Stupidest diet myths/tips you have ever heard.
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"I am not going to pass on an apple and sit down to a plate full of bacon."
Yea, that is what a low carb. diet is all about. Maybe you need more carbs. For that brain you were talking about.
My brains are confused... where did I say all people doing low carb eat plates of bacon and pass on apples? Your low carb diet may not be all about that. I would hope that most weren't. But there are some that do... they do pass on the fruits and the veggies and eat the plateful of steak and bacon.
How many brains do you have?
All of them.
Well that would explain a lot....can I please have mine back??
Sorry - nope. I am on the zombie diet. I stock up on brains. High protein... low carb.
But I needz it :sad:0 -
To take this in a different direction:
'Back in the day' I had a friend that refused to have ice cubes in any of her beverages b/c she had been told that ice makes you gain weight.
I read that by drinking iced water instead of tepid water you can lose 1 lb per year from the extra calories you burn warming the water. Just 7 more years till I'm at my goal weight. Sweet!!0 -
I realize that I don't gain as much as I would if I weren't at a deficit... My problem is with blanket statements that say "no one can do this"... there are exceptions to everything... :-D
Totally agree with this... I've lost 117 lbs (on a 1200 calorie diet). I had almost no muscle tone when I started, and have MUCH larger and stronger muscles now... I get that it's probably because I had so little muscle to begin with, but some people CAN build muscle on a deficit!!You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
Nope, you can just actually see the muscle after losing the fat
Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?
Yes look up, I think it's called "Burn fat and build muscle" somthing like that, anyhow, if you are burning fat as part of your calories being used to build muscle it can be done.
If you are morbidly obese yes because you are using fat stores as energy (calories) to build some muscle, but the gains are still VERY minimal.0 -
Totally agree with this... I've lost 117 lbs (on a 1200 calorie diet). I had almost no muscle tone when I started, and have MUCH larger and stronger muscles now... I get that it's probably because I had so little muscle to begin with, but some people CAN build muscle on a deficit!!You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
Nope, you can just actually see the muscle after losing the fat
Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?
By that logic everyone would lose all their muscle before fat? I don't care what people think I know what I've experienced. I can lift weights that are twice what I could in January. I have been weight training. I can do squats and lunges until I'm bored (without weights - they're in some of my videos).. so IMO this is just false. I'm also a science major and I've taken various biochemistry courses.. very little is set in stone.. this probably has a lot to do with genetics and diet
Strength gains are not the same as muscle gains.
Neural adaptations play a huge role in strength.0 -
Totally agree with this... I've lost 117 lbs (on a 1200 calorie diet). I had almost no muscle tone when I started, and have MUCH larger and stronger muscles now... I get that it's probably because I had so little muscle to begin with, but some people CAN build muscle on a deficit!!You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
Nope, you can just actually see the muscle after losing the fat
Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?
By that logic everyone would lose all their muscle before fat? I don't care what people think I know what I've experienced. I can lift weights that are twice what I could in January. I have been weight training. I can do squats and lunges until I'm bored (without weights - they're in some of my videos).. so IMO this is just false. I'm also a science major and I've taken various biochemistry courses.. very little is set in stone.. this probably has a lot to do with genetics and diet
I am currently on a cut, and I'm gaining strength but not building muscle. The strength gains are minimal, but they are still gains. Building new muscle tissue comes from:
1. Calorie surplus
2. Being morbidly obese and using fat stores as energy (calories) to build minimal tissue.
3. Beginner lifting (newbie gains) or returning to weight training after a long break. (Also minimal gains)
4. Steroids
Period.0 -
someone once told me that counting calories, portion control, healthy eating, and regular exercise would give results. eff that sheizer! i'm drinking pregnant women pee instead.
Lmao0 -
gotta say HCG probably takes the cake for me.
Agree with this one. My aunt did it, and I'm not sure how she's keeping it off, but my sis is considering it. I don't want to take any drugs on this journey. Keep it as natural as possible.0 -
Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?
I am not a biochemist, but here's the biochemistry-for-dummies version that my doctor gave me: the chemical reaction that burns fatty acids also requires amino acids which are found in protein. The basic rough equation is three parts fat to one part protein. So if you eat a calorie deficit, you are forcing your body to get the energy it needs by burning both stored fat and protein. But it will burn through the fat at a faster rate than the protein, just because of the nature of the chemical reaction & how it works. So if you eat a large enough percentage of protein, you can take in a calorie deficit and still have protein left over, for your body to use to build muscle.
"The RD’s will tell you that protein has four calories per gram, so when you figure your daily intake, budget calories accordingly. But protein is used by the body mostly for maintaining structure and function. Yes, it can be burned as fuel, but really only as a secondary source, and even then, it must be converted to glucose to be utilized. So, depending on the need within the body, the first 10, 20 or 30 grams of protein might go towards repair and growth – not energy. Do we therefore discount those first 30 grams when we “count calories?” Depends..."
More info here, if anyone is interested:
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-context-of-calories/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3M75cYpx2w 0 -
Bumping because I know this will make me super happy to read tonight after a few alcoholic beverages....0
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Totally agree with this... I've lost 117 lbs (on a 1200 calorie diet). I had almost no muscle tone when I started, and have MUCH larger and stronger muscles now... I get that it's probably because I had so little muscle to begin with, but some people CAN build muscle on a deficit!!You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
Nope, you can just actually see the muscle after losing the fat
Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?
By that logic everyone would lose all their muscle before fat? I don't care what people think I know what I've experienced. I can lift weights that are twice what I could in January. I have been weight training. I can do squats and lunges until I'm bored (without weights - they're in some of my videos).. so IMO this is just false. I'm also a science major and I've taken various biochemistry courses.. very little is set in stone.. this probably has a lot to do with genetics and diet
I am currently on a cut, and I'm gaining strength but not building muscle. The strength gains are minimal, but they are still gains. Building new muscle tissue comes from:
1. Calorie surplus
2. Being morbidly obese and using fat stores as energy (calories) to build minimal tissue.
3. Beginner lifting (newbie gains) or returning to weight training after a long break. (Also minimal gains)
4. Steroids
Period.
^^ THIS... 100%0 -
So if you eat a large enough percentage of protein, you can take in a calorie deficit and still have protein left over, for your body to use to build muscle.
If you are eating a deficit, then there is nothing left over. That's what the word "deficit" means!0 -
First of all.....................Stupidest isnt a word..... lol
To answer your question:
Eliminating carbs entirely is a best practice..... MmmmHmm Sure it is.
You can gain muscle over night...
Soda is acceptable as long as its *diet*.....
Diet pills work.............
It doesnt matter WHERE my calories come from as long as Im under...
You dont have to exercise..................
I can eat *healthy* at Mcdonalds..................... Going to McDonalds for a salad is like going to a *kitten* for a hug.... Riiiight...
Actually, it doesn't matter where your calories come from as long as you're under and you hit your macros (fat, carbs and proteins). I don't exclude any food from my diet. Now I'm not advocating eating McDonald's every day but I do eat it. You've got to have fun with it too. All of this extreme clean eating sounds a lot like orthorexia to me.
So............... I can eat ONLY Ice cream sundae's every single day for the rest of my life and be ripped............. As long as I stay under my calorie goal for the day? Mmmm Nope. Im not saying you have to eat squeaky clean every single day- but for general health it DOES matter WHAT you eat.
Way to twist around what she said.
My words were twisted in the first place. I never said "extreme clean eating" was the answer or the only way to be. I futher never said that you have to "exclude" foods from your diet. It is a fact that to be HEALTHY it does matter WHAT you eat- period. I never referred to "losing weight".
Right, but this thread refers to "diet" myths not healthy eating myths, in case you missed that, and you can successfully diet and eat 'forbidden' foods.0 -
Yup, I knew this was gonna be good...0
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Yup, I knew this was gonna be good...
Can you go refill the popcorn?0 -
I'm still reeling from someone saying that "stupidest" isn't a word. :huh:0
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Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?
So if you eat a large enough percentage of protein, you can take in a calorie deficit and still have protein left over, for your body to use to build muscle.
Nope. You think that if I ate 300g of protein, but am only eating 1200 calories a day when my TDEE is 3500-4000 that I'm going to build muscle?
Hello bartender? I'll have what she's ^^ having please.0 -
Yup, I knew this was gonna be good...
Can you go refill the popcorn?
Hell no! Don't you know that it has carbs in it? Haven't you been listening?!?!..see how I made it more emphatic with punctuation like that? *nods*0 -
The number one all time stupid myth: YOU NEED CARBS FOR ENERGY.
Amen. Do they give you energy? Yes. Do you NEED them in order to have energy? No.
This ^
And another stupid myth: YOUR BRAIN NEEDS CARBS. WRONG! YOUR BRAIN NEEDS FAT!!0 -
Totally agree with this... I've lost 117 lbs (on a 1200 calorie diet). I had almost no muscle tone when I started, and have MUCH larger and stronger muscles now... I get that it's probably because I had so little muscle to begin with, but some people CAN build muscle on a deficit!!You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
Nope, you can just actually see the muscle after losing the fat
Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?
By that logic everyone would lose all their muscle before fat? I don't care what people think I know what I've experienced. I can lift weights that are twice what I could in January. I have been weight training. I can do squats and lunges until I'm bored (without weights - they're in some of my videos).. so IMO this is just false. I'm also a science major and I've taken various biochemistry courses.. very little is set in stone.. this probably has a lot to do with genetics and diet
I am currently on a cut, and I'm gaining strength but not building muscle. The strength gains are minimal, but they are still gains. Building new muscle tissue comes from:
1. Calorie surplus
2. Being morbidly obese and using fat stores as energy (calories) to build minimal tissue.
3. Beginner lifting (newbie gains) or returning to weight training after a long break. (Also minimal gains)
4. Steroids
Period.
^^This is the best answer I've seen yet I think!0 -
You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
My doc has a device that accurately measures your percentages of body fat vs. water vs. muscle etc. He tests me every time I come in. In the past 7 months, I have consistently lost 6-7 lb of fat & water weight per month, and gained 1 lb of muscle per month. So you're absolutely right, and yes, I have proof that you CAN build muscle while losing weight on a calorie deficit.
If you are gaining 1lb of muscle a month as a female, then I'm Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Please stop with this nonsense, and git to tha choppa.
Ha,
can I have your autograph?0 -
You will build a muscle layer over fat and not burn it, it will be trapped under that muscle. Really??? Um, no.0
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So, let me see if I have this right.
I can't build muscle on a calorie deficit. Except that I can under certain conditions. So I can't, but I can.
Muscle does not weigh more than fat, but a scale will tell me it does if I put the same amount of each on it. Which sounds like it weighs more, but it really doesn't weigh more. Nothing weighs more than anything else because a pound is a pound, and if you live outside the US you are just SOL for not having a scale that measures in pounds.0 -
"I am not going to pass on an apple and sit down to a plate full of bacon."
Yea, that is what a low carb. diet is all about. Maybe you need more carbs. For that brain you were talking about.
Obviously you have no idea what a low carb diet is or these comments would not be stated.
A low carb lifestyle consists of eating WHOLE foods in the form of proteins, fats, vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds. Some low / controlled carb lifestyles such as Atkins you will add back in dairy, grains, legumes later as you move up the carb ladder.
Please stop with the nonsense or it will be reported, the smart alleck comments are not going to be tolerated as there are MANY of us here that are on Low Carb Lifestyle plans because we have PCOS, Diabetes, Thyroid disorders or even epilepsy.
Stop making the comments to put others down, especially when you are spouting a bunch of nonsense.
I was not clear in my original post - I was aiming that statement at super low carb and no-carb diets. I think we all struggle to find that right balance of macro nutrients that satisfies us, keeps us healthy and helps us lose. Low carb works great for a lot of people... what scares me is when people talk about eating absolutley no carbs. Or limiting carbs so low that it may as well be none.
For the record - I did not spout nonsese. I said I will not pass on an apple to sit down to a plate full of bacon. That is just something I am not going to do. I would feel ill afterwords and I am just not going to do it. I have read diets that recommended high amounts of fatty protein and forbids fruits b/c of the carbs. That has absolutley nothing to do with what you eat. I have no idea what you eat. There are a lot of people out there who think low carb means bacon instead of apples - THOSE are the people I was knocking. NOT YOU. And CERTAINLY not anyone with "PCOS, Diabetes, Thyroid disorders or even epilepsy." Good grief!
I thought this was supposed to be a thread about silly things people had heard. Passing on apples to eat bacon IS silly.0 -
First of all.....................Stupidest isnt a word..... lol
To answer your question:
Eliminating carbs entirely is a best practice..... MmmmHmm Sure it is.
You can gain muscle over night...
Soda is acceptable as long as its *diet*.....
Diet pills work.............
It doesnt matter WHERE my calories come from as long as Im under...
You dont have to exercise..................
I can eat *healthy* at Mcdonalds..................... Going to McDonalds for a salad is like going to a *kitten* for a hug.... Riiiight...
Actually, it doesn't matter where your calories come from as long as you're under and you hit your macros (fat, carbs and proteins). I don't exclude any food from my diet. Now I'm not advocating eating McDonald's every day but I do eat it. You've got to have fun with it too. All of this extreme clean eating sounds a lot like orthorexia to me.
So............... I can eat ONLY Ice cream sundae's every single day for the rest of my life and be ripped............. As long as I stay under my calorie goal for the day? Mmmm Nope. Im not saying you have to eat squeaky clean every single day- but for general health it DOES matter WHAT you eat.
ACTUALLY THIS IS CORRECT.
Michael Phelps is a great example. He consumes 12,000 calories a day. His metabolic rate is so high he burns whatever he eats. Would I try this? Heck no! But my son is like this. He's 21 and has been swimming since he was 5. He's always been ripped to shreds.
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Michael-Phelps-eats-12-000-calories-per-day?urn=oly-100671
Wed Aug 13 09:15pm EDT
Michael Phelps eats 12,000 calories per day
By Chris Chase
After he retires from swimming, Michael Phelps might want to try his hand at competitive eating. The Olympic star recently said he consumes 12,000 calories per day, or 9,500 more than the FDA recommends for an active, young male.
Phelps has to keep his intake up in order to compensate for all the calories he burns during the 30-hours per week he spends in training. He told NBC that an average day might have the following menu:
Breakfast: 3 fried egg sandwiches, 2 cups coffee, 5-egg omlette, bowl of grits, 3 pieces of french toast, 3 chocolate chip pancakes
Lunch: 1 pound pasta, 2 ham and cheese sandwiches, energy drink (1,000 calorie)
Dinner: 1 pound pasta, 1 large pizza, energy drink (1,000 calorie)
Three years ago, Phelps told an interviewer:
I eat pretty much whatever I want. I don't have a strict diet. It's all about cramming in as many calories into my system as I possibly can. To be honest with you, I have a tough time keeping weight on.
Michael better be careful there. There's no surer way to turn new female fans into former female fans than by complaining about how hard it is to keep on weight.
Photo via Getty Images
SO ITS not FOR EVERYONE BUT IT IS POSSIBLE..UNLESS YOU THINK MICHAEL PHELPS IS FAT!0 -
The number one all time stupid myth: YOU NEED CARBS FOR ENERGY.
Amen. Do they give you energy? Yes. Do you NEED them in order to have energy? No.
This ^
And another stupid myth: YOUR BRAIN NEEDS CARBS. WRONG! YOUR BRAIN NEEDS FAT!!
You couldn't be more wrong.
Your brain does not need fat at all, in fact it can only use ketone bodies for up to 70% of its energy needs. This ONLY happens if glucose is unavailable.0 -
"I am not going to pass on an apple and sit down to a plate full of bacon."
Yea, that is what a low carb. diet is all about. Maybe you need more carbs. For that brain you were talking about.
My brains are confused... where did I say all people doing low carb eat plates of bacon and pass on apples? Your low carb diet may not be all about that. I would hope that most weren't. But there are some that do... they do pass on the fruits and the veggies and eat the plateful of steak and bacon.
How many brains do you have?
All of them.
Well that would explain a lot....can I please have mine back??
Sorry - nope. I am on the zombie diet. I stock up on brains. High protein... low carb.
But I needz it :sad:
I can't figure out how to post pictures... ~sigh~ I picked out a nice Zombie wanting brains...0 -
Nope, you can just actually see the muscle after losing the fat
Totally agree with this... I've lost 117 lbs (on a 1200 calorie diet). I had almost no muscle tone when I started, and have MUCH larger and stronger muscles now... I get that it's probably because I had so little muscle to begin with, but some people CAN build muscle on a deficit!!You can't build muscle on a calorie deficit.. Really? I've been eating at a calorie deficit for most of this year and I can sure as sh** lift heavier weights.. I've also lost 18 pounds.
Yeah i dont think you can build muscle at a dificit, although thats my opinion. Im simply thinking about it in this way: Muscle burns more calories than fat and therefore needs more calories to stay intact..? any opinions?
By that logic everyone would lose all their muscle before fat? I don't care what people think I know what I've experienced. I can lift weights that are twice what I could in January. I have been weight training. I can do squats and lunges until I'm bored (without weights - they're in some of my videos).. so IMO this is just false. I'm also a science major and I've taken various biochemistry courses.. very little is set in stone.. this probably has a lot to do with genetics and diet
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I'm still reeling from someone saying that "stupidest" isn't a word. :huh:
So is it a word? Because the person who said it made me feel stupid for using the word in my topic lol0 -
Obviously you have no idea what a low carb diet is or these comments would not be stated.
A low carb lifestyle consists of eating WHOLE foods in the form of proteins, fats, vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds. Some low / controlled carb lifestyles such as Atkins you will add back in dairy, grains, legumes later as you move up the carb ladder.
I have no problem with anyone eating whatever diet they want, including low carb. But to suggest that everyone eating a low carb diet eats WHOLE foods is not true. There are plenty of non-whole food low carb options out there and people eat them. Atkins has a whole line of low carb processed foods.0
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