I don't care about "losing pounds"... Male v Female?
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While the thread has somewhat disintegrated into drama and semantics (as they usually do), I think the original topic is interesting. When you are significantly overweight (ie. a 5'7 female over 300 lbs), the scale is sort of the only thing you know as a measure of weight, fitness and/or progress. I know that for my height I'm supposed to be about 145 at the high end - women are told what they should look like and weigh all the time (not going to happen by the way!) in media, magazines and doctor's offices. And so I watched the scale as it was a marker of the progress I was making, because the other changes that were happening took longer to recognize.
Before losing 65 lbs.. I didn't realise that I could expect so much more health and fitness out of my body. I have always been overweight, how was I to know there was a (potential) inner athlete in there? I started off just wanting to lose weight and I still have days that I am extremely frustrated as the scale doesn't move.
I am only now learning to appreciate that I can walk up 4 flights of stairs without being winded, that I've lost a few sizes in clothing, that my body is incredibly strong and getting stronger and that I actually crave only healthy food (most of the time) now. Perhaps this is the message men get often - that fitness, eating well and gaining muscle is the most important thing.. but I believe the general message out there for females (outside MFP) is that being thin is supreme (no matter how you get there).0 -
I like carrot cake
yea...I can't figure if Carrot Cake or Red Velvet Cake is the best...
I usually try to have both...
I don't like Fruit Cake like the OP does0 -
Carrot cake with cream cheese frosting - Phrak is speaking my language. Or...just simple yellow cake with chocolate frosting. Or chocolate mousse cake - that filling brings extra moistness and it's so delicious. I just want to eat all the cake. And listen to Rhianna.0
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Note - progress pics = good.
Five pictures of your abs, and that is all, and then using "but I look good so I know what I'm taking about" to back up anything you say on the threads = bad. This is my point.
If you read this and don't understand it, I'm sorry. If you read this and do understand it before ranting about how I'm judging people (without even judging them) then so be it.
And this is and never was targeted at Brett. If he's awesome, that's great - I'm glad he's awesome. I don't know him. You totally missed any point and might be thoroughly enriched by re-reading the thread.
Obviously reading is difficult so let me re-post your comments:Thank you! I am the same way - shirtless muscle pics = *kitten* that probably thinks he knows everything and is going to try to convince people on MFP of such, but really has no idea how little he knows.
^ This is the comment that I find incredibly rude and judgemental.I'm sorry you took it personally - I honestly do not know you, so I can't come to any conclusion, other than your abs aren't going to impress me. I'm sorry... I like brains better.
^ This is also very rude. It comes across as though you think the guys with abs here don't have brains or are nothing more than abs in a picture.
If that's their only picture, what should I think?
How about NOT thinking anything negative about them personally since you DO NOT KNOW THEM?
I fail to understand how you can take one picture and form some horrible opinion about another person. That really shows a lot more about you than it does them.
I never formed a horrible opinion about anyone specific. My point? I'm likely not going to add you as a friend if you only have pictures of abs. I'm sorry. I don't find that helpful to me. I'm happy it works for you.
That is not what you said at all. You called them "*kitten*," which IS a horrible opinion about someone based on a picture and nothing else.0 -
Phrak:
What kind of cake gives you the best lifts?
Please respond or negs.
well my best lifts come from carrot cake. Something in that cream cheese icing lets me squat 800lbs. But tonight im keeping it a little lighter, going with a clean angel food cake.
Wait? Angel Food Cake?
I had some of that a week ago before my lift....That's some powerful cake
You should have it with pineapple!!!
Not bad...maybe I put a cherry on top and serve it to the OP0 -
Why were you in the "Boobie Friday" thread if you're never impressed with those kinds of pics?A) I'm into men.
It's pretty well known around here, obviously. Apparently you know about it.
C) I think women can do better. I think men can do better.
You obviously missed my question. Why would you open up a thread titled "Boobie Friday" if you're "not impressed" with those types of pics?
Of course I know about the Boobie Friday, Thong Thursday, and even the Taco Tuesday threads. I'm wondering why you would go in those threads and look at the pics if you don't like them.0 -
Phrak:
What kind of cake gives you the best lifts?
Please respond or negs.
well my best lifts come from carrot cake. Something in that cream cheese icing lets me squat 800lbs. But tonight im keeping it a little lighter, going with a clean angel food cake.
Wait? Angel Food Cake?
I had some of that a week ago before my lift....That's some powerful cake
You should have it with pineapple!!!
That is an excellent suggestion. My pineapple intake has been low, and my protein intake high. This is not a good situation.0 -
The antagonizing part is that you are finding every post that you disagree with and insulting them (you insulted me anyway). There is nothing wrong with progress pics, just like there is nothing wrong with anyone's opinion on it.
Where did I insult you?0 -
Hey all, thanks for the entertainment! Sure spiced up my boring day in the office!0
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Phrak:
What kind of cake gives you the best lifts?
Please respond or negs.
well my best lifts come from carrot cake. Something in that cream cheese icing lets me squat 800lbs. But tonight im keeping it a little lighter, going with a clean angel food cake.
Wait? Angel Food Cake?
I had some of that a week ago before my lift....That's some powerful cake
You should have it with pineapple!!!
That is an excellent suggestion. My pineapple intake has been low, and my protein intake high. This is not a good situation.
Pineapple and Protein!
That's beast Mode0 -
As to the shirtless issue, I think we just need to recognize that people celebrate their successes in different ways. Some do it privately, others want to declare it to all. The point is that they have achieved success, confidence and pride in their accomplishments and I am happy for them.. however they want to put it out there.0
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Why were you in the "Boobie Friday" thread if you're never impressed with those kinds of pics?A) I'm into men. It's pretty well known around here, obviously. Apparently you know about it.
C) I think women can do better. I think men can do better.
You obviously missed my question. Why would you open up a thread titled "Boobie Friday" if you're "not impressed" with those types of pics?
Of course I know about the Boobie Friday, Thong Thursday, and even the Taco Tuesday threads. I'm wondering why you would go in those threads and look at the pics if you don't like them.
I don't know who did it (I'm not going to read all these ridiculous comments), but someone got Patti to say Taco Tuesday, lmfao! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:0 -
Phrak:
What kind of cake gives you the best lifts?
Please respond or negs.
well my best lifts come from carrot cake. Something in that cream cheese icing lets me squat 800lbs. But tonight im keeping it a little lighter, going with a clean angel food cake.
Wait? Angel Food Cake?
I had some of that a week ago before my lift....That's some powerful cake
You should have it with pineapple!!!
That is an excellent suggestion. My pineapple intake has been low, and my protein intake high. This is not a good situation.
Pineapple and Proein!
That's beast Mode
You should grill the pineapple, it makes it delicious.0 -
Why were you in the "Boobie Friday" thread if you're never impressed with those kinds of pics?A) I'm into men. It's pretty well known around here, obviously. Apparently you know about it.
C) I think women can do better. I think men can do better.
You obviously missed my question. Why would you open up a thread titled "Boobie Friday" if you're "not impressed" with those types of pics?
Of course I know about the Boobie Friday, Thong Thursday, and even the Taco Tuesday threads. I'm wondering why you would go in those threads and look at the pics if you don't like them.
Never went into BF - and didn't even know about the others. I do find it interesting that women complain about the ideals that are set for them yet continue to do things like start threads like "Taco Tuesday" - are you serious? That's pretty sad.0 -
Hey, nothing wrong with running. Great cardio transfers itself to MANY sports, including fighting (which as you know requires a hell of a lot of cardiovascular endurance if you want to make it past the first round). At least running trains you to run fast (which can come in handy where I live, as we have many bears and cougars around and I hike a lot). Last I checked....you can't ellipitcal away from a bear
I have seen this, on a street, in the city I live in. Granted, we don't have bears.0 -
I like carrot cake
Agreed.0 -
That is an excellent suggestion. My pineapple intake has been low, and my protein intake high. This is not a good situation.
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its really sad that people spend there day TROLLING MFP message boards just to be *kitten*....and write stupid crap... just saying0
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When a user post a reply on the message board you will see on the left hand side of the screen that user picture along with there MFP name, also you will notice a small image of a down arrow. If you click on that arrow, one of the options that comes up is "Ignore this user'. If you select this you will no longer be bother of pictures/responses from that particular user. Great function, use it all the time.
Excellent !On a related note... Men who pose shirtless in front of their bathroom mirror, and use their cell phone to take a picture like a 13 year old girl... bother me.
Well said and congratulations on how well you've done :drinker:
And you'll probably need to use it on me. Because after a lifetime of being fat I have finally earned a body I'm proud of and I don't plan to hide it because it bothers you.
13 year old girl... bite me.0 -
I like carrot cake
Agreed.
nah...Fruit Cake is more your thing0 -
If that's their only picture, what should I think?
You should think... "Wow! This person is really committed to their health and fitness." For you to draw any other conclusion would make you a hypocrite. You are saying that you don't want people to judge you based on your looks, but then turn around and judge people based on theirs. Your insecurities are showing!
Why does someone always feel the need to look down on others for any reason that they can pull out of their butts? In this instance, the OP and some others are looking down on people for 'showing off' in their profile pics... but seriously... what business is it of yours? If showing off their bodies makes them feel good, then why are you even concerned? Because this is the internet and unless you are familiar with that individual you have nothing else to judge EXCEPT for their profile pic.
Focus on yourself.0 -
Note - progress pics = good.
Five pictures of your abs, and that is all, and then using "but I look good so I know what I'm taking about" to back up anything you say on the threads = bad. This is my point.
If you read this and don't understand it, I'm sorry. If you read this and do understand it before ranting about how I'm judging people (without even judging them) then so be it.
And this is and never was targeted at Brett. If he's awesome, that's great - I'm glad he's awesome. I don't know him. You totally missed any point and might be thoroughly enriched by re-reading the thread.
Obviously reading is difficult so let me re-post your comments:Thank you! I am the same way - shirtless muscle pics = *kitten* that probably thinks he knows everything and is going to try to convince people on MFP of such, but really has no idea how little he knows.
^ This is the comment that I find incredibly rude and judgemental.I'm sorry you took it personally - I honestly do not know you, so I can't come to any conclusion, other than your abs aren't going to impress me. I'm sorry... I like brains better.
^ This is also very rude. It comes across as though you think the guys with abs here don't have brains or are nothing more than abs in a picture.
If that's their only picture, what should I think?
How about NOT thinking anything negative about them personally since you DO NOT KNOW THEM?
I fail to understand how you can take one picture and form some horrible opinion about another person. That really shows a lot more about you than it does them.
I never formed a horrible opinion about anyone specific. My point? I'm likely not going to add you as a friend if you only have pictures of abs. I'm sorry. I don't find that helpful to me. I'm happy it works for you.
That is not what you said at all. You called them "*kitten*," which IS a horrible opinion about someone based on a picture and nothing else.
Re-read. If you come on with your shirtless pic and tell me everything I'm doing is wrong and you know it because you have peer reviewed studies to back it up and you know that it's the truth, I'm going to think you are a douchewaffle. You can't possibly know more than the entire medical community combined, and nothing is absolute. Thinking you do while pushing your picture as "evidence" is what makes a *kitten*.0 -
I'm looking to lose pounds. Then I'm looking to put them back on and actually have some muscle! The goal is to be fit, and not skinny fat for me.0
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Hes a fighter, we got a real badass over here.
why haven't I seen these legs before?
are we not acquainted? we should be.
my names Kym nice to meet you.
as far as this whole scale thing goes .. yes its about feeling better but .. lets push this whole not taking pictures of perfection thread to the other spectrum .. why not post the great results..
people have before pictures as well, should those be censored ..?
I could care less what people post either way .. if you feel comfortable with your shirt off then by all means ADD me.. ;p
if you dont then who cares..
lets not take away from the fact that everyone needs their own motivation whatever it is .. and that sometimes it comes in the form of pics, or peoples responses to pics to say the webcam pic is better then a mirror pic is like saying abs built one way are less desirable then another way ...
if they are healthy and they want to show it off let them maybe that didn't have a ring girl wondering the house with a camera whispering 'cheese' .
I obviously am a fan of half naked pics .. hahha so by all means motivate in some other way ..then discounting people who are just sharing the love in whatever way is most convenient .you do seem to get a rise .. out of people... use it constructively.
my two cents.0 -
For me, it's about getting off this slide. I was steadily gaining weight over the past couple years, and I need to stop! I've never been overweight, so it's not so much about looking better as it is from keeping myself from getting too heavy.0
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When a user post a reply on the message board you will see on the left hand side of the screen that user picture along with there MFP name, also you will notice a small image of a down arrow. If you click on that arrow, one of the options that comes up is "Ignore this user'. If you select this you will no longer be bother of pictures/responses from that particular user. Great function, use it all the time.
Excellent !On a related note... Men who pose shirtless in front of their bathroom mirror, and use their cell phone to take a picture like a 13 year old girl... bother me.
And you'll probably need to use it on me. Because after a lifetime of being fat I have finally earned a body I'm proud of and I don't plan to hide it because it bothers you.
13 year old girl... bite me.
When I reach goal I'm gonna be naked all the time, I'm only putting pants on when my kids come over.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Excellent, love it lol0 -
Never went into BF - and didn't even know about the others. I do find it interesting that women complain about the ideals that are set for them yet continue to do things like start threads like "Taco Tuesday" - are you serious? That's pretty sad.
Then how would you know who was in that thread? Here is the comment you made that suggests you DID go into the BF thread:Ahhhh, yes... but if I remember correctly you are one of those who loves to post half naked pictures of herself too - in a Boobie Friday thread or something similar?
Yup. That's your quote.0 -
First, Brett - I can't help if that's my first impression. Unfortunately, there are others who make it far too easy to come to that conclusion. Do not take it personally - there are others who are ranting with their "broscience" and peer reviewed studies that only view one side and can just as easily be proved wrong by other peer reviewed studies.... and they spout all their information like it is the gospel truth when in reality when it comes to metabolism, the endocrine system, and weight loss we know practically nothing.
I'm sorry you took it personally - I honestly do not know you, so I can't come to any conclusion, other than your abs aren't going to impress me. I'm sorry... I like brains better.
There are so many different things I could chime in about on this thread, but I'm going to stick with this one.
Brett's brain is just as, if not more, impressive than his abs. And that goes for several of the guys on my FL who DESERVE to show off their hard work. It isn't about just vanity, it's about saying Yes, you CAN do it, just like I did.
Ahhhh, yes... but if I remember correctly you are one of those who loves to post half naked pictures of herself too - in a Boobie Friday thread or something similar? Perhaps I'm wrong. I was just never impressed with the posting-pictures-of-myself-fishing-for-compliments-from-people-I-don't-know. But that's just me.... I'd rather be complimented on the type of person I am than how I look in panties. Seems a little more meaningful.
I love particpating in Boobie Friday AND Thong Thursday...and whatever bathing suit threads there may be...its FUN..and i like how my hard work is paying off...i enjoy seeing peoples bodies.0 -
While the thread has somewhat disintegrated into drama and semantics (as they usually do), I think the original topic is interesting. When you are significantly overweight (ie. a 5'7 female over 300 lbs), the scale is sort of the only thing you know as a measure of weight, fitness and/or progress. I know that for my height I'm supposed to be about 145 at the high end - women are told what they should look like and weigh all the time (not going to happen by the way!) in media, magazines and doctor's offices. And so I watched the scale as it was a marker of the progress I was making, because the other changes that were happening took longer to recognize.
Before losing 65 lbs.. I didn't realise that I could expect so much more health and fitness out of my body. I have always been overweight, how was I to know there was a (potential) inner athlete in there? I started off just wanting to lose weight and I still have days that I am extremely frustrated as the scale doesn't move.
I am only now learning to appreciate that I can walk up 4 flights of stairs without being winded, that I've lost a few sizes in clothing, that my body is incredibly strong and getting stronger and that I actually crave only healthy food (most of the time) now. Perhaps this is the message men get often - that fitness, eating well and gaining muscle is the most important thing.. but I believe the general message out there for females (outside MFP) is that being thin is supreme (no matter how you get there).
Exactly!!!!!! My original point is that I personally don't care about "pounds lost." Much like "BMI" I think it's the wrong focus... for me anyway.
As for my comment about guys posing in front of their toilets like teenage girls... I stand by that. 0 -
On a related note... Men who pose shirtless in front of their bathroom mirror, and use their cell phone to take a picture like a 13 year old girl... bother me.
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i'm a female and i hate it when i see a phone in the picture. simply use a timed camera or get creative!0
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