guns or no guns?

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  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    Lol at people happily exclaiming "PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE!!!"


    THIS!

    we all know, thanks tips!
  • TXBelle1174
    TXBelle1174 Posts: 615 Member
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    While it's true that guns dont kill people, people do, guns make it easier for people to do it. They give people a sense of power, and that can become consuming. Making it harder for people to get them will naturally reduce the amount that there are. Sure, crims will always have them, but at least then its only the hardcore crims that will get them, not just your average liquor store robber.

    Anti-gun.

    Are you an American with common sense or are you from somewhere else?

    Yeah, because no one ever robbed, raped, killed, maimed, or molested anyone with anything OTHER than a gun. Next we will ban butcher knives and baseball bats.. oh, and dont forget cars. I mean, there is an awful lot of vehicular manslaughter going around. We should make them harder to get.
  • CrueChix
    CrueChix Posts: 47
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    This crap topic always comes up with a mass shooting happens. Gun control will just keep guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. The criminal element will always get their hands on guns. Nothing would've stopped this guy in CO. You can't stop crazy.
  • jodycoady
    jodycoady Posts: 598 Member
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    Pro: Because John Wayne movies would suck.

    Edited to add my point of view...

    Let's put it this way: If Ozzy Osbourne told you to go kill yourself in a song, and you did....you're a nutbar. Don't blame Ozzy........a gun is very useful but not in a nutbar's (or god forbid - a child's) hands...

    I hate guns, they are kinda scary to me, but if someone invaded my home, I'd like to have a loaded gun handy.

    If I'm wrong, then I will humbly hear your view.
  • Bobby_Clerici
    Bobby_Clerici Posts: 1,828 Member
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    guns don't kill people. people kill people.

    so...pro-gun.

    and yes, i am also one of those hippie liberal scum you hear about.
    You mean "hippie liberal pistol packing scum"...lol
  • CrueChix
    CrueChix Posts: 47
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    gunyardsignsplash.jpg

    Well that person is just lovely. What a great human.

    That sign is awesome!!
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    The problem with folks who want to ban guns - as its already been said - guns do not kill people, it is just the tool used to accomplish what the intent was. That is like blaming the fork for making a person fat. So are you going to ban forks? shoot might as well add spoons, plates, cups, etc.

    I had this debate on my FB page - and people do not get that theaters do not allow guns in there, so any person in there was doing right by NOT having their weapon on them, because they were following the law. Making gun laws on infringes upon law abiding citizens, it will not stop a crack head on the corner from getting one. There is always a way around it somehow.

    it actually isn't a probably with the folks who want gun control....it is the problem of the people who are pro gun that don't get the idea of gun control

    we know that people kill people, we aren't stupid

    i am telling you right now that it would not have happened to the extent that it did had guns been in more control over there. our shootings in canada are, mostly, gang related with illegal firearms and seldom hit the person that is being shot at, but this **** happens anyway anywhere.

    and to add, it doesn't happen to the extent. i feel pretty safe going to the movies. and if something does happen, i know the deaths won't be as high as it was in colorado, unless there is an explosive or something.
  • elmarko123
    elmarko123 Posts: 89
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.
  • 2143661
    2143661 Posts: 566 Member
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    aww you know how to google...that is so cute!!
  • sjmgde
    sjmgde Posts: 381 Member
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    so much for a single word answer. LOL
  • lisahale
    lisahale Posts: 56
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    pretty sweet shotgun you have there!!!
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
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    had someone been carrying during one of these tragic events...id be willing to bet the body count would be lower.
    try that *kitten* in NH, TX...any other big 2nd amendment state...
  • Sockimobi
    Sockimobi Posts: 541
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    gunyardsignsplash.jpg

    Well that person is just lovely. What a great human.

    That sign is awesome!!

    No it's not.
  • mistigoodwin
    mistigoodwin Posts: 411 Member
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    Pro-gun!!
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    you are going to get a lot of: people kill people remarks lol
  • elmarko123
    elmarko123 Posts: 89
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    aww you know how to google...that is so cute!!
    If only you did.....
  • lisahale
    lisahale Posts: 56
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    PRO GUN!

    My shotgun. : )

    2684_1044935204465_327086_n.jpg


    Pretty Sweet shotgun you have there !
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    had someone been carrying during one of these tragic events...id be willing to bet the body count would be lower.
    try that *kitten* in NH, TX...any other big 2nd amendment state...

    i doubt it, you fools would probably end up shooting the wrong target in the dark with tear gas brewing

    not to mention things happen so fast and people panic...
  • Sockimobi
    Sockimobi Posts: 541
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    aww you know how to google...that is so cute!!

    Googling isn't only for clever people. Have a go yourself.
  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
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    Anti Guns.

    Pro Evolution to a more civilized society, where people do not use guns on one another.

    Yeah good luck with that.