Hugh Jackman Deadlifts 400 pounds

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    ANYTHING can be over done and set back gains.

    It wasn't a little over the top- it was completely blown out of proportion because it was like saying all cars have wheels.

    Well no *kitten* sherlock.

    ANY program done with to much of X and not enough rest will impede your gains.
  • rogerOb1
    rogerOb1 Posts: 318 Member
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    If its anything like the chart that was was going around before, their definition of elite was "strong enough to compete", and if the other stat that was on this thread is anything to go by, that's possibly in the top 1% of the planet strength-wise.
  • rogerOb1
    rogerOb1 Posts: 318 Member
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    ANYTHING can be over done and set back gains.

    It wasn't a little over the top- it was completely blown out of proportion because it was like saying all cars have wheels.

    Well no *kitten* sherlock.

    ANY program done with to much of X and not enough rest will impede your gains.

    Sure, but it wasn't about "ANY program done with to much of X" - the point was specifically about deadlifting heavy - a lot of elite athletes' coaches wont have them in their program because the effects on the cns mess up the athletes recovery to the point of making them inefficient to include. The same wouldn't apply to the other lifts. Beyond that, lots of exaggeration.


    Edit: talking about sportsmen/athletes not power-lifters etc.
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
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    ANYTHING can be over done and set back gains.

    It wasn't a little over the top- it was completely blown out of proportion because it was like saying all cars have wheels.

    Well no *kitten* sherlock.

    ANY program done with to much of X and not enough rest will impede your gains.

    Sure, but it wasn't about "ANY program done with to much of X" - the point was specifically about deadlifting heavy - a lot of elite athletes' coaches wont have them in their program because the effects on the cns mess up the athletes recovery to the point of making them inefficient to include. The same wouldn't apply to the other lifts. Beyond that, lots of exaggeration.


    Edit: talking about sportsmen/athletes not power-lifters etc.

    Barry Ross uses deadlifting 3x week with his sprinters....
  • rogerOb1
    rogerOb1 Posts: 318 Member
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    Barry Ross uses deadlifting 3x week with his sprinters....

    Yup - I wasn't making a blanket statement - there will always be some folks who buck trends - but not everyone uses his methods. He keeps the DLs heavy & the volumes very low I think.
  • dubird
    dubird Posts: 1,849 Member
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    Sorry, saw the title and this is the first thing that came to mind. XD

    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/hugh_jackman
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
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    Ok, quick update.
    Deadlifts today
    315# x 5 reps, no straps.
    350# x 4 w/ straps
    330# x 5 w/ straps
  • MagnumBurrito
    MagnumBurrito Posts: 1,070 Member
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    Ok, quick update.
    Deadlifts today
    315# x 5 reps, no straps.
    350# x 4 w/ straps
    330# x 5 w/ straps

    Just curious, what grip are you using for each?
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
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    Barry Ross uses deadlifting 3x week with his sprinters....

    Yup - I wasn't making a blanket statement - there will always be some folks who buck trends - but not everyone uses his methods. He keeps the DLs heavy & the volumes very low I think.

    Yep. 3x3 with 85-90% of 1RM (Plus plyo work). No warm up sets. 3x week... Extremely low volume. Basically follows Pavel and Dan John's rule of ten.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,951 Member
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    Pavel's Russian Bear programme is volume deadlifting and pressing 3 x week. That's touted as a hypertrophy programme, isn't it?

    Oh, and congrats to Hugh. Nice job!

    hmm, which definition of bear is ol' Pav using?
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
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    Ok, quick update.
    Deadlifts today
    315# x 5 reps, no straps.
    350# x 4 w/ straps
    330# x 5 w/ straps

    Just curious, what grip are you using for each?

    315 was over/over
    350 and 330 over/under
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
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    Pavel's Russian Bear programme is volume deadlifting and pressing 3 x week. That's touted as a hypertrophy programme, isn't it?

    Oh, and congrats to Hugh. Nice job!

    hmm, which definition of bear is ol' Pav using?

    Big guy, hairy, leather? :laugh:
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,951 Member
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    Pavel's Russian Bear programme is volume deadlifting and pressing 3 x week. That's touted as a hypertrophy programme, isn't it?

    Oh, and congrats to Hugh. Nice job!

    hmm, which definition of bear is ol' Pav using?

    Big guy, hairy, leather? :laugh:
    I'll have to get this program.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,951 Member
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    Ok, quick update.
    Deadlifts today
    315# x 5 reps, no straps.
    350# x 4 w/ straps
    330# x 5 w/ straps

    Just curious, what grip are you using for each?

    315 was over/over
    350 and 330 over/under

    Try that 330 with a hook grip (*kitten* grip) and give it a pull.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
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    Ok, quick update.
    Deadlifts today
    315# x 5 reps, no straps.
    350# x 4 w/ straps
    330# x 5 w/ straps

    Just curious, what grip are you using for each?

    315 was over/over
    350 and 330 over/under

    Try that 330 with a hook grip (*kitten* grip) and give it a pull.

    Now hook grip hurts my thumb. The video I was watching said well yeah man up LOL. over/over grip for me seems to increase my grip strength just fine.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
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    Ok, quick update.
    Deadlifts today
    315# x 5 reps, no straps.
    350# x 4 w/ straps
    330# x 5 w/ straps

    Just curious, what grip are you using for each?

    315 was over/over
    350 and 330 over/under

    Try that 330 with a hook grip (*kitten* grip) and give it a pull.

    How is that one done??
    Have not seen that grip.
    Is it wear you wrap the thumb inside the fingers?
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
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    Ok, quick update.
    Deadlifts today
    315# x 5 reps, no straps.
    350# x 4 w/ straps
    330# x 5 w/ straps

    Just curious, what grip are you using for each?

    315 was over/over
    350 and 330 over/under

    Try that 330 with a hook grip (*kitten* grip) and give it a pull.

    How is that one done??
    Have not seen that grip.
    Is it wear you wrap the thumb inside the fingers?

    Like when you do a snatch: you basically wrap your fingers around the bar and your thumb.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    Ok, quick update.
    Deadlifts today
    315# x 5 reps, no straps.
    350# x 4 w/ straps
    330# x 5 w/ straps

    Just curious, what grip are you using for each?

    315 was over/over
    350 and 330 over/under

    Try that 330 with a hook grip (*kitten* grip) and give it a pull.

    fug that noise. straps before hook grip for me! I'm a weenie!
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
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    How is that one done??
    Have not seen that grip.
    Is it wear you wrap the thumb inside the fingers?

    Like when you do a snatch: you basically wrap your fingers around the bar and your thumb.

    Yeah, I will stick w/ straps then
    That grip feels very awkward to me.
    I don't think I do any exercises w/ that grip, my thumb always lays across the bar.
    Dumbbells I do wrap around though.
  • rogerOb1
    rogerOb1 Posts: 318 Member
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    Barry Ross uses deadlifting 3x week with his sprinters....

    Yup - I wasn't making a blanket statement - there will always be some folks who buck trends - but not everyone uses his methods. He keeps the DLs heavy & the volumes very low I think.

    Yep. 3x3 with 85-90% of 1RM (Plus plyo work). No warm up sets. 3x week... Extremely low volume. Basically follows Pavel and Dan John's rule of ten.

    No warm up sets? Sounds interesting. Sounds risky @ 85-90%. How does it work (Im assuming they do something to prep for it)?