I'm getting a little tired of this to be honest
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a very good point and nicely made.0
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Every single day I see multiple sarcastic posts mocking certain commonly held beliefs, ideologies, broscience claims, goals, etc. in regards to health and fitness. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way but it's getting REALLY old. Like every time I open a thread and realize "...oh it's one of these..." I peace out.
Be honest people. There was also a time when you didn't know much about health or nutrition. Most people on MFP are here because they are trying to make a change. They are trying to learn more about how they can improve their health. No need to be snarky because someone brings up starvation mode, for example. We've all grown up hearing certain things about what's good and what's bad as far as nutrition goes so why be so mean when someone brings up one of those topics? You probably held those beliefs at one point in time yourself. I just think it would be nice if more people were willing to be supportive and tactful, instead of mocking. With the type of posts I mentioned above, I know you're just trying to have fun and all, but in my opinion, it's not kind or supportive at all. No one should ever be made to feel alienated by people who "know better" or know more, before they even get a chance to get started on their journey.
So, anyway, that's all I wanted to say. Thanks guys.
We need a "like" button!0 -
What do you mean by rainbows and unicorns?
Good intentions..0 -
Do you realize how many times *this* topic has been talked about? Just saying... Some people are snarky, but there's the same amount of people out there who are just too damn sensitive. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude, but it is what it is. It's an internet forum. It's not gonna be sunshine and butterflies
It doesn't have to be "sunshine and butterfiles" But you do catch more flies with honey than vinegar...as my mother taught me.... Someone will be more likely to take the advice you are giving if it is delivered in a helpful and not hurtful way. You can be stern and to the point without being rude and disrespectful. We are all adults. This isn't high school anymore.0 -
Just a city boy, born and raised in south Detroit
Hold on to that feelin, street lights, people ooooo ooo ooooohhhhhh \m/dont stop believin.......
that reminds me of a story........there was just a small town girl living in the lonely world who took the midnight train going anywhere \m/
He took the midnight train goin' anywhere0 -
I am offended by Journey.
Just a city boy, born and raised in south Detroit
Hold on to that feelin, street lights, people ooooo ooo ooooohhhhhh \m/dont stop believin.......
that reminds me of a story........there was just a small town girl living in the lonely world who took the midnight train going anywhere \m/
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Do you realize how many times *this* topic has been talked about? Just saying... Some people are snarky, but there's the same amount of people out there who are just too damn sensitive. I'm not saying it's ok to be rude, but it is what it is. It's an internet forum. It's not gonna be sunshine and butterflies
If people get more support from an anerexic forum - than people trying lose weight healthy then somethings wrong!
Yes I have been in those forums because I got really bad with my weight took a good friends show me here - and I tell you those girls support eachother ALOT.
It's a scary thought that is to me.
as there's young girls on here wanting lose weight and because they are in a sensative time of their life and can't handle mean people they might go to other 'diet' forums and might not be as healthy as this one.
I'm very sensative about my weight and to be honest in real life I get alot of mean people commenting, On other char forums I used get called 'fat' and to be fair I thought being on a website like this where everyone is going through same journey I 'd have abit more support!0 -
Great Post!!! Very well said!!0
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I think just a little politeness wouldn't be out of the questions when trying to explain something to someone who is new. But of course, everyone has a right to do what they want. And it is true that anyone can just not read something that bothers them or get out of the forums. I think she is just trying to say she doesn't like negativity when someone is new and just trying to find some help. It may be someone who has struggled for a long time and maybe they don't know how to go about finding their answers. I agree. No one is forcing anyone to be happy all the time, just a little bit of politeness could go a long way. I think that when people use the internet they dont' think about being polite because they are somewhat anonymous. If you wouldn't say it in real life, maybe run that filter through your post before saying it. Good information is always helpful, but also presenting it in a non snarky way isn't that much of a challenge.0
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I think just a little politeness wouldn't be out of the questions when trying to explain something to someone who is new. But of course, everyone has a right to do what they want. And it is true that anyone can just not read something that bothers them or get out of the forums. I think she is just trying to say she doesn't like negativity when someone is new and just trying to find some help. It may be someone who has struggled for a long time and maybe they don't know how to go about finding their answers. I agree. No one is forcing anyone to be happy all the time, just a little bit of politeness could go a long way. I think that when people use the internet they dont' think about being polite because they are somewhat anonymous. If you wouldn't say it in real life, maybe run that filter through your post before saying it. Good information is always helpful, but also presenting it in a non snarky way isn't that much of a challenge.
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Definitely agree, this is why most times I avoid posting because someone always has something smart to say, I've never once been rude to anyone so I won't take it from anyone either.0
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They're not mean or sarcastic posts... they're idiot *****slaps. Think of them as a kind of smelling salts to wake up sleeping fools.0
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when someone posts a picture of a female body build and says "i don't want to look like this, so i'm going to not do any strength training," you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone posts up "why am i not losing weight" and their diary shows a sub-1000 calorie, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone severely overweight says they can't somehow can't eat more then 1200 calories, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone asks what is the "absolute best way to build muscle/reduce back fat/get a thigh gap" you're going to get a snarky response.
but what i hate (and i try not to post in those threads) is when someone asks how to get the quickest results possible, like, 6 weeks or less. in a way they're saying that all the time and effort that i've been putting in for this last year mean nothing, that i could've done in just six week. because if i post in that thread, i'll get perma-banned because i'll fly off the handle.
THIS!! so very much THIS!!
i will admit, readily and without much remorse, that i am VERY sarcastic. it's just how i'm set. that said, if there's an honest question, from someone with 2 posts, i - and most of my sarcastic brethren - tend to give the answer first. you'll still get the sarcasm.. but the answer will be there too.
however, like Apollo says above, if you're being rediculous or trying to tout that there is a "miracle" out there - then you will get shat upon with the utmost hilarity.0 -
when someone posts a picture of a female body build and says "i don't want to look like this, so i'm going to not do any strength training," you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone posts up "why am i not losing weight" and their diary shows a sub-1000 calorie, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone severely overweight says they can't somehow can't eat more then 1200 calories, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone asks what is the "absolute best way to build muscle/reduce back fat/get a thigh gap" you're going to get a snarky response.
but what i hate (and i try not to post in those threads) is when someone asks how to get the quickest results possible, like, 6 weeks or less. in a way they're saying that all the time and effort that i've been putting in for this last year mean nothing, that i could've done in just six week. because if i post in that thread, i'll get perma-banned because i'll fly off the handle.
This
There are nice people and not so nice people in the world. There are people who get a kick out of being mean to other people so that they can get a rise out of them. The one thing that I hate is when people post a question and then they refuse to accept the answer, arguing why that won't work for them.
Then there are OPs who I wonder about why they posted the thread. In truth, I think some people post threads that are argumentative so that they get their thread posted in the newsfeed. 'Oh, look my thread made the top five!'. Come on, if you post a thread about eating only 600 calories a day and still not losing weight, do you really think that all you are going to get is support? Someplace back in that person's wee tiny brain there is a cell saying, "Hey, let's see how the **** hits the fan with this one". Okay. Some people post things that are just asking for negative comments. Then again, some people post negative comments on posts that are fair questions.
In the end, though, there is one thing that you have control of --- your own emotions. When someone posts a negative response to something that I post, I shrug my shoulders and move on. We are all adults here, but some choose to act like children. That's life. I know that you posted this to get people to realize that their behavior is bad, but please realize that no matter what you post, you won't change these people. Some may not even realize how caustic their postings are and this may be due to lack of social skills in general.
For me, I read threads with one expectation - it will eventually deteriorate. If it does, my expectations have been met. If it doesn't deteriorate, then I am pleasantly surprised. Either way, I am never disappointed.0 -
when someone posts a picture of a female body build and says "i don't want to look like this, so i'm going to not do any strength training," you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone posts up "why am i not losing weight" and their diary shows a sub-1000 calorie, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone severely overweight says they can't somehow can't eat more then 1200 calories, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone asks what is the "absolute best way to build muscle/reduce back fat/get a thigh gap" you're going to get a snarky response.
but what i hate (and i try not to post in those threads) is when someone asks how to get the quickest results possible, like, 6 weeks or less. in a way they're saying that all the time and effort that i've been putting in for this last year mean nothing, that i could've done in just six week. because if i post in that thread, i'll get perma-banned because i'll fly off the handle.
THIS!! so very much THIS!!
i will admit, readily and without much remorse, that i am VERY sarcastic. it's just how i'm set. that said, if there's an honest question, from someone with 2 posts, i - and most of my sarcastic brethren - tend to give the answer first. you'll still get the sarcasm.. but the answer will be there too.
however, like Apollo says above, if you're being rediculous or trying to tout that there is a "miracle" out there - then you will get shat upon with the utmost hilarity.
I love my friends with personality...
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I think some of the mfp old timers it's got to head a little as I agree sometimes they forget there's genuine newbies that know NOTHING and want ALOT of advice, I feel bad for some people - i'm 8 weeks in and have my bad days and had to delete some of friends as all they wrote was 'your doing everything wrong' and i'd say can you tell me whats wrong and they'd say something like 'do you really not know?' and i feel worse than I did starting!
I don't care who's hot in here
I don't care what your avvie picture is
I don't care what religion you are
I don't care colour of your skin
I don't care if you have 500lb to lose or 5lb to lose or have to gain weight
I do care if your a nice person - this i mean give constructive critism too
I do care If you want this - and you do thats why your here
I just dont get it where all here for same reason yet everyone as fights
Yes most of us still struggle, still have junk food, still do things wrong but thats what we here for to help eachother, I even see some people in here mock people who hae gotten fat or 2 skinny - that can be really hurtful to some as there's people in here trying to recover from eating disorders - EVERYONE in here are here because they are TRYING
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You go girl!! I completely agree!! I also have something to add... Everyone is not as "focused" as some, it is a struggle for a lot of people. I was deleted by a "pal" and when I accepted her request, I read her page. Omg I could not believe the REQUIREMENTS to be her pal!! It was like if you don't reply to my posts, congratulate me, exercise much etc I WILL DELETE YOU. I thought she may be inspiring, I was wrong! Some of us have 40+ hours a week jobs and cannot work out 3 to 4 times a day and honestly some of us are struggling with meal to meal, day to day. I noticed this week I was deleted, and I kind of laughed. I purposely hadn't been commenting on her, she just got on my nerves. Anyway, that may have been off the subject but people are on here to get support and to be inspired. Not to be coached by people who think they are perfect and should do exactly as they do. I cleaned up my friends list and inspired myself a little!!!
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I think it has more to do with seeing the same thing posted again and again when seemingly the person hasn't bothered to use search function.
Also check where the thread is posted!
If it's in chit-chat fun and games then this is to be expected, see:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/692282-weights-bad
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:flowerforyou: (CLAPPING HANDS) AMEN!!!!!0
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:flowerforyou: (CLAPPING HANDS) AMEN!!!!!
CLAPPING FOR OP!!0 -
This seems like such an attention getting post. I find it completely unnecessary.0
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They really do, you'd be surprised.when someone posts a picture of a female body build and says "i don't want to look like this, so i'm going to not do any strength training," you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone posts up "why am i not losing weight" and their diary shows a sub-1000 calorie, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone severely overweight says they can't somehow can't eat more then 1200 calories, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone asks what is the "absolute best way to build muscle/reduce back fat/get a thigh gap" you're going to get a snarky response.
but what i hate (and i try not to post in those threads) is when someone asks how to get the quickest results possible, like, 6 weeks or less. in a way they're saying that all the time and effort that i've been putting in for this last year mean nothing, that i could've done in just six week. because if i post in that thread, i'll get perma-banned because i'll fly off the handle.
THIS!! so very much THIS!!
i will admit, readily and without much remorse, that i am VERY sarcastic. it's just how i'm set. that said, if there's an honest question, from someone with 2 posts, i - and most of my sarcastic brethren - tend to give the answer first. you'll still get the sarcasm.. but the answer will be there too.
however, like Apollo says above, if you're being rediculous or trying to tout that there is a "miracle" out there - then you will get shat upon with the utmost hilarity.
I love my friends with personality...
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Well said!0
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I learn new and seemingly stupid things everyday on this journey..apparently those people were just born fitness gurus...
It is like everything else... some people were just born experts. I agree with many before me... either give advice or keep your nose out of it. Evidently, they are people who have no power or control in their lives, so feel they have to control others. Basically, the bullies of the world. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but there is no need to put people down, insult them, or be argumentative.
I don't know about you, but I am constantly learning.
"The problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell)0 -
If people could learn to use the 'search' function on the forums, there would be no need for the exasperation when someone posts the 247th 'stavation mode' thread of the day... or 'must I eat breakfast?' ... or 'Body by Vi - is it a scam?'
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Gotta state another viewpoint.......and not trying to start an argument....just want to say..........Some of these people might go about it the wrong way, but a lot of times the information is correct. There is a lot of stupidity on these forums that runs rampant.....would you prefer for them to go unchallenged and have people believe the nonsense?
I want the right information presented. Like I said before though, it could just be done more tactfully.
I am all for using tact in diplomacy in communication, but what I find is that one someone challenges a popularly held belief that is inaccurate, the individual spreading misinformation usually immediately jumps to the defensive and refuses to accept the possibility that they might be wrong. Things usually spiral out of control from there. Many of these folks that you are referring to have become a bit jaded as they are attacked for being right in almost every single thread. Many of them take a sarcastic approach from the onset because they have become accustomed to a certain attitude when trying to offer quality advice and correct information. If you are new at this and are here to learn, then you should be a little more open-minded and gracious. I promise, you will get a completely different attitude from those same individuals.0 -
when someone posts a picture of a female body build and says "i don't want to look like this, so i'm going to not do any strength training," you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone posts up "why am i not losing weight" and their diary shows a sub-1000 calorie, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone severely overweight says they can't somehow can't eat more then 1200 calories, you're going to get a snarky response.
when someone asks what is the "absolute best way to build muscle/reduce back fat/get a thigh gap" you're going to get a snarky response.
but what i hate (and i try not to post in those threads) is when someone asks how to get the quickest results possible, like, 6 weeks or less. in a way they're saying that all the time and effort that i've been putting in for this last year mean nothing, that i could've done in just six week. because if i post in that thread, i'll get perma-banned because i'll fly off the handle.
THIS!! so very much THIS!!
i will admit, readily and without much remorse, that i am VERY sarcastic. it's just how i'm set. that said, if there's an honest question, from someone with 2 posts, i - and most of my sarcastic brethren - tend to give the answer first. you'll still get the sarcasm.. but the answer will be there too.
however, like Apollo says above, if you're being rediculous or trying to tout that there is a "miracle" out there - then you will get shat upon with the utmost hilarity.
I love my friends with personality...
do penguins **** a lot?
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After my first thread I started went to shhit in literally three posts I lowered my expectations of everyone on here and am now just mildly amused by the snarkiness. I have to admit the general forums are not for the faint of heart but you can get amazing support in the groups. I now just read or post in the forums when I'm bored as shhit. Which I think is what lots of other people do which is why there is hardly any useful information. But to be fair its a lot more interesting to read peoples biitch fights and pissing contests than supportive feed back. Haha0
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Huge difference between posting for the benefit of others and posting to troll. Nobody gets sarcastic when they are genuinely trying to help others.
Egotistic types often post sarcastically when they are trying to massage their own ego or troll. Kind of funny, seeing overdeveloped ego's with so little self esteem. Funny, but common all the same. Its clearly compensating behavior.
Couldn't agree more.0 -
It's not a scam, contact me at gimmeyourmoney@sucker.com, I am a distributor!If people could learn to use the 'search' function on the forums, there would be no need for the exasperation when someone posts the 247th 'stavation mode' thread of the day... or 'must I eat breakfast?' ... or 'Body by Vi - is it a scam?'
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