Chris Brown- Have you forgiven him?
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Since he didnt beat me i dont think i have to forgive him. Yes, i listened to his music before and after the rihanna incident (not a die hard fan but yes ill blast it if i like the song), the same way i listened to rihanna's. We socialize with people every day that we have no idea if they are abusive or even murderers in their personal life but since he is a celebrity everyone has to know his business and have a opinion on it. He did something wrong... he and rihanna are moving on with their lives so why would i sit here and hate him for something that has nothing to do with me?? Music is music im not interested in either of their life stories to listen to their music.0
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VICK paid for his crime....y'all just mad because he's getting paid and you're not hahahaha0
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It has nothing to do with him personally. He is a talented kid. None of us were there to witness what happened between him and Rhiana..... So how do we know it was not one of Hollywoods attention getting schemes...I think that if he would have really done something that JayZ would have ended his career. Oh yes and the head of the Music mafia could have pulled that off. Also, She makes a video on how she likes things rough not long after this mess happened...Things that make you go hmmmmmm?
There is a big difference between liking things rough and getting the beating that she took. Let's not blame the victim.0 -
Just a question.....For the people that have not forgiven him, What should we do? Cast him away so that he should never be seen again????
Well, don't give him a Grammy, that's for sure.
But why? He's a musician that made music people loved.0 -
Because a Grammy should represent the life he lived, not the music he made.Just a question.....For the people that have not forgiven him, What should we do? Cast him away so that he should never be seen again????
Well, don't give him a Grammy, that's for sure.
But why? He's a musician that made music people loved.
I wonder if any rap star that won a grammy actually killed someone. They certainly rapped about it enough...at least the old school rap I grew up on.0 -
Glad you guys aren't GOd. He was a child and they make mistakes and she wasn't innocent either. Yes he is forgiven.
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Personally I've seen two different sides of domestic violence. One is the side where someone is just overly aggressive (and some people are, both male and female) and another is the side that no one ever likes to admit, the person who is constantly harrassed and provoked until they snap. I have WITNESSED first hand a person being provoked, by a woman, trying to get a reaction. It was disgusting. And everyone can argue that a "man should never hit a woman ever" but if I had someone practically climbing up my back after I repeatedly asked them to get away from me, warned them numerous times, and tried to walk away over and over and I finally lost my cool, I would feel it was justified.
Everyone argues that "real men don't hit women" ... Well real women don't feel the need to pester, hit, annoying, harrass, etc until they get slapped. I literally watched an arguement between an aquaintance and his girlfriend once, he repeated to her several times to leave him alone, she was behind him chasing him smacking him in the back on the head, screaming at him, cursing him out, practically on his back while he was trying to get away from her. Finally after he'd gotten sick of her **** (rightfully so) he turned around and slapped her. She was acting so ridiculous. She turns around and acts like he's an abuser and calls the cops. I'm not saying its the same thing, but some women don't know when to quit either and thats coming from a woman. We can't all cry foul and play victim.
Obviously, you have never been a victim of domestic violence. By justifying his behavior, you have given him permission to behave that way for less. Next time, she might just say the wrong thing and he will feel the need to put her in her place.0 -
VICK paid for his crime....y'all just mad because he's getting paid and you're not hahahaha
No. I really dislike the things he did.0 -
Jesus has forgiven him too. It's a package deal.Glad you guys aren't GOd. He was a child and they make mistakes and she wasn't innocent either. Yes he is forgiven.
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Who's Chris Brown?
Just kidding. He was young. He made a mistake. I hope he has changed, learned and never makes the same mistake again.
I have never bullied another person and I have no respect for someone who does, but, since it's not my daughter he beat, he gets another chance. Hope he makes the best of it and becomes a better person.
A lot of people probably believe he got off easy because of his celebrity. Maybe he did; maybe he didn't, but his career definitely sufffered. Let him move on.
Beating your girlfriend to the point where she goes to the hospital isn't "mistake" it is a serious crime and should have been handled that way. A mistake is getting on the wrong bus, using salt instead of sugar, or misplacing a decimal point. BEATING your girlfriend until she needs to go to the hospital is NOT a mistake. He didn't "bully" her he BEAT her. He BEAT a woman, why should his career go on at all? Why can't we as a society see that behavior and get livid, and DO something, SHOW people that they can't BEAT THEIR GIRLFRIENDS and still be successful.
Did you know that girls were tweeting about letting him beat them during the grammy's? This acceptance is going to become a social norm that will end in increased domestic violence and more women dying at the hands of their abusive partners.
As for Rihana forgiving him, until you've been in an abusive relationship/or abused or at least studied the psychology of it, shut up.
Just because he didn't beat us doesn't mean that we have to/should forgive him. He BEAT another person, a human being. That is not okay and to just brush it off only says that women don't deserve to live life without getting beating. THAT is the message and lesson you teach when you say that.0 -
Just a question.....For the people that have not forgiven him, What should we do? Cast him away so that he should never be seen again????
Well, don't give him a Grammy, that's for sure.
But why? He's a musician that made music people loved.
^Thank you!!!0 -
Quite honestly he doesn't need my forgivness. It's not for me to judge what he did, or didn't do. See the only people know what went down is the two people that were there and those are the only ones who really need to worry about it. If he did (and yes I said if), since she seems to have forgiven, who am I to say otherwise?0
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Mistake? He beat the living hell out of her. Once a beater always a beater.Glad you guys aren't GOd. He was a child and they make mistakes and she wasn't innocent either. Yes he is forgiven.0 -
Thank you type, you said this better then i ever couldWho's Chris Brown?
Just kidding. He was young. He made a mistake. I hope he has changed, learned and never makes the same mistake again.
I have never bullied another person and I have no respect for someone who does, but, since it's not my daughter he beat, he gets another chance. Hope he makes the best of it and becomes a better person.
A lot of people probably believe he got off easy because of his celebrity. Maybe he did; maybe he didn't, but his career definitely sufffered. Let him move on.
Beating your girlfriend to the point where she goes to the hospital isn't "mistake" it is a serious crime and should have been handled that way. A mistake is getting on the wrong bus, using salt instead of sugar, or misplacing a decimal point. BEATING your girlfriend until she needs to go to the hospital is NOT a mistake. He didn't "bully" her he BEAT her. He BEAT a woman, why should his career go on at all? Why can't we as a society see that behavior and get livid, and DO something, SHOW people that they can't BEAT THEIR GIRLFRIENDS and still be successful.
Did you know that girls were tweeting about letting him beat them during the grammy's? This acceptance is going to become a social norm that will end in increased domestic violence and more women dying at the hands of their abusive partners.
As for Rihana forgiving him, until you've been in an abusive relationship/or abused or at least studied the psychology of it, shut up.
Just because he didn't beat us doesn't mean that we have to/should forgive him. He BEAT another person, a human being. That is not okay and to just brush it off only says that women don't deserve to live life without getting beating. THAT is the message and lesson you teach when you say that.0 -
Actually I don't think you understand the psychology of being an abused woman if you think that b/c she had money she could have left anytime.While I understand the psychology of being an abused woman and I don't think Rihanna deserved what happened to her (and I don't see that Brown is all that sorry about it, either), I want to make this point, since others compared this to Michael Vick:
Rihanna was an ADULT woman with a LOT of money and resources who could have left that relationship any time she wanted to (does anyone believe the day he got caught was the first time it happened?). The dogs Vick victimized were truly helpless and at his mercy, tied up, kept in cages and had no resources or anyone to help them.
Brown, while wrong on so many levels, lashed out in anger. Vick and his pals enjoyed to pain they inflicted.0 -
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Who's Chris Brown?
Just kidding. He was young. He made a mistake. I hope he has changed, learned and never makes the same mistake again.
I have never bullied another person and I have no respect for someone who does, but, since it's not my daughter he beat, he gets another chance. Hope he makes the best of it and becomes a better person.
A lot of people probably believe he got off easy because of his celebrity. Maybe he did; maybe he didn't, but his career definitely sufffered. Let him move on.
Beating your girlfriend to the point where she goes to the hospital isn't "mistake" it is a serious crime and should have been handled that way. A mistake is getting on the wrong bus, using salt instead of sugar, or misplacing a decimal point. BEATING your girlfriend until she needs to go to the hospital is NOT a mistake. He didn't "bully" her he BEAT her. He BEAT a woman, why should his career go on at all? Why can't we as a society see that behavior and get livid, and DO something, SHOW people that they can't BEAT THEIR GIRLFRIENDS and still be successful.
Did you know that girls were tweeting about letting him beat them during the grammy's? This acceptance is going to become a social norm that will end in increased domestic violence and more women dying at the hands of their abusive partners.
As for Rihana forgiving him, until you've been in an abusive relationship/or abused or at least studied the psychology of it, shut up.
Just because he didn't beat us doesn't mean that we have to/should forgive him. He BEAT another person, a human being. That is not okay and to just brush it off only says that women don't deserve to live life without getting beating. THAT is the message and lesson you teach when you say that.
I disagree and I am a victim of domestic violence. His celebrity status does not give you the right to judge him. Those who have the right to judge him already have. If you personally don't care for him, then don't buy his music. However, buying his music would not mean that you are condoning his behavior. It just means that you like his music. I don't think buying his music is going to mean that more women will get beaten. He has the right to make a living in any way that he can.0 -
It is a big uproar about Chris Brown and being forgiven. Hell the dumb a** former governor of Mississippi pardoned murderers, and drunk drivers who killed innocent people. Talk about forgiving. Rhianna is still alive. Chris Brown can't be forgiven but, a system can free those who took lives. Some of us have our priority in the wrong place.
Are you freakin' serious? No one on here condoned the governor of Mississippi for his actions. This thread is about Chris Brown - you want to talk about ALL that is wrong in the world then open a new thread.0 -
Rihanna was an ADULT woman with a LOT of money and resources who could have left that relationship any time she wanted to (does anyone believe the day he got caught was the first time it happened?).
victim-blaming on the first page! super, my rape culture bingo card is already filled up. why did i click on this thread. imma stop reading now. */inb4 'don't like, don't read'0 -
I have zero respect for a guy that hits a woman....period.0
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Was not even blaming the victim, Just like I said....NONE of us were there. There is only one judge and I dont hold the gavel.0
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Not forgiving Chris Brown and others who committ crime against women means that you are carrying around a lot of baggage. I would not be able to carry on with my life if I didn't forgive people for the things they do. If murderers can be pardon, why in the hell can't Chris Brown catch a break? IJS0
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HIPPO (Happily Ignoring Previous Posters Opinions)
He hasn't done anything to me and he will never have a direct impact on my life... so there is nothing for me to forgive... that is between him and his past, present and future relationships. I don't listen to his music anyway, so he hasn't lost a fan or customer.0 -
Rihanna was an ADULT woman with a LOT of money and resources who could have left that relationship any time she wanted to (does anyone believe the day he got caught was the first time it happened?).
victim-blaming on the first page! super, my rape culture bingo card is already filled up. why did i click on this thread. imma stop reading now. */inb4 'don't like, don't read'
Ummmm ... did you actually READ my post or take into consideration that I was responding to the comparison of Chris Brown to Michael Vick? I didn't blame the victim. I was pointing out why I don't think one was worse than the other.
But if you'd rather make an argument about something you took entirely out of context, then carry on amusing yourself.0 -
Mistake? He beat the living hell out of her. Once a beater always a beater.Glad you guys aren't GOd. He was a child and they make mistakes and she wasn't innocent either. Yes he is forgiven.
do you not believe people can change?0 -
Who's Chris Brown?
Just kidding. He was young. He made a mistake. I hope he has changed, learned and never makes the same mistake again.
I have never bullied another person and I have no respect for someone who does, but, since it's not my daughter he beat, he gets another chance. Hope he makes the best of it and becomes a better person.
A lot of people probably believe he got off easy because of his celebrity. Maybe he did; maybe he didn't, but his career definitely sufffered. Let him move on.
Beating your girlfriend to the point where she goes to the hospital isn't "mistake" it is a serious crime and should have been handled that way. A mistake is getting on the wrong bus, using salt instead of sugar, or misplacing a decimal point. BEATING your girlfriend until she needs to go to the hospital is NOT a mistake. He didn't "bully" her he BEAT her. He BEAT a woman, why should his career go on at all? Why can't we as a society see that behavior and get livid, and DO something, SHOW people that they can't BEAT THEIR GIRLFRIENDS and still be successful.
Did you know that girls were tweeting about letting him beat them during the grammy's? This acceptance is going to become a social norm that will end in increased domestic violence and more women dying at the hands of their abusive partners.
As for Rihana forgiving him, until you've been in an abusive relationship/or abused or at least studied the psychology of it, shut up.
Just because he didn't beat us doesn't mean that we have to/should forgive him. He BEAT another person, a human being. That is not okay and to just brush it off only says that women don't deserve to live life without getting beating. THAT is the message and lesson you teach when you say that.
I disagree and I am a victim of domestic violence. His celebrity status does not give you the right to judge him. Those who have the right to judge him already have. If you personally don't care for him, then don't buy his music. However, buying his music would not mean that you are condoning his behavior. It just means that you like his music. I don't think buying his music is going to mean that more women will get beaten. He has the right to make a living in any way that he can.
^So true. I wonder if a camera was played back over our lives would people forgive us for some of the things we did or said. Wait I forgot we aren't celebrities so we live perfect lives, silly me!!!0 -
His more recent behaviour on some talk show where he threw things around and then walked out makes me think he hasn't changed all that much.
Mistake? He beat the living hell out of her. Once a beater always a beater.Glad you guys aren't GOd. He was a child and they make mistakes and she wasn't innocent either. Yes he is forgiven.
do you not believe people can change?0 -
It has nothing to do with him personally. He is a talented kid. None of us were there to witness what happened between him and Rhiana..... So how do we know it was not one of Hollywoods attention getting schemes...I think that if he would have really done something that JayZ would have ended his career. Oh yes and the head of the Music mafia could have pulled that off. Also, She makes a video on how she likes things rough not long after this mess happened...Things that make you go hmmmmmm?
I tried to make this point earlier but a couple of rude posters turned my statement into an immature joke. I agree, we were not there, hitting a woman is never right but hollywood has it's ways of getting out attention with scandles. If he did it shame on him aplologize and don't do it again.0 -
These people are only as famous and rich as we make them.
Celeb's in general are a gloomy lot. Their lives are just miserable.
Brown is no worse than the rest of those sub-human vermin.0 -
Actually I don't think you understand the psychology of being an abused woman if you think that b/c she had money she could have left anytime.While I understand the psychology of being an abused woman and I don't think Rihanna deserved what happened to her (and I don't see that Brown is all that sorry about it, either), I want to make this point, since others compared this to Michael Vick:
Rihanna was an ADULT woman with a LOT of money and resources who could have left that relationship any time she wanted to (does anyone believe the day he got caught was the first time it happened?). The dogs Vick victimized were truly helpless and at his mercy, tied up, kept in cages and had no resources or anyone to help them.
Brown, while wrong on so many levels, lashed out in anger. Vick and his pals enjoyed to pain they inflicted.
Yes, actually I do. But can you really argue that she was as trapped as those animals? Nope.0
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