenty of ppl walking around without shirts and no abs.....so that seems easy enough.

huh? Can you reread in context please.

maybe.

Sarauk2sf

I will, when you tell me in the real world where you need visible abs!

Hmmm.....:huh: :huh:

Is that a body shame??

I choose to have abs, because I want too....

Now I am upping my calories, so they will most likely go away.....

But for me and my abs....maybe I just like to excel somewhere in my life.....I see plenty of ppl walking around without shirts and no abs.....so that seems easy enough.

huh? Can you reread in context please.

maybe.

Please do, as you accusing me of body shaming based on my comment that there is no real life reason to need visible abs, but people want them is rather baffling.

There was no underlying nefarious reason for my response to DavPul, especially that of body shaming, which for anyone who knows me or has seen my posts, I would also imagine would be baffled.

MityMax96

I will, when you tell me in the real world where you need visible abs!

Hmmm.....:huh: :huh:

Is that a body shame??

I choose to have abs, because I want too....

Now I am upping my calories, so they will most likely go away.....

But for me and my abs....maybe I just like to excel somewhere in my life.....I see plenty of ppl walking around without shirts and no abs.....so that seems easy enough.

huh? Can you reread in context please.

maybe.

Please do, as you accusing me of body shaming based on my comment that there is no real life reason to need visible abs, but people want them is rather baffling.

There was no underlying nefarious reason for my response to DavPul, especially that of body shaming, which for anyone who knows me or has seen my posts, I would also imagine would be baffled.

Then I apologize.
I misread your post....

I have just had another user on here make a comment regarding me and my shirtless pics.....

So again, I misread you and I apologize.

mustgetmuscles1

Someone please tell me when I'm going to have the opportunity to use my 500 pound grip strength in the real world. What world are you folks living in where you need to grip 200+ pounds? Is it a Flintstones couch?

Why did I train with straps? WHY???

Sarauk2sf

I will, when you tell me in the real world where you need visible abs!

Hmmm.....:huh: :huh:

Is that a body shame??

I choose to have abs, because I want too....

Now I am upping my calories, so they will most likely go away.....

But for me and my abs....maybe I just like to excel somewhere in my life.....I see plenty of ppl walking around without shirts and no abs.....so that seems easy enough.

huh? Can you reread in context please.

maybe.

Please do, as you accusing me of body shaming based on my comment that there is no real life reason to need visible abs, but people want them is rather baffling.

There was no underlying nefarious reason for my response to DavPul, especially that of body shaming, which for anyone who knows me or has seen my posts, I would also imagine would be baffled.

Then I apologize.
I misread your post....

I have just had another user on here make a comment regarding my and shirtless pics.....

So again, I misread you and I apologize.

No worries and thank you for the apology.

And...I have no issue with your shirtless pic fwiw or with people using straps for that matter.

MityMax96

No worries and thank you for the apology.

And...I have no issue with your shirtless pic fwiw or with people using straps for that matter.

Rgr that.:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:

dbmata

See, someone gets it!

That's what happens when you use petzl!

yopeeps025

I will, when you tell me in the real world where you need visible abs!

Hmmm.....:huh: :huh:

Is that a body shame??

I choose to have abs, because I want too....

Now I am upping my calories, so they will most likely go away.....

But for me and my abs....maybe I just like to excel somewhere in my life.....I see plenty of ppl walking around without shirts and no abs.....so that seems easy enough.

huh? Can you reread in context please.

maybe.

Please do, as you accusing me of body shaming based on my comment that there is no real life reason to need visible abs, but people want them is rather baffling.

There was no underlying nefarious reason for my response to DavPul, especially that of body shaming, which for anyone who knows me or has seen my posts, I would also imagine would be baffled.

All you meant is what is the point of having washboard visible abs. Your right there is no need it is a want.

MityMax96

Someone please tell me when I'm going to have the opportunity to use my 500 pound grip strength in the real world. What world are you folks living in where you need to grip 200+ pounds? Is it a Flintstones couch?

Why did I train with straps? WHY???

in all fairness though....
It is the gloves fault....and hers for wearing them....
Not him using straps.....
You can clearly see he still had the glove firmly gripped.

Just sayin.

DavPul

IT WAS ALL STALLONE'S FAULT

brb, gonna hold a grudge against my fellow rescue climber for the next 5 years for....some reason that will never be clear no matter how many times i watch that classic

Sarauk2sf

I will, when you tell me in the real world where you need visible abs!

Hmmm.....:huh: :huh:

Is that a body shame??

I choose to have abs, because I want too....

Now I am upping my calories, so they will most likely go away.....

But for me and my abs....maybe I just like to excel somewhere in my life.....I see plenty of ppl walking around without shirts and no abs.....so that seems easy enough.

huh? Can you reread in context please.

maybe.

Please do, as you accusing me of body shaming based on my comment that there is no real life reason to need visible abs, but people want them is rather baffling.

There was no underlying nefarious reason for my response to DavPul, especially that of body shaming, which for anyone who knows me or has seen my posts, I would also imagine would be baffled.

All you meant is what is the point of having washboard visible abs. Your right there is no need it is a want.

It's all cool - he just misread my comment.

DavPul

Someone please tell me when I'm going to have the opportunity to use my 500 pound grip strength in the real world. What world are you folks living in where you need to grip 200+ pounds? Is it a Flintstones couch?

Why did I train with straps? WHY???

in all fairness though....
It is the gloves fault....and hers for wearing them....
Not him using straps.....

Just sayin.

THEY DIDN"T EVEN MATCH HER CARGO BACKPACK. she got what she deserved

Sarauk2sf

IT WAS ALL STALLONE'S FAULT

brb, gonna hold a grudge against my fellow rescue climber for the next 5 years for....some reason that will never be clear no matter how many times i watch that classic

I did not get that either. I also am not sure why I actually like the film,,,but I did.

However, let's not sabotage this thread with Sly.....it should be about Hugh.......

dbmata

So legit question.

Why is a belt ok?
But straps aren't?

Don't both provide aid in a lift?

Are wrist wraps ok?

yopeeps025

So legit question.

Why is a belt ok?
But straps aren't?

Don't both provide aid in a lift?

Are wrist wraps ok?

Do you need them? NO
I used to use a belt for squats. I do not anymore. Wrist wraps I do not use either. What I do want to test is the girl on your lap bench press?

MityMax96

Let me say this regarding washboard abs.....

Yes it is a want.....
I also want to be about 200 lbs and 8% BF.....
But my frame will not hold that or is capable of it....within the natural world.

So if I can have washboard abs, while 90% or so of the population does not....then hell yes, I will work my *kitten* off to get them.....

As I said before, I don't excel in many areas in or out of the gym.....
So if this is one area where I can, then I will.....

I have a small frame (small chest, shoulders, back, especially legs)
weak lifts
and crappy joints.

So I work and discipline myself to get abs, because I want them.....

I mean why are any of us in the gym pushing iron around anyways???
We don't have too.
We want too, because we want something out of it

JoRocka

Let me say this regarding washboard abs.....

Yes it is a want....

You're damn right it's a want.

Seriously- wtf is going on here people- MORE ABS- more GIFS AND MORE PICTURES!!!

dbmata

So legit question.

Why is a belt ok?
But straps aren't?

Don't both provide aid in a lift?

Are wrist wraps ok?

Do you need them? NO
I used to use a belt for squats. I do not anymore. Wrist wraps I do not use either. What I do want to test is the girl on your lap bench press?

Pants off.

Pre or post dance off?

MityMax96

Let me say this regarding washboard abs.....

Yes it is a want....

You're damn right it's a want.

Seriously- wtf is going on here people- MORE ABS- more GIFS AND MORE PICTURES!!!

Sorry but for me right now, my want for abs is in conflict with my want for size.....so til Feb, I guess abs get the back seat......:sad: :sad: :sad:

Commander_Keen

He's absolutely natty. The guy doesn't have a six pack. You know a guy is using roids when he is massive AND he is shredded (i.e. body builders). That's a great accomplishment for any age and it is very attainable for people who don't use steroids.

Wait, really? You really believe that ??