People who have pro-anorexia profiles
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So please, nobody suggest we just ignore them when we can do something to help them.
Absolutely agree.
There is absolutely nothing any of us can do to help.0 -
Wow! May be you should stay off her and her friends profile.
I agree with this. Why do you care what their profiles say. How does that impact you and your weightloss?
Because she's concerned about other human beings.
I recently read an article about the increase in pro-ana/ pro-mia activity online. The piece specifically mentioned MFP as a tool these folks use to spread their message and keep track of their calories. If we don't want the site's reputation to tank, and perhaps risk getting it shut down, we should all care about these profiles.0 -
This was really bad. Her goals were to have a sunken in face, have no boobs because they are fat, and have 0% body fat etc. Just disgusting!
are you sure it wasn't just a troll trying to get attention... how can we know for sure that the person was really promoting this. i guess we will never know so probably just telling a moderator makes the most sense. but i can see how trolls might find this funny... i agree with you about the seriousness of it i just wonder how you'd really know if they are for real or not.0 -
Is there a way to "report" people's profiles who are advocating anorexia on mfp?
Yes, and I do often.
Send Steven a link to their profile. Put Pro-ANA in the subject line. He's very diligent about responding.
And before anyone jumps in my *kitten* about it... there is a difference between working toward recovery and promoting it!
I'm recovered from bulimia but relapse sometimes, and find support from my friends on here. Should I be banned too?0 -
This was really bad. Her goals were to have a sunken in face, have no boobs because they are fat, and have 0% body fat etc. Just disgusting!
So her goal was to be dead? That's really sad.
Did she ask you to go on her profile? Did she ask you to become anorexic with her? Did she ask you to check out her friends? If not, then it's not really your place to report it. She wasn't pushing it on you. I'm pro-eating...a lot....even junk food. Should I be banned?
HAHA, I'm pro-eating a lot as well! I made my food diary private because some of my contacts were commenting negatively on the fact that I had a cookie or one of those 90 cal Fiber One brownies, or some kind of goody with my coffee every day. I call that healthy since I wasn't depriving myself and satisfying my enormous sweet tooth, they called it "not being serious about your health journey." It's all about perception, really.0 -
I do agree that it is abusing the tools of MFP, but it also MIGHT influence some people to get healthy. I've also encountered people with ED's that are here to get healthy.
I never used calorie counting with an ED, simply because I ate once every three days...so if they're actually here they probably have a chance of recovery.0 -
I used to suffer from eating disorders and go on pro-anorexic sites for tips and ideas. I was hospitalized, medicated, and even almost had a feeding tube shoved up my nose (if that doesn't make you start to eat, I don't know what will), but honestly, the sites didn't make me anorexic or bulimic or any sicker than I already was. It was actually comforting to know that there were others out there like me--sick as we all were. I certainly don't think it's appropriate to have pro-eating disorder sites or topics here at MFP, but I also wouldn't worry about getting them kicked off MFP or getting their profiles deleted. They aren't going to "give" someone an eating disorder that doesn't already have one or won't already get one at some point.
Eating disorders (especially the "pro-ana/mia" community) have nothing to do with food or weight, and everything to do with control, manipulation, low self-esteem, insecurity, fear, and rebellion. It's very sad, but it's also not going to hurt anyone who isn't already hurting. Getting their profiles deleted would probably just fuel the fire for them to keep doing what they're doing.
It's just a shame a place that is for health and fitness is polluted with such sick people... but so is the workplace, the mall, the gym, school and every where else.
I'm just so grateful that I have made it to the other side.
This is the best post in this thread.
You are awesome. If this was Reddit I would gift you Reddit gold for this post. :flowerforyou: <--- But since it's MFP that's the best I can do. lol 0 -
I think we should ban people who pass judgment on others.
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I know we arent friends on here, but I never make it to 1000 calories a day. I dont have an ED, I used to but not anymore. I just find it hard to get those calories up when I'm not that hungry, I'm not going to force myself to eat just to make it to my recommended 1200 a day. I'm sure there are others on here who are similar...0
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:drinker:I think we should ban people who pass judgment on others.
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I have no idea, but there has to be a way. I routinely delete friends who do not eat 1000 calories a day.
Sorry, that was supposed to be in my reply above0 -
Is there a way to "report" people's profiles who are advocating anorexia on mfp?
Yes, and I do often.
Send Steven a link to their profile. Put Pro-ANA in the subject line. He's very diligent about responding.
And before anyone jumps in my *kitten* about it... there is a difference between working toward recovery and promoting it!
^^This. There are site rules about promoting ana/mia. Steven is smart enough to figure out who is in recovery and who is promoting. From my experience, if you report someone Steven will then have a private conversation with them. They are not automatically deleted.
*Edited to add that I also have reported those who I have seen actively seeking out others with ED for the sole purpose of getting "tips" or ideas. I would never report someone just b/c I *think* they have a problem. THAT is most certainly none of my business.0 -
wow people on here are *kitten*. is it really necessary to jump down the op's throat wtf0
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Is there a way to "report" people's profiles who are advocating anorexia on mfp?
Yes, and I do often.
Send Steven a link to their profile. Put Pro-ANA in the subject line. He's very diligent about responding.
And before anyone jumps in my *kitten* about it... there is a difference between working toward recovery and promoting it!
I'm recovered from bulimia but relapse sometimes, and find support from my friends on here. Should I be banned too?
Are you promoting bulimia as a way to lose weight? Read what she said before getting defensive.0 -
Just to throw this in here, I do still struggle with anorexia. A lot. I started to relapse about a week ago. My MFP account hadn't been touched for almost a month, and here I am today because my friends support me.
Also, she didn't say they were posting pro ED threads, just that their profiles had their goals set that way. I dunno. This is like who came first, the chicken or the egg?0 -
So please, nobody suggest we just ignore them when we can do something to help them.
Absolutely agree.
There is absolutely nothing any of us can do to help.
You're right... but we can prevent their influence from spreading. There are plenty of other places on the interwebz for people that DO NOT want to get better. They can go there.
This is a great place for people TRYING (and maybe not always succeeding) to get better. But promotion of wanting to see their spines and count their ribs has no place here.0 -
Okay, no one is "giving" someone else a disorder. You could always set a good example if you wanted to. I may not eat "clean" but I remain thin on over 2000 calories daily, maybe seeing that helps someone that's struggling. Hopefully it does.
Oh, after providing therapeutic yoga in several eating disorder programs I've made many lifelong friends in those communities. Some seem to promote it (even though they're supposedly "pro-recovery"), some don't, but they all seem to worry a lot less about food than we do here at MFP. Maybe the members bothering you just like the idea of being disordered? If so, once again, set the example. I don't believe you can do much more, just be there as a friend and accept them. 0 -
I think we should ban people who pass judgment on others.
This. Absolutely this.
Obviously there are rules and those who struggle with eating disorders and unhealthy eating habits don't necessarily coincide with these rules. However, is it justifiable to ban them simply because their goals are different than yours? They need help, just like the rest of us.
It is shameful to read these hateful comments. So shame on you.
If it really bothers one that bad, that obviously says a lot about that person's character and insecurities.
Grow up.
I'm not here to debate this any further and I will not be checking replies, because this argument is completely and undeniably insignificant.0 -
Look, it isn't about judging other people here and shouldn't be. You never know enough about another person or situation to pass judgment, however it is spelled out pretty clearly in the guidelines of MFP that pro-ana is not okay and is not what this site is about. I don't go snooping through other peoples profiles, but anyone starting a group or posting along the lines of pro-ana should expect to be kicked off.0
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I think as long as they are not actively trying to persuade another to become anorexic or giving tips, then leave them be. Worry about them, sure, but getting them banned/deleted etc. could have a serious negative impact on their lives and massively affect their future potential for recovery.0
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Agreed. She said it was her profile, not a thread. By the way, your dog is adorable LOL.Look, it isn't about judging other people here and shouldn't be. You never know enough about another person or situation to pass judgment, however it is spelled out pretty clearly in the guidelines of MFP that pro-ana is not okay and is not what this site is about. I don't go snooping through other peoples profiles, but anyone starting a group or posting along the lines of pro-ana should expect to be kicked off.0 -
Geez, if someone's ill we should ban them? What about the illness that causes people to become overweight? What about my depression? What about ANY other kind of physical or mental illness - is the point of this site really to block out people who need help?
Sometimes I feel like people need to stop focusing on their own health so much that they are rude to or think we should exclude people that they don't deem worthy of joining the journey. These people aren't hurting you unless you choose to interact with them and that affects you, and it's not going to help them to block them out of a healthy community, so why would you want to ban them? Disallowing posts that advocate unhealthy lifestyles is one thing, but trying to ban people because they struggle with their OWN lifestyle is a little heartless, isn't it? They are people too. Not so different from the rest of us.0 -
Anorexia is a body dysmorphic disorder, which means they do not see how they actually appear. Anorexia is a psychological illness which can lead to illness, and even death. They need help and counseling.0
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I used to suffer from eating disorders and go on pro-anorexic sites for tips and ideas. I was hospitalized, medicated, and even almost had a feeding tube shoved up my nose (if that doesn't make you start to eat, I don't know what will), but honestly, the sites didn't make me anorexic or bulimic or any sicker than I already was. It was actually comforting to know that there were others out there like me--sick as we all were. I certainly don't think it's appropriate to have pro-eating disorder sites or topics here at MFP, but I also wouldn't worry about getting them kicked off MFP or getting their profiles deleted. They aren't going to "give" someone an eating disorder that doesn't already have one or won't already get one at some point.
Eating disorders (especially the "pro-ana/mia" community) have nothing to do with food or weight, and everything to do with control, manipulation, low self-esteem, insecurity, fear, and rebellion. It's very sad, but it's also not going to hurt anyone who isn't already hurting. Getting their profiles deleted would probably just fuel the fire for them to keep doing what they're doing.
It's just a shame a place that is for health and fitness is polluted with such sick people... but so is the workplace, the mall, the gym, school and every where else.
I'm just so grateful that I have made it to the other side.
Very well stated...
And glad you're doing better...0 -
Body dismorphic disorder is a seperate disease. I have this, which causes me to relapse into ana again.Anorexia is a body dysmorphic disorder, which means they do not see how they actually appear. Anorexia is a psychological illness which can lead to illness, and even death. They need help and counseling.0 -
I tried to start a 'former' anorexic topic on here and no one replied. I'm now sure it's because it was TABOO on this site. All I wanted to do is talk to other REFORMED anorexics and how they coped with not getting back into poor eating habits.
I was down to 98 lbs when I was anorexic and I got up to 170 over the years. I'm now down to 160 and have lost it in a safe way. I was in no way promoting it, just trying to see if any other people had issues, such as going back to old habits when changing their eating and lifestyle and how they coped with it.
I know it's a life long issue and I never had professional help for it but, I really don't see how you could 'talk' someone into being anorexic. It just doesn't happen. No more so than you can talk someone into being bi-polar. It's a mental disorder and I don't think that anyone should be banned from a healthy website like this for it just like someone who is 500+ lbs shouldn't be banned for gorging themselves on a whole cake. We are human for pete's sake. Instead of stalking profiles to see who is anorexic, work on your own. And before you start bashing my public profile and what I eat or don't eat.. I eat more than what is logged on here, it's just healthy snacks that I eat after dinner. I keep it public because I feel it makes me accountable for eating healthy food and the right amt. of it.0 -
BECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING....
People do not get booted off of the site just b/c they appear to have an ED, nor even if they are promoting an ED, even if they are reported. The mods WILL however (to my understanding) do their own research and have a private conversation with anyone who is reported for actively PROMOTING EDs.
It's not a witch hunt. It's about not giving access to a forum to those who seek to cause harm with their habits.0 -
Isn't overeating a disorder?
Is it really up to us to decide who is wrong and who is right, who should be here and who shouldn't?
I'm really not into policing other's actions/behavior...Do what you want. What makes you happy.0 -
It's almost comical how so many of you are so quick to pass judgement on the OP, that you continually miss the word "A D V O C A T E" (eating disorders).
There is a huge difference between a true 'disease' and just trying to be fashionable.0 -
Isn't overeating a disorder?
Awww yeah. Success!! :drinker:0
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