Survey time: Should a guy pay on a first date?
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So if you are poor I guess you can't date...
Pretty much, unless you're creative. It's amazing the things you can find to do that cost little to nothing, and any real woman will appreciate the effort you put in to ensure she had a good time. But you'd better have a reason for being poor (student, off work injured, etc). Sitting home on the PS3 all day every day isn't going to cut it.
Creative is good, there are many things to do that cost little or nothing... if I'm not sure I'm really into someone I would just suggest talking over coffee... if there is a connection and you feel comfortable you can just stay in and cook or go for a walk in the park. Much more intimate than sitting in a restaurant anyway... and better for your waistline! lol0 -
Rightttt but we all know most guys dont want the girl who has to ask for dates. Unless you were friends prior, any girl asking total strangers out on dates looks totally desperate. Sorry to break it to everyone. But guys be honest here, would you be going after the woman that no one else even wants to ask out?
Are you kidding me? I've asked guys out plenty of times and never been turned down. Did it all the time in college, and not just to guys I already knew. I think men find it attractive when a woman goes after what she wants. Has nothing to do with being desperate, if men can play the field and go on dates with several different women before deciding to get serious with one, why can't women do the same? I seriously lived like a man in college...
And duh of course they're not gonna turn you down. They probably think its a free ticket to your drawers lol.
Another thing I wanna add is a man paying applies to potential relationshio dates. If you want a booty call, then it doesnt even matter
I make it known after a few dates what my expectations are... I want to do things for you because I want to, not because I have to. If it's expected, you're gone. I'll always pay for the first date. I asked her out, its only fair.
It's pretty easy to spot the take care of my types, usually little to no money, attractive to where they get enough attention to get away with it, just looking for someone to support them financially at the end of the day. The ones with the good careers don't get their panties in a wad spending 10 dollars on drinks after I spent 100 on dinner.
I'm not going to "pay" to have the privledge to hang out with a woman.
Well I have my own job, apartment, car, went to college and I'm pretty successful. I dont see why I have to settle for a guy who cant even plan a date.
Not planning is just lazy.
Expecting a man to always pay for every date and continue to have that expectation in a relationship? Selfish. If you have a job then seriously, fork out 30 dollars every once in a while.
The way I look at it. Traditional gender roles are stupid. I'd rather have a combined gross income of 300k-400k a year, each of us making ~150k-200k a year, and pay people to do the laundry, clean the house etc. vs. someone who makes 30k a year and cleans my clothes.0 -
A man should pay, no doubt! Never have a woman you ask out pay-- unless you never want to get a call from her again!
Sorry, but I'm not that shallow; I wouldn't date someone for a free meal or a night out on someone else. With that attitude, I'm surprised you even believe that women should call men back. It takes two people to have a relationship, and it takes respect.0 -
Wow...just wow.
So if a random girl is hitting on you at a bar or college party, you honestly think she wants a future relationship?
I'm not saying its bad to go out and hook up, but dont pretend like its something its not.0 -
Women wanted equal rights. You got it. Now, fork out the bill for the date
On average, women in the U.S. make about 24% less income than men. It isn't equal. I wish it were. I'd buy all the cranky folks on here an ice cream with that money. Or iced vegan coconut cream.
http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217/womens-earnings-and-income
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/01/wage_gap_numbers.html
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/13/10603040-the-worst-paying-cities-for-women?lite
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1983185,00.html0 -
Rightttt but we all know most guys dont want the girl who has to ask for dates. Unless you were friends prior, any girl asking total strangers out on dates looks totally desperate. Sorry to break it to everyone. But guys be honest here, would you be going after the woman that no one else even wants to ask out?
Are you kidding me? I've asked guys out plenty of times and never been turned down. Did it all the time in college, and not just to guys I already knew. I think men find it attractive when a woman goes after what she wants. Has nothing to do with being desperate, if men can play the field and go on dates with several different women before deciding to get serious with one, why can't women do the same? I seriously lived like a man in college...
And duh of course they're not gonna turn you down. They probably think its a free ticket to your drawers lol.
Another thing I wanna add is a man paying applies to potential relationshio dates. If you want a booty call, then it doesnt even matter
Pretending to be a man?? Are you serious? What century do you live in? You must have forgotten that we are all human and a woman can ask a guy out on a date just like a guy can ask a woman out on a date, its has nothing to do with pretending. If anything having the old fashion stereotypes is more pretending since its all done for show. A date is about two people getting to know each other or to have a good time anyways, not about who can be bought or who is owed.
BTW, my husband and I went half and half on our first date and I was the one who asked and we have been married for 11 years now. We split everything to the best we can (our funds are joint now since we're married, just easier for us to manage things). Mutual respect is important in a relationship and I'm glad I'm not caught into a "I'm owed this" just because I'm a female or one where the guy thinks I could of been "bought" he just because he is a guy, neither of those kind of relationships are founded on respect.
I know the comment wasn't towards me but that just irk me seeing such an ignorant post.0 -
NOPE...**** that.. split bill in half and done.0
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I'm old school, so i would pay regardless, however, things have changed greatly, online dating, stuff getting more expensive, people having to work more hours just to survive..
maybe the first dates doing dinner don't always need to happen, go out for coffee or something like that, cheaper, won't break the bank, shorter time so you can politely bow out if there is no spark.
but I never had to worry that I would ever date the type of girl that orders 6 lobster tails, 3 bottles of wine, etc..0 -
If he wants a second date then he should pay.....I'm more than happy to pay my way & will happily pay next time, but not for a first date.0
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Women wanted equal rights. You got it. Now, fork out the bill for the date
On average, women in the U.S. make about 24% less income than men. It isn't equal. I wish it were. I'd buy all the cranky folks on here an ice cream with that money. Or iced vegan coconut cream.
http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217/womens-earnings-and-income
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/01/wage_gap_numbers.html
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/13/10603040-the-worst-paying-cities-for-women?lite
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1983185,00.html
The income gap is due to job selection IMO.
My sister is a doctor and the other works in IT. They make as much or more than most men but they chose a career that pays more.0 -
He picked, it was thai, we shared bottle of wine and dish each. Oh and it get's better the food comes out and he serves himself and starts eating before I have even served myself.
Simple, dont see him again. Thanks but no thanks..........this is just bad manners.
Back when I was dating the guys asks you out, he pays, doesnt mean I wouldnt offer to pick up something, tickets, snacks tip. But in this situation he should not even have allowed you to see the bill. When I pay, I dont let my guest see the bill.0 -
personally I think That whoever asked whomever on the date should foot the bill... that being said I think that men should always offer to pay for the date ..
I have never had to pay for a date , not that I haven't ever done so, I am a huge gift giver .. and I ask for very little.. my whole concept on this thought has changed as of late and I think that you should be as spoiled as you spoil .. if that makes sense.. its hard being a giving person in a relationship with someone who is selfish.. in the beginning it make work on your devotion alone but it takes two to make it work and for both partners to feel valued and appreciated..0 -
You damn right he should pay. He should pay every single time they go out...until they have established a relationship. At that point, it should be alternated regularly, but still not a necessity.
I will NEVER let a woman pay on the first 3-4 dates. That's just wrong.
^ This is why women should try to pay for their share. To avoid the "Never let" types. It weeds them out.0 -
Women wanted equal rights. You got it. Now, fork out the bill for the date
On average, women in the U.S. make about 24% less income than men. It isn't equal. I wish it were. I'd buy all the cranky folks on here an ice cream with that money. Or iced vegan coconut cream.
http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217/womens-earnings-and-income
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/01/wage_gap_numbers.html
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/13/10603040-the-worst-paying-cities-for-women?lite
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1983185,00.html
The income gap is due to job selection IMO.
My sister is a doctor and the other works in IT. They make as much or more than most men but they chose a career that pays more.
I wish the entertainment industry would catch up with the IT/medical industries if that's true. In publishing, we all make less.0 -
He should cook the meal himself.0
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Whoever asks the person out should pay.
But, at least from my experience, the guy usually asks out the girl. So the guy pays for the first date, that's cool. I think then the girl should pay for the second date, or at least the third.0 -
Of course the man should pay. if he cant afford/doesnt want to pay, then why is he asking me out in the first place? i dont want to date a woman, i want to date a MAN.
The difference between men and women is in our chromosomes, not in some out-dated theory on who should pay (dating back to when most women didn't have money because they didn't work). Maybe he's asking you out because he thinks you're interesting or kind or open-minded or very attractive. Shame that all he's going to get is a ** young lady whose idea of a meaningful relationship is entertainment at someone else's expense. My comment may seem harsh to you, but if you were a man, my guess is you wouldn't hold that same opinion.
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Women wanted equal rights. You got it. Now, fork out the bill for the date
On average, women in the U.S. make about 24% less income than men. It isn't equal. I wish it were. I'd buy all the cranky folks on here an ice cream with that money. Or iced vegan coconut cream.
http://www.catalyst.org/publication/217/womens-earnings-and-income
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2009/01/wage_gap_numbers.html
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/13/10603040-the-worst-paying-cities-for-women?lite
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1983185,00.html
The income gap is due to job selection IMO.
My sister is a doctor and the other works in IT. They make as much or more than most men but they chose a career that pays more.
No I believe its calculated by industry. I know a lot of male engineers make more than women too.0 -
Pays whoever invites- regardless of gender.0
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I think the guy should pay as well! ESPECIALLY if he asked you out. Either way I think the guys should pay!0
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I read this wrong, thought it said "should a guy pay you on a first date" I was going to say "ya, cause then you have a pimp to answer to"... carry on0
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What a loser! I went on a date with a guy and he would not pay for my $3 salad. Even tho I gave his young son a $75 gift...wtf. No second date... oh, and his car broke down in the middle of no where and I sent a friend to save him. Only because he had a young son with him.... NEXT0
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I always go by the whoever asks for the date pays for the date. Especially on first dates I think this mentality is easier for everyone, no embarrassing talk about splitting the bill or who is paying. Now of course whoever isn't paying can offer to pay for some or their share, but I don't think it is fair Male or Female to ask someone out on a date and then expect them to pay all or their half. If you are going to do that then you should tell your date up front so they can have the chance to say no and that they don't wanna date a cheapskate lol0
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A man should pay on the first date unless you know him well or you don't plan on going on a second date with him.0
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The guy should pay but if you offer, it kind of sends the friend vibe so he probably thought he slipped into the dreraded frend zone! he could have halves though. That is the move of a vinegar bag.0
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I know the comment wasn't towards me but that just irk me seeing such an ignorant post.
Yep, ignorance is rampant on these forums.
For example...my quote below.You damn right he should pay. He should pay every single time they go out...until they have established a relationship. At that point, it should be alternated regularly, but still not a necessity.
I will NEVER let a woman pay on the first 3-4 dates. That's just wrong.
^ This is why women should try to pay for their share. To avoid the "Never let" types. It weeds them out.0 -
So if you are poor I guess you can't date...
Only if you are poor and dont know how to do anything but EAT for a date..........0 -
Of course the man should pay. if he cant afford/doesnt want to pay, then why is he asking me out in the first place? i dont want to date a woman, i want to date a MAN.
The difference between men and women is in our chromosomes, not in some out-dated theory on who should pay (dating back to when most women didn't have money because they didn't work). Maybe he's asking you out because he thinks you're interesting or kind or open-minded or very attractive. Shame that all he's going to get is a cheap, self-centered and sexist young lady whose idea of a meaningful relationship is entertainment at someone else's expense. My comment may seem harsh to you, but if you were a man, my guess is you wouldn't hold that same opinion.
So you honestly dont think men and women act differently socially and emotionally?0 -
A man should pay on the first date unless you know him well or you don't plan on going on a second date with him.
If i dont plan on seeing him again, theres no way in hell Im going to try to squeeze a meal out of him first. Thats just... well actually that is probably the definition of taking advantage0 -
forget all this
in the south we arm-wrestle for that sht0
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