How much are you deadlifting?
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I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
Oh, and in the sake of keeping on topic
5'9" male
155 lbs (or so, havent weighed in a while)
last deadlift 225lbs
Yeah, a ways to go, maybe I need to email some experts0 -
I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
MY EYES! MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSS!0 -
I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
MY EYES! MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSS!
Funny thing is that feedback actually PROVES that his form is bad....basically going with everything Sara was saying0 -
I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
MY EYES! MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSS!
Funny thing is that feedback actually PROVES that his form is bad....basically going with everything Sara was saying
I haven't been here long, but I know this much. You better know your shizzz if you plan to take on Sara.0 -
Will part 2 be as entertaining as part 1?????
Bumpidibump
Sadly, probably not - even *before* I noticed that the topic was locked, my superiour officers in my personal circle (which 'circle' is a topic beyond the scope of this thread) have suggested that I not answer any other "off-topic" questions in this (or any other) thread, but, instead, invite anyone with "off-topic" questions to come and post either on my blog http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/GordonWayneWatts or my profile --
REASONING: Recently, there were a few complaints about some posts that were off-topic on one thread, and, out of respect for the other community member, I have now instituted the "Gordon Rule" in order to help reduce the chance I (or anybody else) accidentally offend anyone: If u want 2 post off-topic stuff, you are welcome to post on my blog, linked above, (not on the boards) so the message boards stay "on-topic" :-) Gordon
I promise to not delete any comments (unless they are patently offensive to others; I am not easily offended).
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PS: Now that the prior (originator) board was locked, that confirms my suspicions that my decision to follow the suggestion of High Command here was a correct one. Any future "off-topic" questions will be answered with an invitation to my blog, board, or some other place.0 -
To answer your question, a 275-lb deadlift for 4 sets of 6 is not bad -especially for a newbie (6 reps implies about a 325 1rep max -probably more if you can do this for sets) - but you don't specify your height or weight, so an exact answer is difficult to ascertainI'm at 275 (4x6) with having it in my routine for about a month and half. Always had a really strong back and legs so I feel like the number is climbing pretty quickly even though its not exactly decent right now.....not sure if its a good newbie number for the lift or not. I'm calling myself a newbie but it was fixture in my strength training for football around 12 years ago so I'm claiming a clean slate starting out.
-whatever you lift, if you do your best and steer clear of injury, that is good. Good luck!0 -
If You put had 90-lbs on a bar, the total weight was 135-lbs, since the bar weighs 45-lbs.For fun today because I never have deadlifted outside of BodyPump I deadlifted 90 pounds with no problem at all. FOr some strange reason a bar had 50 on it so I just loaded 40 more on it just to see if I could. I am curious how much I can lift. For a woman at 5' 9 - what should I be lifting?
You should do work sets with whatever weight you can safely do for about 3 sets of 8, but which is pretty hard to get that 8th rep.
To get stronger, increase the weight on the bar, and decrease the number of reps per set (warm up with light weights before moving to heavy weights) -- and be sure to eat and sleep plenty! Don't worry about getting "bulky" or looking like a man -- many very strong lifters (both men and woman) are quite skinny: I am 5'9" like you (weigh 120-lbs) and have been able to progress from 205-lbs from the floor deadlift 1-repl-max to 295. My progress video's link is listed in my profile, if you're curious, but some (not all) lifters have questioned my form, so do your own research before taking my word as gospel.
To answer your main question: How much you can expect to be able to lift is affected by your bodyweight, how much you've been training, how much you eat & sleep & deal with stress, and also health and injury status -- don't feel bad if you're starting out at a low weight, and do be safe, but train hard, and have fun.
ETA (edited to add) if you lift heavy, you will probably have to take a week off once every 4 or 5 weeks (a "deload" if you wanna Google it) where u lift, but only about 50% of your normal weight.
(another ETA: As myself and others have discussed, biometrics -e.g., height and how long your arms are - also all affect range of motion, and leverage -all affecting how hard the deadlift is to start "off the floor" - but, do try your best, and I'm sure you will make progress, no matter your exact situation.)0 -
I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
MY EYES! MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSS!
Funny thing is that feedback actually PROVES that his form is bad....basically going with everything Sara was saying
I went to see the feedback last night, but it wasn't up yet.
So what April is saying is that GWW's form IS BETTER than before, but still needs work, also, start lifting from the floor for deads, and lower the rack for rack-pulls.
The second set of feedback says 'You aren't locking out on your deads, you need to start doing that'.
I don't see how that can be construed as 'Hey friend, you lift with good form'.0 -
Use a mixed grip (one hand over and one under) --and if that's not enough, use a "hook grip" (where you lock your thumbs) -- but careful! The hook grip's a bit STRESSFUL on your thumbs. -- I am confident you will have no trouble holing a lot more weight than that if you use the mixed (cross) grip and train hard - let us know if this works.I totally only caught the last tail end of the other one- so I missed 3/4 of the epic-iness.
But for the actual question...
Of the Wominzy Variety
5'9"
160 (ish- sometimes less- sometimes more)
pulling around 265 at the top of my pyramid but haven't one rep maxed in a while though.
Hoping to hit 300 in a few weeks/months!
wut? I'm feeling like a weakling now! My grip fails at 270, and I won't wrap it.0 -
I usually do better with a sumo stance, since I'm a bit tall. (Oddly enough my 1RM for the floor DL is 295 conventional but only 285 sumo, but I feel this will change if I get back in the gym more regularly: The sumo, while hard on the hips due to the "gymnastics split" physics, lets you get closer to the bar, so it is preferred for taller lifters in many cases, especially if you've got real short arms.) Stats: M/120-lbs/5'9"Male - 6'4" - 190 lbs - DL 335x6 which projects out to 389
I feel at a disadvantage because of my height. Is it wrong for me to feel better in a wider stance?
PS: It is always good to train both conv. and sumo -- and do a little deficit dead-lifting too for variety. Good luck, here.0 -
Just started: Male 24, 6'1", 182 lbs. Max I have done so far is 155x8.
But, I was using HORRIBLE form (though it was better than GWW, probably. It certainly wasn't any worse), ended up hurting my back. Back is starting to feel better, I will be trying again with better form on Friday or Saturday.
GWW sez.... 155 x 8 reps implies about a 193.75-lbs one rep max -- not bad - especially for a real tall lifter, but I feel you can get stronger if you train hard and eat & sleep a lot. Don't forget to deload once every 4 or 5 weeks if you train real heavy.0 -
I usually do better with a sumo stance, since I'm a bit tall. (Oddly enough my 1RM for the floor DL is 295 conventional but only 285 sumo, but I feel this will change if I get back in the gym more regularly: The sumo, while hard on the hips due to the "gymnastics split" physics, lets you get closer to the bar, so it is preferred for taller lifters in many cases, especially if you've got real short arms.) Stats: M/120-lbs/5'9"Male - 6'4" - 190 lbs - DL 335x6 which projects out to 389
I feel at a disadvantage because of my height. Is it wrong for me to feel better in a wider stance?
PS: It is always good to train both conv. and sumo -- and do a little deficit dead-lifting too for variety. Good luck, here.
By what standard are you determining that 5'9" is tall? I am 5'9", and have never been thought of as tall.0 -
I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
MY EYES! MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSS!
Funny thing is that feedback actually PROVES that his form is bad....basically going with everything Sara was saying
Correct -WAS bad in this vid: "320 lb deadlift + 585 lb rack pull @ 120-lb bodyweight (DeadliftDay.wmv)"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oseUEhVPSKE
Corrected form (much better) in THIS subsequent (follow-up) vid: "Powerlifting-Before & After: featuring a 635-lb RackPull & 710-lb Yoke lift at 120-lb. bodyweight"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ekHA4OU_E
PS: Other 'cool' stuff lives on my YouTube channel 0 -
I usually do better with a sumo stance, since I'm a bit tall. (Oddly enough my 1RM for the floor DL is 295 conventional but only 285 sumo, but I feel this will change if I get back in the gym more regularly: The sumo, while hard on the hips due to the "gymnastics split" physics, lets you get closer to the bar, so it is preferred for taller lifters in many cases, especially if you've got real short arms.) Stats: M/120-lbs/5'9"Male - 6'4" - 190 lbs - DL 335x6 which projects out to 389
I feel at a disadvantage because of my height. Is it wrong for me to feel better in a wider stance?
PS: It is always good to train both conv. and sumo -- and do a little deficit dead-lifting too for variety. Good luck, here.
By what standard are you determining that 5'9" is tall? I am 5'9", and have never been thought of as tall.
I'm 5'10" and definitely not tall.
But we have an expert dispensing deadlift advice so sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!! Let's all listen . . .0 -
I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
MY EYES! MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSS!
Funny thing is that feedback actually PROVES that his form is bad....basically going with everything Sara was saying
Correct -WAS bad in this vid: "320 lb deadlift + 585 lb rack pull @ 120-lb bodyweight (DeadliftDay.wmv)"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oseUEhVPSKE
Corrected form (much better) in THIS subsequent (follow-up) vid: "Powerlifting-Before & After: featuring a 635-lb RackPull & 710-lb Yoke lift at 120-lb. bodyweight"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8ekHA4OU_E
PS: Other 'cool' stuff lives on my YouTube channel
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I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
MY EYES! MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSS!
Funny thing is that feedback actually PROVES that his form is bad....basically going with everything Sara was saying
I went to see the feedback last night, but it wasn't up yet.
So what April is saying is that GWW's form IS BETTER than before, but still needs work, also, start lifting from the floor for deads, and lower the rack for rack-pulls.
The second set of feedback says 'You aren't locking out on your deads, you need to start doing that'.
I don't see how that can be construed as 'Hey friend, you lift with good form'.
Re: "I went to see the feedback last night, but it wasn't up yet. "
The old thread is here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/545499-how-much-are-you-deadlifting?page=20
It was either locked because of abuse of off-topic rules or, perhaps because it hit the 20-page limit (if such a limit exists - I don't know?)
Re: your other comment -- you are correct: my form WAS somewhat poor in that vid, but this was an older vid from a while back - my newer vid shows better form (see my prior replies for links to both)0 -
My opinion is relative -- but I am thinking about MY weight class, the 123's -- in that class, practically NOBODY is 5'9" or taller.
I usually do better with a sumo stance, since I'm a bit tall. (Oddly enough my 1RM for the floor DL is 295 conventional but only 285 sumo, but I feel this will change if I get back in the gym more regularly: The sumo, while hard on the hips due to the "gymnastics split" physics, lets you get closer to the bar, so it is preferred for taller lifters in many cases, especially if you've got real short arms.) Stats: M/120-lbs/5'9"Male - 6'4" - 190 lbs - DL 335x6 which projects out to 389
I feel at a disadvantage because of my height. Is it wrong for me to feel better in a wider stance?
PS: It is always good to train both conv. and sumo -- and do a little deficit dead-lifting too for variety. Good luck, here.
By what standard are you determining that 5'9" is tall? I am 5'9", and have never been thought of as tall.0 -
In, cuz 3/4 of MFP is in, LOL…
F/156#/5’7" 1x5 @ 150 (got injured in June and working my way back up.
) 0 -
now, now -- I've stopped defending myself (with one exception to a poster who didn't see that I had 2 lifting videos and made progress on my form) -- but if and when a poster asks for feedback (and several did), it IS ok to politely and briefly answer with feedback and assistance. :glasses:The thread title is How Much Are You Deadlifting?
not
some random guy please come in and comment on every other post.0 -
The thread title is How Much Are You Deadlifting?
not
some random guy please come in and comment on every other post.
:drinker:0 -
(Actually, it *is* tall for the 123-lb weight class - my weight class - most in my class are shooort! Migits almost, indeed.!)I'm 5'10" and definitely not tall.
But we have an expert dispensing deadlift advice so sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!! Let's all listen . . .0 -
I missed all the fun. This was a fun recap though:
gordonwaynewatts.com/powerlifters-feedback
Quacktastic!
MY EYES! MY EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYESSSSSSSSS!
Funny thing is that feedback actually PROVES that his form is bad....basically going with everything Sara was saying
I went to see the feedback last night, but it wasn't up yet.
So what April is saying is that GWW's form IS BETTER than before, but still needs work, also, start lifting from the floor for deads, and lower the rack for rack-pulls.
The second set of feedback says 'You aren't locking out on your deads, you need to start doing that'.
I don't see how that can be construed as 'Hey friend, you lift with good form'.
Re: "I went to see the feedback last night, but it wasn't up yet. "
The old thread is here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/545499-how-much-are-you-deadlifting?page=20
It was either locked because of abuse of off-topic rules or, perhaps because it hit the 20-page limit (if such a limit exists - I don't know?)
Re: your other comment -- you are correct: my form WAS somewhat poor in that vid, but this was an older vid from a while back - my newer vid shows better form (see my prior replies for links to both)
No. Your form is BETTER than before.
Not good.
Which is what the feedback from your 'friend' April also says.0 -
6'3"
210 lbs
I'm at 355lbs, but having problems gaining because of a joint disease that is also effecting my tendons in my shoulder/elbow/hands. My hands are about half strength right now and finding it hard to hold the weight.0 -
(Actually, it *is* tall for the 123-lb weight class - my weight class - most in my class are shooort! Migits almost, indeed.!)I'm 5'10" and definitely not tall.
But we have an expert dispensing deadlift advice so sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!! Let's all listen . . .
Then eat more, listen to advice about your form, grow, and improve your lifts.
Basically, what you're saying is that you are so thin that the only people in your weight class are "little people" (using the preferred term). That's not good, brah. Not good at all. You should be focusing on taking care of yourself.0 -
(Actually, it *is* tall for the 123-lb weight class - my weight class - most in my class are shooort! Migits almost, indeed.!)I'm 5'10" and definitely not tall.
But we have an expert dispensing deadlift advice so sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!! Let's all listen . . .
a more accurate take away is you may be too thin for your height. And bragging about form critiques from highly respected pros is a poorly veiled attempt at self validation.0 -
In again. I guess. SMH0
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If you look closely, you'll see that April's comment (as all the others) was on the 320-lb vid, not the current 710-lb vid. (which I think had better form).No. Your form is BETTER than before.
Not good.
Which is what the feedback from your 'friend' April also says.
http://GordonWayneWatts.com/powerlifters-feedback0 -
(Actually, it *is* tall for the 123-lb weight class - my weight class - most in my class are shooort! Migits almost, indeed.!)I'm 5'10" and definitely not tall.
But we have an expert dispensing deadlift advice so sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!! Let's all listen . . .
Then eat more, listen to advice about your form, grow, and improve your lifts.
Basically, what you're saying is that you are so thin that the only people in your weight class are "little people" (using the preferred term). That's not good, brah. Not good at all. You should be focusing on taking care of yourself.
Thx 4 the advice -- well-intended -and good -- but actually, you need not worry: I eat like a horse - and yet don't gain weight.
(But, I find that I'm stronger when I stuff my face with food - and I feel better too -not to mention the food tastes great!)0 -
I'm not the strongest person around, and so I'm not bragging - but using accurate measuring standards is always best to get to the actual facts -and not mere opinions - when I look into the mirror, I want to see an accurate picture - Truth Seeker - not bragging. :glasses:
(Actually, it *is* tall for the 123-lb weight class - my weight class - most in my class are shooort! Migits almost, indeed.!)I'm 5'10" and definitely not tall.
But we have an expert dispensing deadlift advice so sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!! Let's all listen . . .
a more accurate take away is you may be too thin for your height. And bragging about form critiques from highly respected pros is a poorly veiled attempt at self validation.0 -
(Actually, it *is* tall for the 123-lb weight class - my weight class - most in my class are shooort! Migits almost, indeed.!)I'm 5'10" and definitely not tall.
But we have an expert dispensing deadlift advice so sssssshhhhhhh!!!!!! Let's all listen . . .
a more accurate take away is you may be too thin for your height. And bragging about form critiques from highly respected pros is a poorly veiled attempt at self validation.
Once again, thx 4 the advice, but as we've discussed earlier, I'd prefer to keep this thread to either "how much can you lift" or short and polite answers to lifters asking for help with their programme -- it's not all about me --- if anyone wants to chat with me, feel free to come on over to either:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/GordonWayneWatts
or
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/GordonWayneWatts
or even my personal webpages and YouTube and Facebook -really, I won't bite. (I've got a good sense of humour and am not easily offended: But, for the sake of World Peace, ok?, -- let's leave this thread to the topic at hand.) :glasses:0
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