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  • elmarko123
    elmarko123 Posts: 89
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    you are going to get a lot of: people kill people remarks lol
    True... but they can't argue with the facts.
  • fiveohmike
    fiveohmike Posts: 1,297 Member
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    aww you know how to google...that is so cute!!
    If only you did.....


    ignoring I guess:

    http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
  • mfp_junkie
    mfp_junkie Posts: 359
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    had someone been carrying during one of these tragic events...id be willing to bet the body count would be lower.
    try that *kitten* in NH, TX...any other big 2nd amendment state...

    What state is Fort Hood in?
  • Feathil
    Feathil Posts: 163 Member
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    In Ireland, even the POLICE don't have guns. They have a truncheon and (as of 3 years ago) pepper spray. If they need guns they need to call in the special arms division, and they're only really in Dublin/Limerick/Cork for tackling the drug dealing families.

    The only real shootings that go on are between drug dealers, but you never ever hear of a school shooting or anything ridiculous like that.
  • GetinLeanAndFit
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    PRO-GUN
  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
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    had someone been carrying during one of these tragic events...id be willing to bet the body count would be lower.
    try that *kitten* in NH, TX...any other big 2nd amendment state...

    i doubt it, you fools would probably end up shooting the wrong target in the dark with tear gas brewing

    not to mention things happen so fast and people panic...

    You fools?? I thought you were the one getting upset earlier for thinking "pro-gun" people were calling "anti-gun" people stupid???
  • elmarko123
    elmarko123 Posts: 89
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    aww you know how to google...that is so cute!!
    If only you did.....


    ignoring I guess:

    http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
    Hmmm.

    Information from the CIA factbook & United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime VS some pro-gun redneck website with pay-pay donations.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......
  • fiveohmike
    fiveohmike Posts: 1,297 Member
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    Stats from the city with the STRICTEST gun control measure in the nation:

    State District of Columbia
    Total murders 131
    Total firearms, 2010 99
    % change, 2009-10 -12
    Handguns murders 32

    Firearms, % of all murders 75.57
    Firearms murders per 100,000 pop 16
    Firearms robberies per 100,000 pop 255.98
    Firearms assaults per 100,000 pop 99.25




    Cant even own a gun there...how are so many gun crimes happening there?
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    aww you know how to google...that is so cute!!
    If only you did.....


    ignoring I guess:

    http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

    surveys are often skewed, looking at actual data relating to gun deaths is probably more apt. people lie on surveys all the time or aren't in touch with reality when answering. not to mention leading questions and a whole bunch of other things that impact research results.
  • fiveohmike
    fiveohmike Posts: 1,297 Member
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    aww you know how to google...that is so cute!!
    If only you did.....


    ignoring I guess:

    http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
    Hmmm.

    Information from the CIA factbook & United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime VS some pro-gun redneck website with pay-pay donations.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

    You obviously didnt go to the site.
  • ki4yxo
    ki4yxo Posts: 709 Member
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    For my US friends that want to understand gun death rates compared to Canada.

    All stats are per 100,000 people, per year. This allows for a straight forward comparison:

    Murders: US 4.55 Canada 1.58
    Murders by guns: US 2.97 Canada .54 (this is where I get the stat that the US gun death rate is 6x that of Canada)
    Non-gun murder rate: US 1.58 Canada 1.04

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence


    Population Canada 2011 33,476,688
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada

    Population United States 2010 308,745,538
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States

    Look up Kennesaw, GA
  • fiveohmike
    fiveohmike Posts: 1,297 Member
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    How about this one.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

    Murder rate with firearm statistics per 100,000

    US Average - 2.84 per 100,000.

    Texas - 3.14. per 100,000
    Washington - 1.38 per 100,000
    New York - 2.64.per 100,00

    UK - 0.07 per 100,000.

    Care to admit you are totally wrong?

    Just for extra clarity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Intentional homicide rates by country (any weapon or method).

    USA - 4.8 per 100,000

    UK - 1.23 per 100,000.

    Care to explain why that is then?.

    aww you know how to google...that is so cute!!
    If only you did.....


    ignoring I guess:

    http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

    surveys are often skewed, looking at actual data relating to gun deaths is probably more apt. people lie on surveys all the time or aren't in touch with reality when answering. not to mention leading questions and a whole bunch of other things that impact research results.

    There is only one survey in there. The rest are facts from the DOJ resources.
  • jpipes17
    jpipes17 Posts: 41 Member
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    Pro-Gun
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
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    had someone been carrying during one of these tragic events...id be willing to bet the body count would be lower.
    try that *kitten* in NH, TX...any other big 2nd amendment state...

    What state is Fort Hood in?

    point goes to you. touche.
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    stats can:

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  • fiveohmike
    fiveohmike Posts: 1,297 Member
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    had someone been carrying during one of these tragic events...id be willing to bet the body count would be lower.
    try that *kitten* in NH, TX...any other big 2nd amendment state...

    What state is Fort Hood in?

    point goes to you. touche.

    You are not allowed to carry firearms on a military base unless you are an MP.
  • elmarko123
    elmarko123 Posts: 89
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    Stats from the city with the STRICTEST gun control measure in the nation:

    State District of Columbia
    Total murders 131
    Total firearms, 2010 99
    % change, 2009-10 -12
    Handguns murders 32

    Firearms, % of all murders 75.57
    Firearms murders per 100,000 pop 16
    Firearms robberies per 100,000 pop 255.98
    Firearms assaults per 100,000 pop 99.25




    Cant even own a gun there...how are so many gun crimes happening there?
    I forgot, you have border searches whenever you pass between states to ensure guns don't get moved around.... oh wai....

    I fogot about all those border checkpoints you have.... <roll eyes>
  • mustgetmuscles1
    mustgetmuscles1 Posts: 3,346 Member
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    had someone been carrying during one of these tragic events...id be willing to bet the body count would be lower.
    try that *kitten* in NH, TX...any other big 2nd amendment state...

    What state is Fort Hood in?

    point goes to you. touche.

    Except that all the soldier were prohibited form carrying firearms on base.
  • fiveohmike
    fiveohmike Posts: 1,297 Member
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    stats can:

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    So people still kill people without guns?
  • brandiwells1
    brandiwells1 Posts: 83 Member
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    gunyardsignsplash.jpg

    Well that person is just lovely. What a great human.

    That sign is awesome!!

    No it's not.

    I love that sign!!!!