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SHBoss1673

Is this meant to be a light, quasi-anecdotal approach to nutrition? Because the athletes, medical professionals, fitness professionals, and exercise nuts over at Bodybuilding.com would not agree at all that so little come from fats and proteins and so much come from carbs.

Which is why I don't get my nutritional information from bodybuilding.com. I get mine from the nationally accredited National Strength and Conditioning Association or the US Olympic team website sometimes. (when we're talking about athletes, otherwise I usually lean towards University level text or recognized experts in a field).

FYI, body builders are notorious for having very invasive nutrition practices that are focused on the extreme results in a minimum of time. You need to be very very careful about that type of resource. Not saying there aren't smart people on there, just saying their goals aren't necessarily long term health and wellness.

Steph_Marie29

Hmmm. That sounds interesting

seansquared

Which is why I don't get my nutritional information from bodybuilding.com. I get mine from the nationally accredited National Strength and Conditioning Association or the US Olympic team website sometimes. (when we're talking about athletes, otherwise I usually lean towards University level text or recognized experts in a field).

Interesting. Digging through NSCA docs does show a whopping 40-60% carbs. Surprising to me as an individual dieter, though for athletes who constantly need fuel that does make perfect sense.

FYI, body builders are notorious for having very invasive nutrition practices that are focused on the extreme results in a minimum of time. You need to be very very careful about that type of resource. Not saying there aren't smart people on there, just saying their goals aren't necessarily long term health and wellness.

I think the number of long-term low-carb athletes speaks volumes. Still, the number of high-carb ones does the same!

susioryan

Fabulous!

atomdraco

check, check, check, .... Awesome post!

SHBoss1673

Which is why I don't get my nutritional information from bodybuilding.com. I get mine from the nationally accredited National Strength and Conditioning Association or the US Olympic team website sometimes. (when we're talking about athletes, otherwise I usually lean towards University level text or recognized experts in a field).

Interesting. Digging through NSCA docs does show a whopping 40-60% carbs. Surprising to me as an individual dieter, though for athletes who constantly need fuel that does make perfect sense.

FYI, body builders are notorious for having very invasive nutrition practices that are focused on the extreme results in a minimum of time. You need to be very very careful about that type of resource. Not saying there aren't smart people on there, just saying their goals aren't necessarily long term health and wellness.

I think the number of long-term low-carb athletes speaks volumes. Still, the number of high-carb ones does the same!

I'm not sure that I know of a lot of long term, low carb athletes.

Specific to body building, low carb (specifically, many go ketogenic in this phase) is used primarily in the cut phase to help reduce water weight. And while yes, some body builders do prefer high protein diets, all the research I've ever seen has shown that anything above about 35% protein isn't utilized for muscle repair or growth anyway, so eating high percentages of protein (40% and up) is basically the same as eating the extra in complex carbs or fat. Well, not exactly the same, but similar in that it'll just be converted to energy. Remember, the body won't store excess protein, it'll convert it. In fact the body won't store any macronutrients in their original form, all unused macronutrients are either eliminated (a very small percentage) or stored as fat, for later conversion to energy.

There's no substantial proof that ketogenic diets burn any more fat than a normal diet. The one argument about high protein that has a modest amount of validity is the thermogenic effect it has. It takes slightly more energy to convert protein than it does carbs and/or fat, but the difference is super small, you're talking about 20 to 50 calories a day extra. And that's if you talk about very large % differences (say 10 or 15% or more)

EbonyGemstoneHealth

Bump!

cmriverside

Well, three posts. SHBoss, JulieF11, and the cult-leader guy.

SHBoss1673

LOL, Cheryl, you always have the coolest bump images. You need a hobby lady!

cmriverside

I actually made that one My Favorite Post- .........you're not gonna find that on Emos.com.

cmriverside

..anf this IS my hobby.

SHBoss1673

..anf this IS my hobby.

yikes! :flowerforyou:

shaunshaikh

Just like you say body builders may not be the correct source for nutrition, it could be argued that athletes aren't either. The average person here trying to lose weight could care less about peak performacne at competition. It could be argued that the average person here wants to reduce their body fat percentage to healthy or fit levels, something that body builders focus on more than athletes.

Honestly the only thing I disagree on is I think you could go higher on your fat percentages. It's not really that big of a deal. In my opinion, I really like the stroutman approach -- make sure you get enough protein, 5-6 servings of veggies, 2-3 servings of fruit, and enough good fats, then the rest of your diet takes care of itself.

SHBoss1673

Just like you say body builders may not be the correct source for nutrition, it could be argued that athletes aren't either. The average person here trying to lose weight could care less about peak performacne at competition. It could be argued that the average person here wants to reduce their body fat percentage to healthy or fit levels, something that body builders focus on more than athletes.

Honestly the only thing I disagree on is I think you could go higher on your fat percentages. It's not really that big of a deal. In my opinion, I really like the stroutman approach -- make sure you get enough protein, 5-6 servings of veggies, 2-3 servings of fruit, and enough good fats, then the rest of your diet takes care of itself.

I can't say I disagree with anything here, and I have the utmost respect for Steve (Stroutman). Please don't mistake me in thinking that I think the athletes themselves are nutrition experts, I don't think that, I think the dietitians they employ are usually world class though (in the case of professional teams and/or the Olympic center), and they generally do believe in the normal macronutrient levels (I.E. something along the lines of between 40/35/25 and 50/30/20 carbs/protein/fat depending on the sport), in fact, other than body building and weight lifting, I can't think of a sport where they promote super high protein levels at the professional levels. Unless maybe you consider cross country long haul trucking a sport, in which case, caffeine should also be a macronutrient

SHBoss1673

I'm thinking, every time I see a diet thread, I'm going to bump this thread. Who's with me?

cmriverside

I'm thinking, every time I see a diet thread, I'm going to bump this thread. Who's with me?

atomdraco

bump

cmriverside

Today's addition "The 400 calorie fix". There is a lot of them!



I mean, bump

flausa

People keep asking me what I've been doing to lose weight, I'm going to start telling them about the Human Diet. I'll let them know it costs a fortune, but I'll give them a reduce rate if they want tips from me. It certainly would be more entertaining than telling them I'm eating less, but eating healthier and exercising more effectively and it hasn't cost me a darn thing, to which without fail, they respond with a very disappointed-sounding, "oh". :grumble:

crazymama2two

IMPOSSIBLE ... i MUST obsess and do everything wrong in order to feel like im doing it right otherwise i wouldnt have anything to ***** about

ladyhawk00

Bump

SHBoss1673

People keep asking me what I've been doing to lose weight, I'm going to start telling them about the Human Diet. I'll let them know it costs a fortune, but I'll give them a reduce rate if they want tips from me. It certainly would be more entertaining than telling them I'm eating less, but eating healthier and exercising more effectively and it hasn't cost me a darn thing, to which without fail, they respond with a very disappointed-sounding, "oh". :grumble:

you can tell them to send money to my paypal account, and I'll give them the plan.

I never turn down free money.

blackchickbb

sounds realistic,will do just that

Mindful_Trent

Bump!

msh0530

I do like this post. When people ask me how I am losing weight, and I tell them basically eating healthier and moving more, they always seem so disappointed . . .

Mindful_Trent

I have the perfect "supplement' to go with this diet!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/236098-great-low-cost-weight-loss-supplement

SHBoss1673

I have the perfect "supplement' to go with this diet!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/236098-great-low-cost-weight-loss-supplement

lol, nice!

SHBoss1673

bumping, cuz as always, I've seen a bunch of "diet" posts today.

bethikabob

<---Is madly in love with this post... BUMP! lol

SHBoss1673

thanks beth!

bump for another diet post.