Food Diary ... less is NOT more.
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I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.
I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.
I think it is better for your metabolism, to eat regularly. I have 3 meals, plus 2/3 snacks at regular intervals.
You know that's a myth, right? Having more frequent meals/snacks does **** all for your metabolism.
Why do people still believe this? Seriously.0 -
It's not healthy to eat all of your calories in one sitting. You will have an extremely high fat percentage, and your metabolism will pretty much be shot. BUT, you can still lose weight by doing it. Some people are not here to get healthier, lower body fat %, etc. They are simply here to lose weight.0
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While I agree that multiple meals is a great way to go - Sadly, if you eat all your calories in one meal, or all your calories through out the day - Your body doesn't actually care. Its all a numbers game, really.
While I agree that processed foods are crappy for you - If they are within numbers and macros, they will likely lose weight.
I, however, eat 1200 calories and gain weight. I eat 2400 and maintain....-=Sigh=- I HAVE to weight train to see any impact what-so-ever.0 -
I am not quite as passionate about other people as you. It does seem silly that I have friends that refuse to prepare vegetables even for their children. I have friends that say they don't know how to cook. I think they don't consider that they are responsible for their children's nutrition. Kids can't live off of fruity pebbles and cheetoes :flowerforyou:0
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Some people generally don't have time to exercise: night workers for example, say they work 8pm-8am, they come home and go straight to sleep, get up, have a bath and food then off they go again. It's wrong to make assumptions that people are basically being lazy and making excuses for not eating healthily and not exercising.
Some days i eat 2 meals a day others i eat 3 and have 3 snacks, it's all about what works for the person. I've managed to lose weight doing so therefore i'm not going to change my ways
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The best diet is one you can adhere to for the long term, wether you eat once a day, or 10 times a day. The most important thing is being able get your body into a moderate calorie deficit, while getting the proper macros and micros.0
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I sometimes eat 6 meals a day but haven't bothered changing my diary to reflect that. It is still recorded at Breakfast, lunch and dinner. I just record them in the the three sections. Perhaps, many others are doing the same...0
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I've tried the many small meals thing and I hated it. I never felt satisfied. I eat light during the day and eat/drink whatever I want and just enjoy myself in the evenings and it's been working great for me.0
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What works for one person doesn't necessary work for the next...
This chika has to eat often throughout the day to keep myself on a constant fuel - it would be nice if I wasn't constantly hungry, believe me when I say I don't eat that light either...
All I can do is suggest to anyone who is not having success doing it one way to try the other... but what everyone else does not affect me.0 -
Geez, I'm so tired of all these rants about what other people are doing and not doing. Unless you have a degree in nutrition and exercise, I'm not trying to hear what you have to say. Let people eat and exercise how they want to. How does it hurt you, if someone else isn't eating enough/working out enough IF you are? Worry about yourself and your weight loss and Lead by your ACTIONS NOT YOUR RANTS.
Thank you!
My thoughts exactly.
My diary is public in hopes of constructive feedback not judgemental rants.0 -
I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.
I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.
I think it is better for your metabolism, to eat regularly. I have 3 meals, plus 2/3 snacks at regular intervals.
You know that's a myth, right? Having more frequent meals/snacks does **** all for your metabolism.
Why do people still believe this? Seriously.
Look at it this way; You have (Subject A) who is eating 3-5 normal size meals a day and (Subject
who is eating 1 big stupid *kitten* meal once a day. Subject A metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat. Subject B, dumb *kitten*, metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat as well. Subject A only has 35g of carbs to burn. Subject B, stupid *kitten*, has 196g of carbs to burn. Which subject do you think will have the most carbs left over to be stored as fat? Please don't out smart your common sense. 0 -
I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.
I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.
I think it is better for your metabolism, to eat regularly. I have 3 meals, plus 2/3 snacks at regular intervals.
You know that's a myth, right? Having more frequent meals/snacks does **** all for your metabolism.
Why do people still believe this? Seriously.
Look at it this way; You have (Subject A) who is eating 3-5 normal size meals a day and (Subject who is eating 1 big stupid *kitten* meal once a day. Subject A metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat. Subject B, dumb *kitten*, metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat as well. Subject A only has 35g of carbs to burn. Subject B, stupid *kitten*, has 196g of carbs to burn. Which subject do you think will have the most carbs left over to be stored as fat? Please don't out smart your common sense.
I have no idea where your logic is coming from, but it lacks common sense.0 -
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Look at it this way; You have (Subject A) who is eating 3-5 normal size meals a day and (Subject who is eating 1 big stupid *kitten* meal once a day. Subject A metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat. Subject B, dumb *kitten*, metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat as well. Subject A only has 35g of carbs to burn. Subject B, stupid *kitten*, has 196g of carbs to burn. Which subject do you think will have the most carbs left over to be stored as fat? Please don't out smart your common sense.
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Thank you for this ... common sense prevails again.
I am not rude and condescending. I am not trying to be judgemental of anyone. I am not perched upon a high horse and don't expect people to conform to what I'm trying to do.
Hey ... if the fast food diet works for someone ... all the power to them, I just know that personally I would feel like a can of smashed *kitten* if I ate like that in an attempt to take care of my body.0 -
I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.
I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.
I think it is better for your metabolism, to eat regularly. I have 3 meals, plus 2/3 snacks at regular intervals.
You know that's a myth, right? Having more frequent meals/snacks does **** all for your metabolism.
Why do people still believe this? Seriously.
Look at it this way; You have (Subject A) who is eating 3-5 normal size meals a day and (Subject who is eating 1 big stupid *kitten* meal once a day. Subject A metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat. Subject B, dumb *kitten*, metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat as well. Subject A only has 35g of carbs to burn. Subject B, stupid *kitten*, has 196g of carbs to burn. Which subject do you think will have the most carbs left over to be stored as fat? Please don't out smart your common sense.
There's no science backing to this. Two years of both basic Anatomy & Physiology and Microbiology classes have taught me this. Your body doesn't automatically reset every 24 hours, and body processes balance it out in such a short amount of time, anyway.0 -
What each of you have said about eating times is true. It is a numbers game upfront, Taken in minus taken out equals (hopefully) a calorie deficit. It takes 3500 calories burned to burn up one pound of fat. On the under side of all that, however, is the fact that our bodies process nutrients in one way only. As blackranger said, our bodies process the max nutrients that it can process and store the rest as fat. For example, our bodies are only able to effectively process about 20G of protein per sitting. As we exercise, our bodies pull fuel from two different sources, fat and carbs. The proteins are the building blocks used to repair damaged tissue which is kind of the point of effective weight training, to break down muscle tissue only to build it back up again when at rest. So bottom line is, eat whatever way you like and yes you may still lose weight but not body fat. Your body fat may stay the same or even increase. Medically, a higher bady fat percentage puts one at risk for more health problems regardless of the weight. Let us all remember, it is mass we should be concerned about, not weight. After all, if we were all on the moon we would weigh one sixth of what we weigh here on Earth.0
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I am amazed at the public food diaries I see. I don't understand how my MFP peeps expect to lose weight cramming all their calories in one, maybe two meals.
I'm not so sure it really matters when you eat your calories. There are some days I eat half of mine in one meal, but hasn't hindered me in the slightest. The body doesn't care if you eat three meals, two or seven.
I think it is better for your metabolism, to eat regularly. I have 3 meals, plus 2/3 snacks at regular intervals.
You know that's a myth, right? Having more frequent meals/snacks does **** all for your metabolism.
Why do people still believe this? Seriously.
Look at it this way; You have (Subject A) who is eating 3-5 normal size meals a day and (Subject who is eating 1 big stupid *kitten* meal once a day. Subject A metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat. Subject B, dumb *kitten*, metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat as well. Subject A only has 35g of carbs to burn. Subject B, stupid *kitten*, has 196g of carbs to burn. Which subject do you think will have the most carbs left over to be stored as fat? Please don't out smart your common sense.
There's no science backing to this. Two years of both basic Anatomy & Physiology and Microbiology classes have taught me this. Your body doesn't automatically reset every 24 hours, and body processes balance it out in such a short amount of time, anyway.
It's called BroScience...0 -
It's not healthy to eat all of your calories in one sitting. You will have an extremely high fat percentage, and your metabolism will pretty much be shot. BUT, you can still lose weight by doing it. Some people are not here to get healthier, lower body fat %, etc. They are simply here to lose weight.
There is zero evidence for your assertion that this is the case. Every clinical study done shows that meal frequency has nothing, nothing at all to do with metabolism or fat loss. Some of the most lean people I know here do intermittent fasting, they eat all their calories in an 8 hour or less window of time. Five meals a day works for some people because mentally it helps them. Just as true, it does not work for other, myself included. I ate 5-6 small meals a day, and yes, I lost weight, but I always had to fight against the desire to eat a bigger meal. These meals were veggies, bean, lean meat, and all the right stuff. Then I discovered all the research, and there is a lot, that showed I don't HAVE to eat 5-6 meals a day. It makes not difference at all to metabolism or fat loss. So I went to a pattern that works for me eating between 1-8 and doing so in 2-3 large meals. Now I still lose the fat, and I am much more likely to continue to comply to the caloric restrictions that I need to so I lose the fat. Basically, unless you are willing to read the actual research out their in peer reviewed journals, don't make absolute assertions. If you don't want to wade through the peer reviewed journals, at least take the time to read those who bring them together like you can find a leangains.com and other sites who actually use the latest research to put together their articles, and they will actually cite studies, unlike those who give much advice on the internet or in magazines.0 -
Fantastic information, thank you for clarifying !What each of you have said about eating times is true. It is a numbers game upfront, Taken in minus taken out equals (hopefully) a calorie deficit. It takes 3500 calories burned to burn up one pound of fat. On the under side of all that, however, is the fact that our bodies process nutrients in one way only. As blackranger said, our bodies process the max nutrients that it can process and store the rest as fat. For example, our bodies are only able to effectively process about 20G of protein per sitting. As we exercise, our bodies pull fuel from two different sources, fat and carbs. The proteins are the building blocks used to repair damaged tissue which is kind of the point of effective weight training, to break down muscle tissue only to build it back up again when at rest. So bottom line is, eat whatever way you like and yes you may still lose weight but not body fat. Your body fat may stay the same or even increase. Medically, a higher bady fat percentage puts one at risk for more health problems regardless of the weight. Let us all remember, it is mass we should be concerned about, not weight. After all, if we were all on the moon we would weigh one sixth of what we weigh here on Earth.0 -
The type of people that are doing what you call a fast food diet are people that obviously don't yet know how to eat healthy. And for them, eating one stupid meal a day is helping them focus on cutting back. It's a LOT healthier than what they Normally do. So cut them some slack, and let them focus on trying. Most people have to try manymany times before they really learn how to lose weight long-term. We are all still learning.
Look at it this way; You have (Subject A) who is eating 3-5 normal size meals a day and (Subject who is eating 1 big stupid *kitten* meal once a day. Subject A metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat. Subject B, dumb *kitten*, metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat as well. Subject A only has 35g of carbs to burn. Subject B, stupid *kitten*, has 196g of carbs to burn. Which subject do you think will have the most carbs left over to be stored as fat? Please don't out smart your common sense.
Thank you for this ... common sense prevails again.
I am not rude and condescending. I am not trying to be judgemental of anyone. I am not perched upon a high horse and don't expect people to conform to what I'm trying to do.
Hey ... if the fast food diet works for someone ... all the power to them, I just know that personally I would feel like a can of smashed *kitten* if I ate like that in an attempt to take care of my body.0 -
As blackranger said, our bodies process the max nutrients that it can process and store the rest as fat. For example, our bodies are only able to effectively process about 20G of protein per sitting.
First of all, this is what the body does whether you eat many small meals or one big one. Rarely do you have a need for all the nutrients in a meal, and the extras get stored in various ways such as carbs as glycogen in muscles and liver and as fat. Protein and fat the same say.
As to the 20grams of protein in one sitting, this is yet another myth. The key give away on that, without doing the work of wading through the clinical research, is that the numbers cited of the amount of protein that can be absorbed in one sitting constantly vary between 20 (although I have seen some say as little as 15) and 30 grams of protein a sitting. That is simply not true. In fact, a larger meal simply takes longer to digest than a smaller one, so where those nutrients would be finished absorbing in a short time from a small meal, that is not the case with a larger one.0 -
ahahahahaha I love when everyone decides to bash the OP. Makes for good entertainment at work.
Glad I could amuse you today
I didn't realize this was going to turn into a public lashing for voicing my opinion (as everyone else so freely does!)
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Dear Riley,
Please note the words effectively and about. Thank you sir. I am not saying that you are wrong but I too am unwilling to admit defeat.0 -
It's not healthy to eat all of your calories in one sitting. You will have an extremely high fat percentage, and your metabolism will pretty much be shot. BUT, you can still lose weight by doing it. Some people are not here to get healthier, lower body fat %, etc. They are simply here to lose weight.
There is zero evidence for your assertion that this is the case. Every clinical study done shows that meal frequency has nothing, nothing at all to do with metabolism or fat loss. Some of the most lean people I know here do intermittent fasting, they eat all their calories in an 8 hour or less window of time. Five meals a day works for some people because mentally it helps them. Just as true, it does not work for other, myself included. I ate 5-6 small meals a day, and yes, I lost weight, but I always had to fight against the desire to eat a bigger meal. These meals were veggies, bean, lean meat, and all the right stuff. Then I discovered all the research, and there is a lot, that showed I don't HAVE to eat 5-6 meals a day. It makes not difference at all to metabolism or fat loss. So I went to a pattern that works for me eating between 1-8 and doing so in 2-3 large meals. Now I still lose the fat, and I am much more likely to continue to comply to the caloric restrictions that I need to so I lose the fat. Basically, unless you are willing to read the actual research out their in peer reviewed journals, don't make absolute assertions. If you don't want to wade through the peer reviewed journals, at least take the time to read those who bring them together like you can find a leangains.com and other sites who actually use the latest research to put together their articles, and they will actually cite studies, unlike those who give much advice on the internet or in magazines.
Hi buddy, you go ahead and continue to eat your high calorie meals in one sitting. Good luck with that.0 -
Look at it this way; You have (Subject A) who is eating 3-5 normal size meals a day and (Subject who is eating 1 big stupid *kitten* meal once a day. Subject A metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat. Subject B, dumb *kitten*, metabolism will burn as much carbs as it can and store the rest as fat as well. Subject A only has 35g of carbs to burn. Subject B, stupid *kitten*, has 196g of carbs to burn. Which subject do you think will have the most carbs left over to be stored as fat? Please don't out smart your common sense.
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Thank you for this ... common sense prevails again.
I am not rude and condescending. I am not trying to be judgemental of anyone. I am not perched upon a high horse and don't expect people to conform to what I'm trying to do.
Hey ... if the fast food diet works for someone ... all the power to them, I just know that personally I would feel like a can of smashed *kitten* if I ate like that in an attempt to take care of my body.
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Actually you are being rather condescending and rude.
You're looking through random diaries and judging them on the way they're eating without nothing them or their situation. And then you start a forum topic about it.
And your little edit to every post you make to say "common sense prevails again" is snarky.0 -
Geez, I'm so tired of all these rants about what other people are doing and not doing. Unless you have a degree in nutrition and exercise, I'm not trying to hear what you have to say. Let people eat and exercise how they want to. How does it hurt you, if someone else isn't eating enough/working out enough IF you are? Worry about yourself and your weight loss and Lead by your ACTIONS NOT YOUR RANTS.
Thank you!
^THIS^.0 -
Geez, I'm so tired of all these rants about what other people are doing and not doing. Unless you have a degree in nutrition and exercise, I'm not trying to hear what you have to say. Let people eat and exercise how they want to. How does it hurt you, if someone else isn't eating enough/working out enough IF you are? Worry about yourself and your weight loss and Lead by your ACTIONS NOT YOUR RANTS.
Thank you!
This^^^^^^!!!!!!!0 -
Did anyone happen to notice this statement at the bottom of this page?
"Posts by members, moderators and admins should not be considered medical advice and no guarantee is made against accuracy."
I re-read my post and don't find it horrific ... it's unfortunate that others took it as a personal attack.
However ... that being said, my apologies ... must have eaten two scoops of grumpy in my bowl full of b*tchies this morning. Evidently, no one else should be allowed the freedom to rant either.
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Of course you have freedom to post what you want. You just have to deal with the consequences of it. The thing is, your post was being kind of mean. It kind of isn't your place to pass judgement the way you were. But by making an entire post about it, you invited other peoples' opinions.0
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Of course you have freedom to post what you want. You just have to deal with the consequences of it. The thing is, your post was being kind of mean. It kind of isn't your place to pass judgement the way you were. But by making an entire post about it, you invited other peoples' opinions.
True story bro. :laugh:0 -
It's not healthy to eat all of your calories in one sitting. You will have an extremely high fat percentage, and your metabolism will pretty much be shot. BUT, you can still lose weight by doing it. Some people are not here to get healthier, lower body fat %, etc. They are simply here to lose weight.
There is zero evidence for your assertion that this is the case. Every clinical study done shows that meal frequency has nothing, nothing at all to do with metabolism or fat loss. Some of the most lean people I know here do intermittent fasting, they eat all their calories in an 8 hour or less window of time. Five meals a day works for some people because mentally it helps them. Just as true, it does not work for other, myself included. I ate 5-6 small meals a day, and yes, I lost weight, but I always had to fight against the desire to eat a bigger meal. These meals were veggies, bean, lean meat, and all the right stuff. Then I discovered all the research, and there is a lot, that showed I don't HAVE to eat 5-6 meals a day. It makes not difference at all to metabolism or fat loss. So I went to a pattern that works for me eating between 1-8 and doing so in 2-3 large meals. Now I still lose the fat, and I am much more likely to continue to comply to the caloric restrictions that I need to so I lose the fat. Basically, unless you are willing to read the actual research out their in peer reviewed journals, don't make absolute assertions. If you don't want to wade through the peer reviewed journals, at least take the time to read those who bring them together like you can find a leangains.com and other sites who actually use the latest research to put together their articles, and they will actually cite studies, unlike those who give much advice on the internet or in magazines.
Hi buddy, you go ahead and continue to eat your high calorie meals in one sitting. Good luck with that.
I will, and no luck is needed.0
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