People who have pro-anorexia profiles
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I understand why you would be upset since we're all working hard to get healthy and fit, but I also understand their point of view. I have battled with anorexia since I was eight years old. At my worst at 15, it's a serious disease. These profiles were created in that mindset. There is not one thing on these people's minds but how to get rid of every ounce of fat on their body, even if there's none left. I agree, you should pray for them. Telling them their wrong doesn't fix anything. I still look in the mirror everyday and wish the same things as the people stuck at the bottom of the eating disorder pit. But I need to make a change. Please try to be understandable, it only fuels the fire to say things like that..
Not trying to argue, just make a point.
I've also been dealing with anorexia and bulimia for three years now. These girls are clearly sick, and when you're eateing disordered a website like this seems like a dream come true. You can tell these girls they're wrong, but that won't change them because anorexia is not a choice, it is a serious illness and the only way they can get better is by getting proper medical help. Reporting them is not going to help them or you. You can encourage them to seek help, and that's about it. If you get their profiles deleted, they're not going to miraculously recover. That's just how it is.0 -
I used to suffer from eating disorders and go on pro-anorexic sites for tips and ideas. I was hospitalized, medicated, and even almost had a feeding tube shoved up my nose (if that doesn't make you start to eat, I don't know what will), but honestly, the sites didn't make me anorexic or bulimic or any sicker than I already was. It was actually comforting to know that there were others out there like me--sick as we all were. I certainly don't think it's appropriate to have pro-eating disorder sites or topics here at MFP, but I also wouldn't worry about getting them kicked off MFP or getting their profiles deleted. They aren't going to "give" someone an eating disorder that doesn't already have one or won't already get one at some point.
Eating disorders (especially the "pro-ana/mia" community) have nothing to do with food or weight, and everything to do with control, manipulation, low self-esteem, insecurity, fear, and rebellion. It's very sad, but it's also not going to hurt anyone who isn't already hurting. Getting their profiles deleted would probably just fuel the fire for them to keep doing what they're doing.
It's just a shame a place that is for health and fitness is polluted with such sick people... but so is the workplace, the mall, the gym, school and every where else.
I'm just so grateful that I have made it to the other side.
Thank you for sharing your story and adding your insight! And I'm grateful you have made it to the other side, too!0 -
I think we should ban people who pass judgment on others.
Um, we should probably ban the entire human race then.0 -
I think this really is the same argument as governmental involvement in people's lives. What gives the powers that be the right to police these people's lives, or anybody's for that matter. Is it really up to a "governing" body (like MFP in this case) to stipulate how people choose to treat their bodies? If they are in danger, or promoting dangerous habits, shouldn't judging or helping them be the responsibility of their parents, friends, teachers, social network??
Yes I think anorexia is bad. Yes I think they need help. But unless it is your daughter, sister, student etc...stay out of it. It's none of your business.
Wow, comparing me to big brother? Mfp is here for people to be healthy. They are clear this is not allowed. I am a member.
Yes I believe this makes it enough of my business to inquire.0 -
I agree with you it just makes me really sick to my stomach that anorexic ppl turn to this site to track their eating disorder. I seen that girls profile and honestly if I'd meet someone like that in person it would make me wanna choke the **** outta them. The things ppl do to their bodies is just heart renching. But @ the same time I also feel that it's just like any other type of addiction so to each their own if they wanna starve themeselves to death the least we can do is sit back and watch them shrink. Not encourage them but you know just watch them. Can't do anything bout it. You can't tell them to eat more they ain't gonna listen. Can't do **** bout it. just saying so just focus on yourself. Don't let it piss you off too much.0
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I think we should ban people who pass judgment on others.
Um, we should probably ban the entire human race then.
Thank you. No one is this guilt-free.0 -
Yeah. This site is free to all, but it does have guidelines and is for people who want to be healthy, not anorexic. There really should be a way to report those people. There are plenty of other sites out there that they could use. I want them to be well and healthy. I will pray for them when I come across their profiles, but what they are advocating is wrong and dangerous.Wow! May be you should stay off her and her friends profile.
I am asking about a serious situation.
I agree. If someone was drinking and driving and we were on the road with them, we'd report their reckless behavior. If someone was threatening to kill themselves, we'd report them for fear that they'd actually do it. Why wouldn't we also report someone for WANTING to partake in an unhealthy lifestyle like anorexia?? I say send the link to their profile to the mods and see what they can do. They (the profile owners) need help and they won't get it by being ignored.0 -
This is what my problem is, it really has nothing to do with the Pro-Eating Disorders, it the fact that she wants to report the persons profile. Why go look for trouble? why is there a need to police other peoples profiles? The Boards, yes I hit report many times in a day, but I do not go to that persons profile just to find something that might offend me and get my panties all twisted so I can report them.0
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I think this really is the same argument as governmental involvement in people's lives. What gives the powers that be the right to police these people's lives, or anybody's for that matter. Is it really up to a "governing" body (like MFP in this case) to stipulate how people choose to treat their bodies? If they are in danger, or promoting dangerous habits, shouldn't judging or helping them be the responsibility of their parents, friends, teachers, social network??
Yes I think anorexia is bad. Yes I think they need help. But unless it is your daughter, sister, student etc...stay out of it. It's none of your business.
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I think this really is the same argument as governmental involvement in people's lives. What gives the powers that be the right to police these people's lives, or anybody's for that matter. Is it really up to a "governing" body (like MFP in this case) to stipulate how people choose to treat their bodies? If they are in danger, or promoting dangerous habits, shouldn't judging or helping them be the responsibility of their parents, friends, teachers, social network??
Yes I think anorexia is bad. Yes I think they need help. But unless it is your daughter, sister, student etc...stay out of it. It's none of your business.
Wow, comparing me to big brother? Mfp is here for people to be healthy. They are clear this is not allowed. I am a member.
Yes I believe this makes it enough of my business to inquire.
No I compared MFP to big brother.
That would make you like..... ... a little brother minion.
Actually this whole thread makes me visualize old ladies staring out the window at the young women neighbors passing judgment through their lace curtains. :laugh:0 -
To the people who are saying worry about yourself , maybe they should read the guidelines
3. No Promotion of Unsafe Weight-Loss Techniques or Eating Disorders
b) No pro-anorexia or pro-bulimia posts, groups, profile names, or profile bylines. Photos intended to promote or glamorize extreme thinness are also not permitted.
And also
2. No Hi-Jacking Topics
Please stay on-topic within a forum topic. Off-topic or derogatory remarks are disrespectful. Please either contribute politely and constructively to a topic, or move on without posting. This includes posts that encourage the drama in a topic to escalate.
See! This is why you're my friend...lol!
This is my point of asking.0 -
I think we should ban people who pass judgment on others.
this.0 -
Sorry, I still don't get it.
Are you all saying It's okay if you've "seen the light" and are here to recover/ become healthy.
If not, "go away" ?
If it is, fine. It's not my name on this site so I don't make the rules. Just seems like a solution is needed so as not to exclude others from becoming healthy.0 -
I think this really is the same argument as governmental involvement in people's lives. What gives the powers that be the right to police these people's lives, or anybody's for that matter. Is it really up to a "governing" body (like MFP in this case) to stipulate how people choose to treat their bodies? If they are in danger, or promoting dangerous habits, shouldn't judging or helping them be the responsibility of their parents, friends, teachers, social network??
Yes I think anorexia is bad. Yes I think they need help. But unless it is your daughter, sister, student etc...stay out of it. It's none of your business.
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I think this really is the same argument as governmental involvement in people's lives. What gives the powers that be the right to police these people's lives, or anybody's for that matter. Is it really up to a "governing" body (like MFP in this case) to stipulate how people choose to treat their bodies? If they are in danger, or promoting dangerous habits, shouldn't judging or helping them be the responsibility of their parents, friends, teachers, social network??
Yes I think anorexia is bad. Yes I think they need help. But unless it is your daughter, sister, student etc...stay out of it. It's none of your business.
Wow, comparing me to big brother? Mfp is here for people to be healthy. They are clear this is not allowed. I am a member.
Yes I believe this makes it enough of my business to inquire.
No I compared MFP to big brother.
That would make you like..... ... a little brother minion.
Actually this whole thread makes me visualize old ladies staring out the window at the young women neighbors passing judgment through their lace curtains. :laugh:
You really are not getting it. Advocating anorexia is against the mfp rules. You may need to look them over again.0 -
I think this really is the same argument as governmental involvement in people's lives. What gives the powers that be the right to police these people's lives, or anybody's for that matter. Is it really up to a "governing" body (like MFP in this case) to stipulate how people choose to treat their bodies? If they are in danger, or promoting dangerous habits, shouldn't judging or helping them be the responsibility of their parents, friends, teachers, social network??
Yes I think anorexia is bad. Yes I think they need help. But unless it is your daughter, sister, student etc...stay out of it. It's none of your business.
Wow, comparing me to big brother? Mfp is here for people to be healthy. They are clear this is not allowed. I am a member.
Yes I believe this makes it enough of my business to inquire.
No I compared MFP to big brother.
That would make you like..... ... a little brother minion.
Actually this whole thread makes me visualize old ladies staring out the window at the young women neighbors passing judgment through their lace curtains. :laugh:
You really are not getting it. Advocating anorexia is against the mfp rules. You may need to look them over again.
*facepalm*
I know it's against the rules. That's why I said:Is it really up to a "governing" body (like MFP in this case) to stipulate how people choose to treat their bodies?
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HOW is banning them from the site helping them? Have you never had an ED? it is a dark dark place full of self hatred. Banning them from a Healthy website would shove most even farther over the edge.
I agree with this.0 -
Reading Comprehension is no longer widely taught, is it?
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Wow! May be you should stay off her and her friends profile.
I am asking about a serious situation.
But you are not responsible for the whole world--or even the whole MFP; you are only responsible for you. If they are underage, they are their parents' responsibility, and if they are adults they are responsible for themselves. If they ask your opinion, give it. Otherwise it's really not your business. I know that's hard to hear, but you can't and shouldn't be responsible for everyone.0 -
Reading Comprehension is no longer widely taught, is it?
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Yeh everyone on this thread COMPLETELY missed the point of what she was trying to say ......stop jumping down her throat already0 -
I am not trying to rule the world. I asked a question. I did not even say anything about getting her banned. I do not go and look at everyone's profiles. No need to get so hostile and mad.0
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Interesting.0
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Reading Comprehension is no longer widely taught, is it?
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Yeh everyone on this thread COMPLETELY missed the point of what she was trying to say ......stop jumping down her throat already
Thank you for paying attention.0 -
I had a friend on MFP that had an ED issue and was in total denial about it. She worked out regularly and regularly ate under 1000 calories. All of her friends made excuses for her and every day she had a new "plan" on how she was going to eat more. She was a college kid, living w/ her parents, and had lost 60 lbs eating less than 800 cals a day.
Anyhow, she posted something to the effect that she wanted her MFP friends to keep her accountable and how could she add more healthy calories to her diet. Of course I suggested, stay away from the fat free crap, drink full fat or 2% milk, eat peanut butter, use olive or canola oil while cooking, whole grain breads, etc....
A week later she posts something about how she wants to eat more, blah, blah, blah (do you see where I'm going with this?)
I sent her a message this time and suggested she go to her parents and get PROFESSIONAL help. She gave me some PC answer, yada, yada....
I figured if she isn't ready to help herself there's nothing I can do to help her.
I de-friended her.
As my dad used to tell me when I'd try to bring home a new stray animal "You can't save the world".....0 -
Say a prayer asking God to help them overcome their disease. And then say a prayer thanking God that you do not have an eating disorder.0
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Deleting Profiles for under 1000 cal. intake is retarded...maybe you need not judge! I only get 1200 cal. a day and sometimes I eat 2-3 cups of arugula (because I love it) and its only 20-30 cal. but very filling. People please read what you post and try to treat others in a positive way 0
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I think that pro-ana and mia people should be banned from the site. They're only here to manipulate the tools given so they can keep track of how little they're eating, how much they need to purge later and so on. Anorexia and Bulimia are serious mental illnesses and should not be taken lightly. Many girls have literally starved themselves to death. I heard of one bulimic girl (1000 ways to die) who binged so much, her stomach lining ripped and she died. So please, nobody suggest we just ignore them when we can do something to help them.
How will banning them help them? I don't think you want to help them at all, I think you've already judged them and found them wanting so you'd just like them to be out of sight. If you wanted to help them you'd see that their being here, exposed to good eating habits, might just rub off. They sure won't get any better at a pro-ana site, now will they? I don't think keeping pro-ana/mia POSTS and TOPICS is a good idea, and deleting them is one thing, but deciding to ban the PEOPLE won't "do something to help them" it will just send them somewhere they are even less likely to get better.
It's about time people who want to ban people get honest about WHY they want to ban them, because you do not want to ban these women to "help" them.0 -
I think we should ban people who pass judgment on others.
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This is a tough one, as many are making valid points. It makes me terribly sad to see eating disorder sufferers who have no intention of trying to work through them, and even sadder when I see them encouraging each other. Unfortunately, there isn't anything that you, an internet stranger, can really do to help them. The motivation to change, to begin a healthy eating style, has to come from within. Until someone is ready to make that change, they probably won't be overly receptive to suggestions, threats, or criticism.
I don't think that they should be banned immediately; maybe a three-strike sort of rule? This site is full of healthy, inspiring people, and just maybe someone's story will spark change in someone who has an eating disorder.
I have a few friends on here battling eating disorders, and I do my very best to support them. I encourage them to rethink their choices when they make a bad decision, and I congratulate them when they take a step in the right direction. On the same token, I've also deleted a couple of friends who were not ready to make these changes and regularly made pro-disorder comments.0 -
Deleting Profiles for under 1000 cal. intake is retarded...maybe you need not judge! I only get 1200 cal. a day and sometimes I eat 2-3 cups of arugula (because I love it) and its only 20-30 cal. but very filling. People please read what you post and try to treat others in a positive way
I agree. I sometimes do not eat all of my calories.0
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