Team UK - January 2011!

lrns88

Apologies in advance - this is going to be a miserable ranty post because I'm in a foul mood and am so angry with my Dad right now and need to vent!!!!


So went to the gym last night for Personal Trainer appointment with Alan and he'd looked at my printed food diary (averaging 1400 - 1600 calories a day since 3 Jan) and he said I'm doing well but gotta eat more as my basic metabolic rate (ummmm, don’t really understand it) is 2200 with all the exercise I'm doing so 1400 is too low so I've gotta aim for 1700 a day (obs not chocolate, they still have to be healthy calories!). Then did really hard workout session.

Came home and told M+D and told them I'd lost 5lbs and Alan had told me to eat more, and Dad just started saying how that was bulls**t and if anything I should eat less than what I am now, he saw the BBC programme (How to loose weight......I did a blog article on it a few weeks ago) and was like you obviously under estimate how many calories you eat so you've been lying to yourself and him and its ridiculous that you can expect to lose weight by eating more.

Well I obs retaliated by saying I know how many calories goes into our food because I cook for you 5 times a week, I don't lecture you about how much beer, wine, Jack Daniels or other rubbish you put in your body, I have been working my *kitten* off at the gym 3 times a week, and I'm going to trust someone with a nutrition qualification over you. He just said it was ridiculous and I was kidding myself.

I then had to eat dinner (yeah, really fancied eating by that point) and I just cant snap out of being so unhappy and disappointed that he doesn't believe me or trust me and its that lack of support. Just really unimpressed - if this was my sister he'd be so much more supportive but he just seems to want me to fail.




Grrrrrr! So I went to bed miserable and crying, which means I've woken up with puffy eyes and a headache! And I now just can't snap out of this mood. I'm not going to say I'm thinking about giving up because I'm not, but it just makes me question myself because if my Dad thinks I'm kidding myself, who on earth can support me!

Sorry, v miserable post but I had to get it out of my system or I'd sit at my desk and boil all day!

posherspice

Families eh. Definitely, trust your professional adviser, not someone who's obviously got issues of his own. And don't give up, you're doing so well! Deep respect for all the effort you're putting in - and don't forget, you're not doing it for your Dad or anyone else, you're doing it for you, so don't let anyone else get you down.

I'm new to this thread and it's great to see we UK guys and girls getting together!

lrns88

Thank you xxxx

mutleyreid

Hey Irns88, your doing really well. Keep on the track your on and you will get to where you want to be. My mum used to always say eat less too and it caused some major rows. I lose more now from eating more!

Ps I'm a southerner

binsylad

How do you join Team UK......Just being here? LOL
Just started this in earnest this week......could be a bumpy ride.

Mike

sdscouser

Welcome Mike.

elfward

lrns88 - If we always listened to family, we'd get nowhere!

I've not told my family I'm doing this, but my boyfriend knows and is being very supportive (mainly by trying to get me to do more exercise!), even though he's the reason I put on weight in the first place, and he's got into the habit of bringing a bottle of wine home after work most nights!

You'll get plenty of support on here.

x

lrns88

lrns88 - If we always listened to family, we'd get nowhere!

I've not told my family I'm doing this, but my boyfriend knows and is being very supportive (mainly by trying to get me to do more exercise!), even though he's the reason I put on weight in the first place, and he's got into the habit of bringing a bottle of wine home after work most nights!

You'll get plenty of support on here.

x

Thank you thanks to everyone whose posted lovely messages on here! Just had to get the rant out of my system (and check I wasn't the one out of order!). Feeling a bit more positive now and wanting to prove the nasty man wrong!! xxx

lesley1981

Mums and dads always seem to think they know best, even though who they're disagreeing with is someone who is fully qualified!

For years my mum told me I was putting on so much weight, and that I should really watch what I eat! The problem was, she was doing 99% of the cooking!!! I also found it very hypocritical of her, seeing as she herself is a rather plump lady! When she told me I should get out walking I thought to myself "when last did she go out for a walk"!

Anyways, my mum recently went to Slimming World with me, and lasted two meetings, claiming she didn't like it because she disagreed ENTIRELY with what it tries to teach you!! HOW???

The trick is to ignore it, when they go off on their wee rant just leave them to it!

gillleeman

Hi all and welcome to those newbies on here. I've had a quick catch-up but forgotten half of it so forgive me for not commenting individually. Did remember James and the Isle of Wight Festival (how many photos are you using James it keeps changing?!!!) I heard today its fully booked did you get in? Also remember poor Irns bless, hope you're feeling a bit better now. Us parents don't know everything and it can sometimes be hard to apologise to our children when we realise we made a mistake. I'm sure your Dad will come round in the end. The best way to prove your point is stick to your trainers advice and show your dad who's right and that will show in your physical appearance. Big Hug.

queenmedusa

Hi everyone

lrns88 - I totally understand where you're coming from. Unfortunately parents think they know EVERYTHING! Despite growing up being given cake, crisps, bread, mashed spuds with butter, chips, deep fried potatoes and stuff covered in cheese and cheese sauce it was my love of crisps (where I'd normally have one pack a day, max) that, apparently, caused me to grow up fat! Thankfully I now know that I know more about exercise and nutrition than them. Am sure that you and your PT will prove to your dad that he doesn't know everything - sadly the "just eat less" thing just isn't the solution to it all. Good luck :flowerforyou:

phil - I'm with Kendra on the student cookbooks. I'm a pretty good cook but I bought one last year as there were some pretty great recipes (and also advice on alternative ingredients in case you can't afford the proper stuff! LOL) Am sure your skills will develop. My ex is just learning to cook and he'll be 40 in July!

I missed out on a bit of cal burnage today as I had a lift home from work from dad. Did do the shred tho but also burned less calories than before - clearly my body is starting to adapt. On the plus side my abs are aching more from the crunches so things are starting to change as a result from shifting up to level 2. Gonna do loads of working out tomorrow night as it will be my last chance to do proper exercise until Saturday. This weekend will be a real test as I'm out for dinner Thurs, in London on Fri (for lunch and dinner), lunch on Sat and lunch on Sun! Hopefully I won't go nuts and I have to explain to my bezzie that I'm only having one course on Thurs :ohwell:

Hope everyone has a great day tomorrow.

lrns88

Morning everyone,

Thank you to everyone with all their lovely comments after my rant yesterday. You are all fantastic!!

Yesterday wasn't a great day, went out for dinner and rather than being conservative I ate exactly what I wanted (including a massive ice cream pudding). The calories were awful, but it was worth it!

Back on it today, went to Sainsburys before work for some more fruit and nuts to keep me going, have bought soup for lunch already so I can't decide I fancy something else at lunch time, and am hopefully hitting the gym this evening

Hope you all have a fab day xxx

Zomoniac

Hello.

I'm inviting myself to join Team UK.

*waves* \o

binsylad

So, been here a couple of days, and been watching both Calories and Exercise. I have a few of questions...... from your experiences

1) Is Honey good for you?
2) Is it usual to have an 800 -1100 Calorie Tea time meal?
3) Does it matter if you eat before bedtime?
4) Do you ever actually feel the benefit of taking a multivitamin?
5) Does tea, coffee, juice count towards the glasses of water?

There you are folks - your opinions are appreciated........

Mike
TEAM SOUTH

Rosy67

So, been here a couple of days, and been watching both Calories and Exercise. I have a few of questions...... from your experiences

1) Is Honey good for you?
2) Is it usual to have an 800 -1100 Calorie Tea time meal?
3) Does it matter if you eat before bedtime?
4) Do you ever actually feel the benefit of taking a multivitamin?
5) Does tea, coffee, juice count towards the glasses of water?

There you are folks - your opinions are appreciated........

Mike
TEAM SOUTH

Here's my twopen'orth...

1) Not really- it's still refined sugar, it's just that bees refine it instead of Tate & Lyle...
2) My dinners are considerably smaller (500ish), but I have changed my portion sizes completely (smaller plate). I'm also eating low GL carbs, so I'm not getting very hungry, and I hardly ever have pudding anyway.
3) I would say probably not if you are within your calorie limit.
4) I don't bother- I just try and get all my nutrients from healthy food. I don't think you feel physically different when you take multivitamins (unless you had a deficiency disease!), just a warm glow from feeling that you're doing something to help yourself.
5) No-Tea and coffee are diuretics, coffee more so than tea so you will pee out the water that you drank in. Juice- personally I don't count it, cos it's got so much sugar in it I only have diddy glasses otherwise it sets my sugar rollercoaster off and I feel hungry every hour and a half for the rest of the day. A glass of water is supposed to be 250ml at least, preferably half a pint. God knows how much sugar there would be in that much fruit juice.

*actually, I've just checked- Tesco longlife orange juice- 26.3g sugar in 250ml- more than 5 teaspoons!*

Discuss!

fireflye38

Hi all,

Just thought i would say a hi, and can i join Team Uk. As i do need some help with motivation and there seems to be quite alot here. Well keep going everyone. Paul

lesley1981

Hey guys!!

I'm really feeling rotten today :frown: although I don't feel sick, I've completely lost my appetite! Perhaps its something to do with me not sleeping the last few nights and being really busy in work....

I'm hoping that after my after-work walk I'll feel a bit better and maybe look forward to my dinner this evening!

Just out of curiosity, I recently bought some pretty new jeans which fit me perfectly except for one place... I still have the dreaded muffin top! A size bigger was just too big everywhere! Has anyone any suggestions re simple exercises/stretches that I could be doing at home in order to reduce the muffin top effect??

gillleeman

So, been here a couple of days, and been watching both Calories and Exercise. I have a few of questions...... from your experiences

1) Is Honey good for you?
2) Is it usual to have an 800 -1100 Calorie Tea time meal?
3) Does it matter if you eat before bedtime?
4) Do you ever actually feel the benefit of taking a multivitamin?
5) Does tea, coffee, juice count towards the glasses of water?

There you are folks - your opinions are appreciated........

Mike
t TEAM SOUTH
[Ok my thoughts are:

1. Same answer as Rosey on this one.
2. Yes, my evening meal is my highest. I have quite an active job housekeeper/gardener/masseur and I find eating larger meals in the daytime makes me feel queasy with all the bending.
3. No, if you're within your calorie allowance then have it. I've even read that it can keep your metabolism raised through the night therefore burning more calories whilst asleep.
4. My answer is same as Rosys.
5. Lots of confliction on this one. I do count it as I drink mainly tea and coffee. Only drink tiny amounts of water (usually after exercise or in hot weather). Juice is ok also, but still count the calories.

Its a lifestyle change, so do what you can do for the rest of your life. Its no good being all saintly initially if you can't sustain that for the rest of your life. /quote]

gillleeman

Still got the quote thingy wrong!!!!!!!!! I'm having one of those days today:grumble:

yvonnej1

Hey guys!!

I'm really feeling rotten today :frown: although I don't feel sick, I've completely lost my appetite! Perhaps its something to do with me not sleeping the last few nights and being really busy in work....

I'm hoping that after my after-work walk I'll feel a bit better and maybe look forward to my dinner this evening!

Just out of curiosity, I recently bought some pretty new jeans which fit me perfectly except for one place... I still have the dreaded muffin top! A size bigger was just too big everywhere! Has anyone any suggestions re simple exercises/stretches that I could be doing at home in order to reduce the muffin top effect??

Hi, I'm feeling pretty rubbish too, honorary man flu I think in my case! I've been quite limited with the ab exercises I can do because of a bad back so as I can't do crunches I have been mainly doing planks and side planks. I have found link to show you how in case you are unsure http://exercise.about.com/od/abs/ss/abexercises_10.htm I have found these really effective as even if you still have a layer of fat on your stomach (I still do!) your stronger core will help hold your tummy in.

James501

everyone good today??

Think i finally crack my food issue's i no longer eat for comfort. Had a ****ty couple of days and instead of my usual binge i've just ate as normal. Though my road rage has been worse :laugh:

James x

queenmedusa

1) Is Honey good for you?
2) Is it usual to have an 800 -1100 Calorie Tea time meal?
3) Does it matter if you eat before bedtime?
4) Do you ever actually feel the benefit of taking a multivitamin?
5) Does tea, coffee, juice count towards the glasses of water?

Mike - here's my twopenneth....

1) Better than refined sugar and sweetener but still has calories which must be counted.
2 and 3) Whatever you eat before bedtime sits in your stomach overnight and doesn't have time to metabolise. There is research that says this may make it more likely that your body will store the calories as fat. If you have a 800 - 1100 calorie meal at night then that's a lot of calories that your body doesn't have time to burn. 500 cals is more normal. The earlier in the evening you can eat the better, this is why a lot of people say not to eat carbs after 5pm.
4) Vitamins from healthy foods are absorbed better by the body but if you struggle to do that then a multi is better than nothing.
5) There is plenty of research that says that the water in tea and coffee does count, as does the water in fruit and veg (but obviously that's more difficult to quantify). There's a great podcast by the Nutrition Diva (go to: http://nutritiondiva.quickanddirtytips.com/) that explains in more detail. Juice (assuming you mean fruit juice, and not concentrate / squash) doesn't count but is one of your 5 a day although it does use up some of your calories. Squash does count.

Paul and Zomoniac - welcome to the team!

James - I'm the same mate. Hardly ever fancy cake or chocolate or crisps and when I do I just shrug and ignore it!

Hope everyone's had a good day. I've eaten well and exercised and in quite a good mood now considering how crappy work has been. Achieved absolutely nothing and found out that one of my mates is leaving next month. On the upside another of my mates is returning next week! A bit worried about my weekend of socialising, just got to try not to do too much damage and work my butt off on Saturday evening to counteract it. Will be quite for the next couple of days so I hope everyone has fun til then. See ya Saturday!

yvonnej1

everyone good today??

Think i finally crack my food issue's i no longer eat for comfort. Had a ****ty couple of days and instead of my usual binge i've just ate as normal. Though my road rage has been worse :laugh:

James x

Glad I haven't been driving round Guildford then! Good on you for getting your eating under control. I was really good when I was losing weight as chocolate, crisps etc were all an absolute no. Now I'm on maintenance, have more calories to play with and have let 'treats' sneak back in again I'm finding it harder to control. Think I might have to go cold turkey again.

bertha2010

Hi all,

I only joined this today and hope you do not mind me joining in, its nice to be able to read all your comments of support to each other :-)

I have tracked today's food intake and am more than a little mortified of just how many calories I have consumed , time for some changes !!

Beth x

mickyloo

Hello everyone, I'm new to this and to be completely honest I'm struggling already.

I'm not sleeping too well, feel ill and I'm skint which makes it all the harder to try and eat better!!! I lost two stone two and half years ago but then fell pregnant. The weight crept on and in the last year and a half I've put back on that two stone and it's depressing. I comfort eat and have nothing to wear.

Friends and colleagues are dieting and they are doing well and I just can't seem to get started and I'm feeling pretty cr*p and have spent the last hour in tears as I'm on my own.

I'm getting angry that I'm being so stupid and am really sorry for ranting but need to get it out of my system, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

binsylad

Queen M - Many thanks, I have been to that site on your advice! Regards M

kerry2285

Hi everyone, have read through alot of this post and would like to join too if possible.

Ive been on the site a few months but only just getting round to exploring it and this is my first post :-)

I have alot of weight to shift but I want to loose inches mainly, drop a few dress sizes would be nice!!

So its about 2 weeks since I started healthy eating again and I do well in the day time but its the evening when im home that I wanna snack and eat chocolate, my big down fall!!! Any tips for curving the snack craving?? I have been like it for years and really want to kick the habbit and hunger pangs at night!

Kerry x

wizzywig

Hi Team UK

I've not been on this thread for a few months, like a few others, life got in the way and then Christmas. :noway: :noway: I still post on another thread, but hope to get back into posting in Team UK regularly, it's nice to catch up with other UK members.

:flowerforyou: We all seem to be in a determined mood after the Christmas break, so here's to a new us this year. Let's hope this new determination lasts.

I'd better get ready for work, I've made my healthy sandwich for lunchtime, will stock up on fruit and low fat yogurts to snack on, (save reaching for the Kit Kats) :bigsmile: :bigsmile:

Have a good day.

lrns88

Morning everyone, and hello to all the newbies (I'm sure I'm still in this category as I've only been on here 2 weeks!).

Just wanted to wish you all luck, and this is the best place to find support and succeed so I know you're going to be fantastic!!

xxx

Oddelly

Hello and welcome newest newbies!

mickyloo - sorry you're having such a tough time, but stay with this site and you will get loads of support from all the awesome people here. As a fellow (hopefully former) comfort eater just make sure you count those calories and I'm sure you'll see a difference that will put friends and collegues to shame And give yourself a break, if you have a kid it will be harder to do things like exercise etc. re money I actually think that by planning my meals, eating less and not buying ready made crap I'm saving money (yay!). Don't feel silly for the rant, we all need them Good luck!