101 reasons Carbs are great and should be part of your diet
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let's all just agree that we're happy that bacon isn't a carb =]0
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Still the only macronutrient that is optional...
What about alcohol?
touche...
Assuming we accept alcohol as a nutrient, which I don't think it qualifies as.0 -
What you call "trolling," I call "a celebration of much loved macronutrient." *shrugs* If anything, ranting about the thread is trolling.
If there's a "I love punk and metal" thread, I'm going to be all over that. I'm not going to pop into some Justin Bieber thread to tell them what's wrong with the music they like.
Back on the topic of why I love carbs. Pancakes. I had a beautiful dream I was about to dig into a giant plate of pancakes yesterday, and the alarm went off right as I was about to take a bite. :sad:0 -
They get a bad rap because people are used to thinking crash diet and not proper nutrition.
this!!! :happy:0 -
[/quote]Hooboy.... (eyeroll) If our bodies were designed to burn fat, why do we store it so easily?? Really, can't you go start your own thread somewhere and leave off with the low carb propaganda??
(eyeroll) Why do we store fat? Um, gee, let me think.... Perhaps so that we have stored energy to fuel our bodies when food isn't immediately available, and to protect our organs. So, today, because food is too available for some of us, we choose to OD on carbs and keep storing fat instead of using it.
The OP was trolling. Other people provided some ignorant comments about an eating plan they know little about. Yup, I generally do try to avoid these silly discussions, but sometimes I have nothing better to do than bang my head against the wall.
I think you may be confused. If anybody here is trolling, it'd be you. See definition:The "trollface", first appearing in 2008, is often used to indicate trolling in Internet culture.[1] Modern usage of the word itself dates from 1980s.
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."0 -
Also, this thread has made e desperately want a chocolate dipped donut, pancakes, and bacon.0
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Ketones = that toxic substance produced when your body is burning fat. In high concentrations, can be intoxicating.
Yes, your body can use fat and protein to produce energy...but, YOUR BRAIN needs energy faster than the rest of your body. This is why it mostly relies on a minimum amount of CARBS.
YOU NEED A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF CARBS.
KETO DIETS are just as bad as HIGH CARBOHYDRATE diets.
Its all about eating "balanced" and not cutting out any type of food group.
They are all important and all need to be taken in moderation.
Glucose = that toxic substance that your body works hard to keep it from exceeding certain levels. It just so happens it also makes good "rocket fuel" for the body. In high concentrations, it's intoxicating, and deadly (certainly over the short term if the body is unsuccessful at controlling the levels, possibly over the long term, as well).
The human body really only needs 15-50g of carbs per day for normal activities (ie - not marathons) to spar protein loss (and a note - the "protein loss" can come from dietary protein, so you could, in theory increase your protein intake to cover what's needed for gluoconeogenesis. If you allow gluoconeogenesis, then you don't need to eat any carbs (but good luck doing that; if you eat fruits and veggies at all, then you get at least some).
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/how-many-carbohydrates-do-you-need.html
Also, there's a difference between ketosis (which isn't harmful) and ketoacidosis (which is harmful).
That said, carbs from fruits and veggies are yummy. I love me some in-season kiwi, strawberries, and clementines.
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One word - Serotonin! God knows how much I love my beauty sleep!
I think you mean melatonin. That's the stuff that helps you sleep. Serotonin is the stuff that makes you happy. 0 -
What do you guys consider low, medium and high carb levels?
I have been eating around 100g per day and want to bump it up -- what is the line between moderate and high carb intake?0 -
What do you guys consider low, medium and high carb levels?
I have been eating around 100g per day and want to bump it up -- what is the line between moderate and high carb intake?
According to the site I linked earlier, "low" is considered .5g per pound of bodyweight, "medium" is about 1g per pound, and "high" is 2-3g/lb.0 -
Ten reasons to give it a rest harping on people who choose to eat low carb:
1. I get adequate carbs from my veggies.
2. I eat more whole, natural foods than most of the people who do not eat low carb.
3. I am healthy (including BMs) when I don't eat grain and sugar.
4. I lose weight when I don't eat grain and sugar.
5. I have no food addictions/binging when I don't eat grain and sugar.
6. I'm not hungry (unless I really am) when I don't eat grain and sugar.
7. I don't need to eat bulky meals to feel full.
9. I don't eat artificial sweeteners.
10. It's my business and it works for me.
Well done! :drinker:
After my 8 mi run tonight, I'm dining on low carb pancakes and chocolate covered strawberries!0 -
Hooboy.... (eyeroll) If our bodies were designed to burn fat, why do we store it so easily?? Really, can't you go start your own thread somewhere and leave off with the low carb propaganda??
If our bodies weren't designed to burn fat, then why do we store it so easily in times of plenty? Or, if our bodies were designed to run almost exclusively on carbs, why can we only store about 7g/lb of lean body mass, as opposed to being able to store a virtually unlimited amount of fat, and all but the most strict and dedicated athletes have no less than about 10 pounds of fat?
We store fat to use as a fuel source when no external one (ie - food) is available. If we didn't, we wouldn't have been able to survive in times of famine.0 -
I eat bacon and crackers and dark chocolate. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhh0
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Fruits are loaded with carbs so eat your fruits
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Sounds legit. Grains ARE evil and I am smart so... no sources necessary.Still the only macronutrient that is optional...
Disagree. The brain REQUIRES 20g of Carbs to function. Whether you get that from fruits, veggies, or (bad for you) grains it doesn't matter....
People who adopt the 40% or higher protein diets are doing great at muscle building; but if your brain goes hungry, you lose IQ points.
Source please?
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[/quote]Hooboy.... (eyeroll) If our bodies were designed to burn fat, why do we store it so easily?? Really, can't you go start your own thread somewhere and leave off with the low carb propaganda??
"(eyeroll) Why do we store fat? Um, gee, let me think.... Perhaps so that we have stored energy to fuel our bodies when food isn't immediately available, and to protect our organs. So, today, because food is too available for some of us, we choose to OD on carbs and keep storing fat instead of using it.
The OP was trolling. Other people provided some ignorant comments about an eating plan they know little about. Yup, I generally do try to avoid these silly discussions, but sometimes I have nothing better to do than bang my head against the wall."
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So now you are the judge and jury on trolling AND the right diet for everyone?? Do us all a favor and take your anti-carb agenda to your own thread. Your only banging your head against the wall when you are trying to get everyone to conform to your way of thinking. Why don't you do what you want and let others do what they want. Control issues much??0 -
Ten reasons to give it a rest harping on people who choose to eat low carb:
1. I get adequate carbs from my veggies.
2. I eat more whole, natural foods than most of the people who do not eat low carb.
3. I am healthy (including BMs) when I don't eat grain and sugar.
4. I lose weight when I don't eat grain and sugar.
5. I have no food addictions/binging when I don't eat grain and sugar.
6. I'm not hungry (unless I really am) when I don't eat grain and sugar.
7. I don't need to eat bulky meals to feel full.
9. I don't eat artificial sweeteners.
10. It's my business and it works for me.
In response, with my 150 - 200g of carbs a day.
1. I get adequate carbs from my veggies also. I also eat a lot of fruit and get loads of micronutrients from both
2. How on earth do you know what the composition of my diet is?
3. I am healthy, period.
4. I lose weight when I don't eat more than I burn
5. I have no food addictions/binging
6. I'm not hungry (unless I really am) - LOLz.
7. I don't need to eat bulky meals to feel full either
9. I don't eat artificial sweeteners either (much!) - but that is irrelevent as these are not carbs
10. It works for me.0 -
What you call "trolling," I call "a celebration of much loved macronutrient." *shrugs* If anything, ranting about the thread is trolling.
If there's a "I love punk and metal" thread, I'm going to be all over that. I'm not going to pop into some Justin Bieber thread to tell them what's wrong with the music they like.
Back on the topic of why I love carbs. Pancakes. I had a beautiful dream I was about to dig into a giant plate of pancakes yesterday, and the alarm went off right as I was about to take a bite. :sad:
Exactly! Thank you Lorrina!0 -
Man oh man. THIS is why I avoid F&N. It might as well be religion we're talking about here. All the jihads between the low carbers, the paleos, moderationers, the vegans, the IFers, the no dairyists and such makes this entire forum play out like a never ending loop of scenes from The Warriors. I mean, this was started out as a *joke* thread, and still the beheadings begin.
Weird to me because after all the pseudoscience plays out, all of the various methods lead down the same road. Calorie restriction. All the factions give you their claptrap about why cutting out this is better than cutting out that, but it all ends up as less total calories during a 7 day period. But don't let that stop you all from picking up your virtual machetes and hacking away at each other.
Can YOOOOOOOU DIG IT
http://youtu.be/V-OYKd8SVrI 0 -
Ten reasons to give it a rest harping on people who choose to eat low carb:
1. I get adequate carbs from my veggies.
2. I eat more whole, natural foods than most of the people who do not eat low carb.
3. I am healthy (including BMs) when I don't eat grain and sugar.
4. I lose weight when I don't eat grain and sugar.
5. I have no food addictions/binging when I don't eat grain and sugar.
6. I'm not hungry (unless I really am) when I don't eat grain and sugar.
7. I don't need to eat bulky meals to feel full.
9. I don't eat artificial sweeteners.
10. It's my business and it works for me.
Well done! :drinker:
After my 8 mi run tonight, I'm dining on low carb pancakes and chocolate covered strawberries!
What the hell is a low carb pancake? That just sounds awful. Low carb and pancake shouldn't even be able to go together. Ever!0 -
for someone who is sedentary or just does low intensity cardio, sure carbs aren't really necessary... but anyone who wants to maximize performance in the gym, build muscle, trains intensely and wants to maintain muscle while dieting, etc. NEEDS to consume some amount of carbs (preferably post-workout) to replenish muscle glycogen stores and optimize recovery. not to mention that ammonia is a byproduct of gluconeogenesis and thats toxic ****. i think short periods of low carb are fine (carb cycling), but if kept for too long it will do more harm than good0
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Hooboy.... (eyeroll) If our bodies were designed to burn fat, why do we store it so easily?? Really, can't you go start your own thread somewhere and leave off with the low carb propaganda??
If our bodies weren't designed to burn fat, then why do we store it so easily in times of plenty? Or, if our bodies were designed to run almost exclusively on carbs, why can we only store about 7g/lb of lean body mass, as opposed to being able to store a virtually unlimited amount of fat, and all but the most strict and dedicated athletes have no less than about 10 pounds of fat?
We store fat to use as a fuel source when no external one (ie - food) is available. If we didn't, we wouldn't have been able to survive in times of famine.
And my point would be, based on physiology, our bodies are desiged to burn fat, carbs and protein. I never said our bodies were designed to run almost exclusively on carbs so don't put words in my mouth. Our bodies are quite obviously not designed to burn and one macronutrient exclusively. Or even primarily. Different macros for different functions. All in balance. It's only those with a 'one size fits all" mentality that are pushing the "we were designed to burn fat" and other similar myths.
Again, if that's what you want to do and it works for you great for you. Your way is not the only way. It is only one of many. Why is it that low carb people are the only ones that push a "one way" agenda and yet others who may follow a different method are constantly saying " that's fine if it works for you" but I'm doing just fine with a different way, and BTW, the research indicates that my works just as well as yours long term and maybe my goals are different than yours? I, myself have made that statement at least 4 times in this thread, a thread about: WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT CARBS, I remind you.
This isn't some thread about low carb or not. What is the issue with low carb people that they have to push thier agenda like the one true religion at evey opportunity??0 -
Ten reasons to give it a rest harping on people who choose to eat low carb:
1. I get adequate carbs from my veggies.
2. I eat more whole, natural foods than most of the people who do not eat low carb.
3. I am healthy (including BMs) when I don't eat grain and sugar.
4. I lose weight when I don't eat grain and sugar.
5. I have no food addictions/binging when I don't eat grain and sugar.
6. I'm not hungry (unless I really am) when I don't eat grain and sugar.
7. I don't need to eat bulky meals to feel full.
9. I don't eat artificial sweeteners.
10. It's my business and it works for me.
Well done! :drinker:
After my 8 mi run tonight, I'm dining on low carb pancakes and chocolate covered strawberries!
What the hell is a low carb pancake? That just sounds awful. Low carb and pancake shouldn't even be able to go together. Ever!
1. egg whites and whey protein in a blender
2. pour in a pan and cook like pancakes
3. spread peanut butter on top... you're welcome0 -
This thread went to an ugly place while I was off using carbs, so I'll reset:
1) Carbs are a good source of energy
2) Carbs are delicious.
If you don't like points 1 or 2, I would encourage you to press the "New Topic" button and start a thread that suits your preferences better.0 -
^^^^^^^^^^^^^TROLL MOVE^^^^^^^^^^^^
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carbs from vegetables, fruit, nuts, and dairy are very important. (well maybe not dairy but i love my cream and cheese.. and sour cream.. and yogurt.. mmm)
carbs from sugar, rice, and grainy things, not so much. way too easy to overeat.
yesterday my sister mindlessly munched on an entire bag of cheetos and didn't even notice til my son went to have some. there was like an ounce left! that's ~1500 calories she ate without even thinking about it. i used to do that. kinda gross now.
i just binge on celery and feel much better about it :P0 -
Blueberries and strawberries. After almost a week without any fresh produce I plan on eating a bowlful tonight even though I'm still stuffed from dinner. Since I started eating low carb I appreciate each and every delicious carb I'm able to eat. I carbs. 0
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This thread went to an ugly place while I was off using carbs, so I'll reset:
1) Carbs are a good source of energy
2) Carbs are delicious.
If you don't like points 1 or 2, I would encourage you to press the "New Topic" button and start a thread that suits your preferences better.
And I likes 'em. Mostly nice healthy complex ones with fruits and veggies mainly to the tune of 150 to 200 grams a day. Great source of potassium in some bananas or spinach. A little pizza or pasta once in a while. I am an italian boy after all. And I'm healthy, losing fat, developing muscle and I feel great! I must be a genetic mutant!!0 -
This thread went to an ugly place while I was off using carbs, so I'll reset:
1) Carbs are a good source of energy
2) Carbs are delicious.
If you don't like points 1 or 2, I would encourage you to press the "New Topic" button and start a thread that suits your preferences better.
I would like to add another point, point 3.
3) If eating carbs from natural sources like starches (potato, squash, corn), they do not cause diseases that affect humans. They only have harmful chemicals because "we" spray it with chemicals. Grow starches in your backyard, away from the poisons and they are "clean" sources of energy. They don't contain saturated fat, only contains essential fats and adequate protein.0 -
I do want to make a distinction between low carb and folks like me that eat nothing but carbs and low fat. The difference, to me, is that I cannot afford to spend money on meat. Starches like potatoes, and corn; grains like hulled barley and rice are very inexpensive.
So, if you can afford to eat meat and fat, great. I choose to save some money.0
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