Rudeness of a total stranger!
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And lets not equate smoking with being fat.
Being a smoker is not really embarrassing, many consider it 'cool'.
Telling someone that they're fat is NOT cool.....
Smokers are "cool?" They're looked upon as pariahs where I live. You can scarcely smoke in public without being wailed at for causing countless deaths due to the perils of "second-hand smoke" (although drinking, which affects others much more widely, is virtually celebrated).
You should post the location where smokers are considered cool. Perhaps they can start a little colony where they can, you know, actually smoke when they eat. Fat people get to eat as much as they'd like in public. They even have places designed for them to stuff their faces!0 -
You can continue to get healthier with hard work & determination, but I'm guessing there is very little chance that hard work will improve his propensity to be a tool.
Im with him on this !! If he had grown up with any manners at all he would have known not to do that!! People are so RUDE!! Just keep trucking! if you stick to it the pounds will fall off!!0 -
Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.0 -
Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.0 -
Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).0 -
Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).
I'm not acting like she's going to marry him. I'm being realistic about taking such "help" from a complete stranger. You can injure yourself exercising wrong. Or he could advise her to eat in a way that is counter to her goals. She knows nothing about him and as a newbie she doesn't yet have the tools to know when she's being given wrong advice.0 -
I don't understand why this is rude. According to your sticker, you have 100kg to lose. That is a lot. He wasn't trying to hurt you. He sounds like he was genuinely trying to help you. Do you know his story? Maybe someone he loved died from obesity-related causes? Maybe he was once severely obese, changed his life, and now wants to help others.
Would you rather someone tell you that you look fine, to ignore the doctors, to eat up, etc? I don't understand. I would love to have someone reach out to me and offer to help me reach my goals.
It would have been better if he pulled you aside or had been a bit more tactful, but some people do lack social skills. It doesn't make them bad people.
Regardless of whether he was once obese or is trying to help, his behaviour is still extremely rude and inappropriate.
No nobody is saying they would rather a stranger tell them they look fine, should ignore doctors etc, or that it would have been better if he pulled her aside.
What they are saying is that he should do none of the above - he should mind his own business and say and do nothing.0 -
I was eating lunch in a food court with some colleagues when a total stranger came up to me and said I have really noticeable facial hair and he offered me some free tweezers.
Maybe he could have been more tactful or pulled aside to offer me this but it's not rude because he meant well or just has poor social skills.
I felt humiliated but that's just because I am too super sensitive
And perhaps he once has an excess hair problem himself so that makes it ok.0 -
Debate noted. Good points.
Still, being lead astray even, would probably benefit in the end. You said yourself a PT could harm me as much as "Joe Blow". I would have to take some kind of accountability on form and proper etiquette .. etc.0 -
Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).
I'm not acting like she's going to marry him. I'm being realistic about taking such "help" from a complete stranger. You can injure yourself exercising wrong. Or he could advise her to eat in a way that is counter to her goals. She knows nothing about him and as a newbie she doesn't yet have the tools to know when she's being given wrong advice.
Now you're just pulling out the strawman.
You're talking about this guy's nutritional advice? Like people on here often say, doctors typically know little about it, so obviously some random dude off the street probably isn't a nutritionist. Why don't you tell her to hire a nutritionist instead of listening to anyone (like on these forums, for instance, or are all the nutritionists hiding here?).
And cause her to injure herself, due to incorrect form? What kind of people do you know that are that clueless? I knew basic proper form as a teen (you know, before the Net, and no one has any excuse now).
I'm not a certified trainer (or a nutritionist for that matter) but I could certainly help someone considerably, that has no idea what they're doing.
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she'll never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.0 -
Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).
I'm not acting like she's going to marry him. I'm being realistic about taking such "help" from a complete stranger. You can injure yourself exercising wrong. Or he could advise her to eat in a way that is counter to her goals. She knows nothing about him and as a newbie she doesn't yet have the tools to know when she's being given wrong advice.
Now you're just pulling out the strawman.
You're talking about this guy's nutritional advice? Like people on here often say, doctors typically know little about it, so obviously some random dude off the street probably isn't a nutritionist. Why don't you tell her to hire a nutritionist instead of listening to anyone (like on these forums, for instance, or are all the nutritionists hiding here?).
And cause her to injure herself, due to incorrect form? What kind of people do you know that are that clueless? I knew basic proper form as a teen (you know, before the Net, and no one has any excuse now).
I'm not a certified trainer (or a nutritionist for that matter) but I could certainly help someone considerably, that has no idea what they're doing.
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she's never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
WUT?
First of all, OP has said repeatedly that she is already working on herself AND having success. How do you know she's not at the gym (or planning to join at some point). You don't need exercise to lose weight, either.
Second of all, people have bad form all the time. A LOT of people are that clueless. If you think otherwise, then I would question your lifting creds.
Rude behavior is rude. Period. It's no one's place to comment on a stranger's issue.0 -
DUDE. He was way out of line. I would have shredded him. There is no place for this kind of aggressive intrusiveness in civilized society. I think I'd have to offer to help him with his rudeness and nosiness problem!0
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Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).
I'm not acting like she's going to marry him. I'm being realistic about taking such "help" from a complete stranger. You can injure yourself exercising wrong. Or he could advise her to eat in a way that is counter to her goals. She knows nothing about him and as a newbie she doesn't yet have the tools to know when she's being given wrong advice.
Now you're just pulling out the strawman.
You're talking about this guy's nutritional advice? Like people on here often say, doctors typically know little about it, so obviously some random dude off the street probably isn't a nutritionist. Why don't you tell her to hire a nutritionist instead of listening to anyone (like on these forums, for instance, or are all the nutritionists hiding here?).
And cause her to injure herself, due to incorrect form? What kind of people do you know that are that clueless? I knew basic proper form as a teen (you know, before the Net, and no one has any excuse now).
I'm not a certified trainer (or a nutritionist for that matter) but I could certainly help someone considerably, that has no idea what they're doing.
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she'll never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
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Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).
I'm not acting like she's going to marry him. I'm being realistic about taking such "help" from a complete stranger. You can injure yourself exercising wrong. Or he could advise her to eat in a way that is counter to her goals. She knows nothing about him and as a newbie she doesn't yet have the tools to know when she's being given wrong advice.
Now you're just pulling out the strawman.
You're talking about this guy's nutritional advice? Like people on here often say, doctors typically know little about it, so obviously some random dude off the street probably isn't a nutritionist. Why don't you tell her to hire a nutritionist instead of listening to anyone (like on these forums, for instance, or are all the nutritionists hiding here?).
And cause her to injure herself, due to incorrect form? What kind of people do you know that are that clueless? I knew basic proper form as a teen (you know, before the Net, and no one has any excuse now).
I'm not a certified trainer (or a nutritionist for that matter) but I could certainly help someone considerably, that has no idea what they're doing.
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she's never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
WUT?
First of all, OP has said repeatedly that she is already working on herself AND having success. How do you know she's not at the gym (or planning to join at some point). You don't need exercise to lose weight, either.
Yeah, I'm sure she'll start going to the gym tomorrow. It's always tomorrow.Second of all, people have bad form all the time. A LOT of people are that clueless. If you think otherwise, then I would question your lifting creds.
Sure, people have bad form, but they're not typically the ones going around showing others how to lift. And you can act like basic form is a difficult thing to figure out all you'd like. It's not. Of course, you could point to people that have no idea about anything. Let's talk about the average person (oh, and most know how to use the Internet).
And you can question my "lifting creds" all you'd like. I'm not the one here looking for solutions.0 -
Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).
I'm not acting like she's going to marry him. I'm being realistic about taking such "help" from a complete stranger. You can injure yourself exercising wrong. Or he could advise her to eat in a way that is counter to her goals. She knows nothing about him and as a newbie she doesn't yet have the tools to know when she's being given wrong advice.
Now you're just pulling out the strawman.
You're talking about this guy's nutritional advice? Like people on here often say, doctors typically know little about it, so obviously some random dude off the street probably isn't a nutritionist. Why don't you tell her to hire a nutritionist instead of listening to anyone (like on these forums, for instance, or are all the nutritionists hiding here?).
And cause her to injure herself, due to incorrect form? What kind of people do you know that are that clueless? I knew basic proper form as a teen (you know, before the Net, and no one has any excuse now).
I'm not a certified trainer (or a nutritionist for that matter) but I could certainly help someone considerably, that has no idea what they're doing.
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she's never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
WUT?
First of all, OP has said repeatedly that she is already working on herself AND having success. How do you know she's not at the gym (or planning to join at some point). You don't need exercise to lose weight, either.
Yeah, I'm sure she'll start going to the gym tomorrow. It's always tomorrow.Second of all, people have bad form all the time. A LOT of people are that clueless. If you think otherwise, then I would question your lifting creds.
Sure, people have bad form, but they're not typically the ones going around showing others how to lift. And you can act like basic form is a difficult thing to figure out all you'd like. It's not. Of course, you could point to people that have no idea about anything. Let's talk about the average person (oh, and most know how to use the Internet).
And you can question my "lifting creds" all you'd like. I'm not the one here looking for solutions.
Do you know something about OP the rest of us don't?0 -
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she'll never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
Huh?
I think someone may be having comprehension issues. This thread is beginning to feel like it went through a free online translator.0 -
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she'll never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
For someone who doesn't have much to add, you certainly know how to use the quote feature.0 -
Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).
I'm not acting like she's going to marry him. I'm being realistic about taking such "help" from a complete stranger. You can injure yourself exercising wrong. Or he could advise her to eat in a way that is counter to her goals. She knows nothing about him and as a newbie she doesn't yet have the tools to know when she's being given wrong advice.
Now you're just pulling out the strawman.
You're talking about this guy's nutritional advice? Like people on here often say, doctors typically know little about it, so obviously some random dude off the street probably isn't a nutritionist. Why don't you tell her to hire a nutritionist instead of listening to anyone (like on these forums, for instance, or are all the nutritionists hiding here?).
And cause her to injure herself, due to incorrect form? What kind of people do you know that are that clueless? I knew basic proper form as a teen (you know, before the Net, and no one has any excuse now).
I'm not a certified trainer (or a nutritionist for that matter) but I could certainly help someone considerably, that has no idea what they're doing.
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she's never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
WUT?
First of all, OP has said repeatedly that she is already working on herself AND having success. How do you know she's not at the gym (or planning to join at some point). You don't need exercise to lose weight, either.
Yeah, I'm sure she'll start going to the gym tomorrow. It's always tomorrow.Second of all, people have bad form all the time. A LOT of people are that clueless. If you think otherwise, then I would question your lifting creds.
Sure, people have bad form, but they're not typically the ones going around showing others how to lift. And you can act like basic form is a difficult thing to figure out all you'd like. It's not. Of course, you could point to people that have no idea about anything. Let's talk about the average person (oh, and most know how to use the Internet).
And you can question my "lifting creds" all you'd like. I'm not the one here looking for solutions.
What are you even talking about? Do you even read? Seriously.
You don't know the OP from anyone. You don't know what her intentions are with exercise. You are making assumptions based on your own bias which is rude and offensive to not only the OP, but to everyone here who has been obese and has lost the weight. She never said anything about "tomorrow."
And if you think that there aren't bad lifters going around showing other people how to lift, you are naive. It happens all the time, in every gym, every day. I certainly wouldn't bestown any unearned confidence on some random dude at a food court.
People are on MFP for different reasons. Some are here for solutions, some are here for entertainment, some are here for friends, some are here for recipes, some are here for all of the above. Who are you to judge anyone's motivations for being here? Why are you even here?0 -
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she'll never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
For someone who doesn't have much to add, you certainly know how to use the quote feature.0 -
This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she'll never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
For someone who doesn't have much to add, you certainly know how to use the quote feature.
Yeah, I didn't know you were hitting refresh every 5 secs, to see the latest news.
I had something to do, and didn't expect the opportunity to refute another post.
You're much more responsive than the average poster.0 -
Yes..... it was RUDE. There truly are people in this world that think they've cornered the market on PERFECTION.
Everybody on Earth has ISSUES! That person might be super fit & trim..... but could have been a murderer.... a child molester.... or any such hideous creature. No one knows what hidden repulsive issues other people have in their hearts, spirits, minds, and flesh.
In fact instead of setting out to make others smile..... There are people who make it their business to make others cry, feel defeated, and to totally withdraw from society. We must pray for such people, and try NOT TO CHOKE THEM WHEN THEY APPROACH US! :noway: ITS A TEST!
We humans have a way of focusing on the troubles and woes of others while trying to hide that WE have a BIG FAT PROBLEM. I have people in my environment like that too! They pretend to want to help.... when in all essence they're saying LOOK AT ME.... I AM PERFECT. I KNOW EVERYTHING..... I AM OUT TO MAKE YOU JUST LIKE ME! No thank you!!!
To that I say: Sweep around your own front door, before you try to sweep around mine. YOU ARE YOUR OWN PROJECT.... NOT ME!
The thing is ALL HELL might be going on in that persons Life & Home, and yet... they're too blind to see what's right in front of them.... but they focus on you, turning a blind eye to their own issues.
I really think people like that are ego tripping.... wanting to feel important. You were on point: It was VERY rude. My Mom used to tell me that Laughing was catching..... and not to laugh at people. Lets put a twist on it today.... for Mr. Rude.
RUDENESS IS CATCHING.... TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU'D LIKE TO BE TREATED.
Sometimes we'd all be BETTER OFF if we kept our mouths shut. The tongue is a fire starter!
On the flip side..... I have people in my world who took the time to tell me I had gotten THIN enough. They never bothered telling me I had gotten OBESE ENOUGH. LOL!!! Imagine that!!!!! :laugh:
Stay encouraged and know that YOU MATTER.... No one has a right to try and walk all over you! (((HUGGZZ)))0 -
I can't believe this is still being discussed.0
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This guy was offering free help, and you guys are busy with your convoluted logic, trying to twist what may have been an actual opportunity for the OP.
That's ok, she'll never see the insides of a gym. Mission accomplished.
I'll leave you the last word.
For someone who doesn't have much to add, you certainly know how to use the quote feature.
Yeah, I didn't know you were hitting refresh every 5 secs, to see the latest news.
I had something to do, and didn't expect the opportunity to refute another post.
You're much more responsive than the average poster.
So, anyway, can you please tell me what information you have about the OP that the rest of us don't?0 -
Congratulations on your 8kg weight loss! Forget that guy and keep up the great work. Here's to being healthy & strong!!0
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Coming outta left field on this one ... I might have taken his "help".
But I'm pretty much a newbie and if someone wanted to help me and knew a thing or two around a gym I'd jump on it. Especially for the price of free.. js.
If he was rude or not .. that's all perspective.
Even certified trainers often give terrible advice and this is some random dude off the street.
You act like she said she was going to marry the guy.
Perhaps she would handle it the same way one handles those "certified" trainers. If it works out, great. If not, move on.
Although she called herself a "newbie." Pretty much anyone with some gym experience would be able to help out.
Or, maybe she just makes a friend (this is where everyone can chime in that the dude is obviously not worth being anyone's friend).
I'm sorry but I've seen some people in my gym that I would NEVER take any advice from. At all. They weren't doing any weighted squats correctly, form was horrible, I saw one trying to do weighted squats on a Bosu ball...yeah, not taking their advice. So just because there is the internet doesn't mean people actually look up correct form or study it. More people have bad form than one would think.
What business is it of his to come up to her and say that...seriously. It's more hurtful than helpful. If someone wants help and wants to change THEY will reach out and they will make said changes.
Baffling to me that people think this is okay.0 -
Wow! That is rude. It would have been bad enough to approach you when you were alone, but to do so in front of other people?!?! that's incredible! That guy needs a lesson on how to treat people. If he wants to help, he should wear a t-shirt advertising "call me, I'll help you lose weight" or something and keep his mouth shut. I've been asked if I was pregnant before by a co-worker and then she turns to another co-worker and says, "doesn't she look pregnant?" It stung, but it was the most motivating comment. Congrats on your 8kg weight loss! Hang in there. Turn what the idiot said to you to your advantage. You're angry, rightfully so, but don't let it eat at you and get you down. You know how hard you have worked and soon your amazing results will be seen by everyone. Channel your anger to work harder or to keep you motivated. Whenever you want to fall off the wagon think of what he said. It helped me to stay motivated. Good luck!0
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Ok someone offers you free help in the gym. I wouldn't be offended, i'd be grateful. The dude was trying to be helpful. Just because no one talks about your weight problem doesn't mean they're not aware of it.
The only problem I see is talking to you in front of other people. Other than that - I'd like free gym!
I do have thick skin though and enough self-esteem so I do not care much about what others say...0 -
I'm also astounded that anyone thinks that is appropriate behavior.0
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It can be humiliating when you are trying... You did mention your church group and community outreach. Perhaps since you are in a church you are a believer and if that is the case, could it be that the Lord sent someone to you to partner with you in your efforts?
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It can be humiliating when you are trying... You did mention your church group and community outreach. Perhaps since you are in a church you are a believer and if that is the case, could it be that the Lord sent someone to you to partner with you in your efforts?0
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