girls ... do you mind if your men go to strip clubs?
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Most of the women there ARE empowered. They are getting hundreds to thousands of dollars a night from guys who (usually) can't even touch them. Who's exploiting who?
I'm pretty sure that's a quote from an episode of American Dad... the one where Haley started stripping. ;-)0 -
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Before my husband was my husband, I took him to a strip club for his 21st birthday. It was fun. I just didn't realize the dancers would pay more attention to my female friend and I instead of the men we brought. *shrug*
My sister used to frequent strip clubs with her boyfriend & friends and had the same experience. Part of it is that it will turn the guys in the group with the girl-on-girl aspect, and they will tip better. Other times it's because the girl is a lesbian or bisexual. I'm sure there are other reasons too, but that's the impression I got from her talking about it.0 -
Depends on the club. A classy place with no touching, sure why not - just don't spend too much $$.
An icky place with touching and lap dances, um no.
Strip clubs? Classy? Isn't that an oxymoron?0 -
Nope, doesn't bother me in the least. I'd probably go with him (I like girls, too!). I trust my husband completely. And no, I am not naive. He and I have excellent communication and have discussed the subject. I don't mind if he looks at Playboy, Maxim, etc., either. Just because he's not going to eat doesn't mean he can't read the menu. If it bothers you, it's your problem, not his (unless he is an addict). Most likey it bothers you because of your own insecurity.
Sex is everywhere, not just strip clubs. Every minute of every day it's somewhere on the t.v., in print ads, movies, billboards, even mannequins in stores. However, I hardly think looking at a naked mannequin form promotes sexual thoughts.
And, for the record, my husband does not go to strip clubs anymore. He stopped going long before he met me.0 -
Ive gone to two strip clubs and could honestly say I dont care for them. I just felt trashy going to them and it does nothing for me. Watching a girl cook in the kitchen is much sexier than throwing dirty rolled up dollar bills at her snatch. I like women with class.
Edited by Fieldsy on Wed 04/11/12 02:55 PM
I will also add this is how I felt whether I was single or involved with someone...
nice!:flowerforyou:
I may be in the minority for guys not liking it, but my head wasnt wired that way. Id feel like I needed to take 3 showers if a stripper rubbed up on me.0 -
Looking at another girl, getting all jacked up, and then coming home to me, yah, he'd have to deal with it himself. Maybe he WANTS to come home to you for this "release" after watching a random womans naked T,P&A with your blessing. Or maybe he HAS to come home to you because he just can't take it anymore... too much build up there. Doesn't turn me on in the least.
It could be me, but it seems that some of you that are "pro" strip clubs are ticked off that some of us would not send our men there. I'm sensing some hostility for the opposing viewpoint here. There are way more women saying "Rah Rah" strip club than not. So you all MUST be right. Either that, or some of you really hate the idea, but go along with whatever your man wants to do. Just my opinion.
I honestly couldn't care less what other women "allow" their men to do or not do. I don't control what my man does and he doesn't control what I do. I'm secure enough to know where I stand with my husband and that's all that matters to me. Oh, and I don't believe this was a "right" or "wrong" issue. The question was if we minded. Some do and some don't, so what's the problem?0 -
I guess everyone has the right to their own opinion. Me, not only does it NOT bother me, but I also go with him every once on in while. Not very often, mind you, and he doesn't go often either. I think it’s like a once a year thing. He says he has way more fun when I go with him. He doesn't mind when I go to female strip clubs either. (Notice profile pix) He will hand me cash to go if I mention it jokingly. I have full trust in him and he has full trust in me. That’s how it should be.0
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Would men mind if their women stripped?
Id be out of it before her panties hit the floor0 -
My husband and I are morally (religiously) opposed to viewing pornography, visiting strip clubs, or even watching the more explicit sex scenes in some R-rated films. (I'm sure there are other no-nos on this list, I'm just not thinking of them all at the moment).
We are also morally opposed to sexually fantasizing about other people. This is a far more private conviction, and we don't ask about each others "mental indiscretions." I actually don't consider it any of my business what he thinks about. I'm not his thought police. haha!
I do make our sex life a priority, though, since I'm the only person on this planet who he can come to since we're committed to a faithful, monogamous relationship. I don't expect either one of us to never be attracted to someone else (or turned on), but we are faithful to meet each others needs. That really goes a long way.0 -
One word: Trust. That's what a relationship is built on. I'm lucky I have a husband who is HONESTLY not interested in any of it, but if he so chose to go to anything of that sort, I wouldn't even give it a second thought.
Relax, people. It's not the end of the world. If you think your S.O. would be tempted, then I would probably rethink your relationship.
Ditto.
Before my husband and I got married I told him I didn't really care if he went to a strip club or had strippers at his bachelor party. Turns out, he had no interest in it, but he appreciated how much I trust him.
Bottom line, even if he did go, he's coming home to me. If he comes home riled up and wants to get it on, then that's even better. We have a good sex life without any "outside stimulus," so even if that situation "arose" I certainly wouldn't feel - as some women in this thread put it - like a cum dumpster.0 -
If he wants to become single real quick, he can go to one...
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One word: Trust. That's what a relationship is built on. I'm lucky I have a husband who is HONESTLY not interested in any of it, but if he so chose to go to anything of that sort, I wouldn't even give it a second thought.
Relax, people. It's not the end of the world. If you think your S.O. would be tempted, then I would probably rethink your relationship.
Ditto.
Before my husband and I got married I told him I didn't really care if he went to a strip club or had strippers at his bachelor party. Turns out, he had no interest in it, but he appreciated how much I trust him.
Bottom line, even if he did go, he's coming home to me. If he comes home riled up and wants to get it on, then that's even better. We have a good sex life without any "outside stimulus," so even if that situation "arose" I certainly wouldn't feel - as some women in this thread put it - like a cum dumpster.
What They Said! ^^
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My Opinion:
I wouldn't care if my boyfriend went to a strip club. I was in a relationship with a guy who went to strip clubs once in a while, I even went to male strippers with my friends while we were together.
If I trust someone enough to be in a relationship with them, then I trust them enough not to cheat on me. I don't think people cheat because the opportunity comes up, they cheat because that's the way they are.
And while I do believe that there are many strippers who are abused and enslaved (which is a terrible tragedy), saying that going to any strip club supports human trafficking is like saying going to any bar supports organized crime because some bars are ran by the HA.
HOWEVER
it is up to every individual to decide what is and is not acceptable in their relationship. If you are not ok with your signifcant other going to strip clubs you have every right to demand that they don't. It is about them respecting you and your personal needs and beliefs.0 -
My usual rule is I don't care where he gets his appetite as long as he comes home for dinner. That sai I wouldn't be happy with my guy being a platinium member at his local strip club, a boys night out or a bucks - sure go for it but I'd like to think that a guy I'm dating would have better taste than to want to look at that all the time
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I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?0
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I've been to a strip club with guy friends when I was single and had a good time, but I wouldn't really like the idea of a boyfriend going. Porn is fine, there's that level of distance, but I think lap dances and the like are a little too up-close and personal. Just like I wouldn't like him going to a dance club and grinding with, spending money on, and flirting with another chick.
My boyfriend has never expressed interest in strip clubs, but I brought up the subject once. I said if he ever wanted to go with his guy friends they should go on amateur night and I'd sign up ;P Haha, he didn't go for that idea though.
He also said he wouldn't love the idea of me going to a male strip club and paying hunky, buff guys to dance up on me, so really this topic can apply to both genders. 0 -
I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?
Those are two completely different things.
& Last time I checked, pastors weren't being kidnapped, held against their will, beaten, raped, murdered for fighting back, psychologically & emotionally abused on a day-to-day basis..0 -
Before my husband was my husband, I took him to a strip club for his 21st birthday. It was fun. I just didn't realize the dancers would pay more attention to my female friend and I instead of the men we brought. *shrug*
I've heard that most strippers and porn stars really cannot stand men in real life... usually prefer to date women, so that doesn't suprise me. It's all the more funny because these men sit there fantasizing and paying a woman who, unless desperate for money would not give them the time of day.0 -
I'm sure the kids they molested were though. My point is there is evil everywhere so you can't judge the whole of anything by the bad apples that are mixed up in with the good.I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?
Those are two completely different things.
& Last time I checked, pastors weren't being kidnapped, held against their will, beaten, raped, murdered for fighting back, psychologically & emotionally abused on a day-to-day basis..0 -
I'm sure the kids they molested were though. My point is there is evil everywhere so you can't judge the whole of anything by the bad apples that are mixed up in with the good.I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?
Those are two completely different things.
& Last time I checked, pastors weren't being kidnapped, held against their will, beaten, raped, murdered for fighting back, psychologically & emotionally abused on a day-to-day basis..
Yeah, & what drove that molestation? The drive to sexually gratify themselves using someone else against their will.... i.e. Human trafficking for sexual slavery.....
Not judging, it's truth. 0 -
Looking at another girl, getting all jacked up, and then coming home to me, yah, he'd have to deal with it himself. Maybe he WANTS to come home to you for this "release" after watching a random womans naked T,P&A with your blessing. Or maybe he HAS to come home to you because he just can't take it anymore... too much build up there. Doesn't turn me on in the least.
It could be me, but it seems that some of you that are "pro" strip clubs are ticked off that some of us would not send our men there. I'm sensing some hostility for the opposing viewpoint here. There are way more women saying "Rah Rah" strip club than not. So you all MUST be right. Either that, or some of you really hate the idea, but go along with whatever your man wants to do. Just my opinion.
I honestly couldn't care less what other women "allow" their men to do or not do. I don't control what my man does and he doesn't control what I do. I'm secure enough to know where I stand with my husband and that's all that matters to me. Oh, and I don't believe this was a "right" or "wrong" issue. The question was if we minded. Some do and some don't, so what's the problem?
There is no problem. You replied to one of my messages with: "Hmmm...perhaps he should just "dump" somewhere else then. Whatever. "
So it seemed like you had a problem with the way I felt about the situation. I don't care if other men go to strip clubs at all - doesn't affect me personally at all.0 -
How does parents taking their kids to church then the priest molesting them while their there = human trafficking for sexual slavery? And don't get my wrong I'm not saying all people that go to church are bad people. Just like I'm saying not all people at strip clubs aren't bad either.
I'm sure the kids they molested were though. My point is there is evil everywhere so you can't judge the whole of anything by the bad apples that are mixed up in with the good.I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?
Those are two completely different things.
& Last time I checked, pastors weren't being kidnapped, held against their will, beaten, raped, murdered for fighting back, psychologically & emotionally abused on a day-to-day basis..
Yeah, & what drove that molestation? The drive to sexually gratify themselves using someone else against their will.... i.e. Human trafficking for sexual slavery.....
Not judging, it's truth.0 -
I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?
...My point is there is evil everywhere so you can't judge the whole of anything by the bad apples that are mixed up in with the good.
Those men are victims of lust, not promoters of it. They are the victims of organized crime. Which is why keeping men away from those places is a good thing. And yes, you had better be a damned good judge.
This "not judging" stuff is something only a fool would go for.0 -
How does parents taking their kids to church then the priest molesting them while their there = human trafficking for sexual slavery? And don't get my wrong I'm not saying all people that go to church are bad people. Just like I'm saying not all people at strip clubs aren't bad either.
I'm sure the kids they molested were though. My point is there is evil everywhere so you can't judge the whole of anything by the bad apples that are mixed up in with the good.I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?
Those are two completely different things.
& Last time I checked, pastors weren't being kidnapped, held against their will, beaten, raped, murdered for fighting back, psychologically & emotionally abused on a day-to-day basis..
Yeah, & what drove that molestation? The drive to sexually gratify themselves using someone else against their will.... i.e. Human trafficking for sexual slavery.....
Not judging, it's truth.
I said it's the same thing that drives the people. & I never said every person in a strip club is bad. I said there are strippers who are trafficked, & financially supporting strip clubs fuels the drive for that. You can't argue against that.0 -
So your saying organized crime is what made these priest have sex with young boys? From what I read not many of the priests spent a large amount of time at the local strip club before hand either...I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?
...My point is there is evil everywhere so you can't judge the whole of anything by the bad apples that are mixed up in with the good.
Those men are victims of lust, not promoters of it. They are the victims of organized crime. Which is why keeping men away from those places is a good thing. And yes, you had better be a damned good judge.
This "not judging" stuff is something only a fool would go for.
That being said my cousin worked as a stripper for a couple years while finishing up college and not once was she part of organized crime. Now she has her degree a good job and is able to support herself and her daughter working a regular job.0 -
Would men mind if their women stripped?
Id be out of it before her panties hit the floor
All right then. The answer to this question should be the same as the answer to 'do you mind if your men go to strip clubs'
Let't not have double standards here, people.0 -
How does parents taking their kids to church then the priest molesting them while their there = human trafficking for sexual slavery? And don't get my wrong I'm not saying all people that go to church are bad people. Just like I'm saying not all people at strip clubs aren't bad either.
I'm sure the kids they molested were though. My point is there is evil everywhere so you can't judge the whole of anything by the bad apples that are mixed up in with the good.I'm just curious about all the people saying that they wouldn't go because their run by organized crime or human sex trafficking and the such. Does this mean you wouldn't go to church cause of all the preachers that have got caught molesting young boys, stealing from the church they represent, being caught spending church funds on hookers?
Those are two completely different things.
& Last time I checked, pastors weren't being kidnapped, held against their will, beaten, raped, murdered for fighting back, psychologically & emotionally abused on a day-to-day basis..
Yeah, & what drove that molestation? The drive to sexually gratify themselves using someone else against their will.... i.e. Human trafficking for sexual slavery.....
Not judging, it's truth.
I said it's the same thing that drives the people. & I never said every person in a strip club is bad. I said there are strippers who are trafficked, & financially supporting strip clubs fuels the drive for that. You can't argue against that.
Well there's people that are trafficked to work in nail salon's , mexican restaurants, pick the fresh fruit and veggies you get from Wal-Mart, and put together all the fancy electronic equipment we enjoy everyday. Should we give all this stuff up also?
P.S. I can argue anything it's one of the great things I inherited from my uncle.0 -
Yeah, & what drove that molestation? The drive to sexually gratify themselves using someone else against their will.... i.e. Human trafficking for sexual slavery.....
Not judging, it's truth.
No. The fact that priests can't marry and have to lead a life of celibacy is what leads them to molesting boys.
You're just really trying hard to tie everything into human trafficking even when it makes zero sense.0 -
strip joints are for single men imho.0
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