As if There Weren't Enough Reasons to go Vegan
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Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.0 -
THANK you.
That sweet cuddly cat you're kissing in your profile pic? It would eat the *kitten* out of a mouse or a bird and not even think twice about it.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"0 -
I haven't come across a single good reason for going vegan.
Not even animal welfare, the environment or health benefits?
Those are the best reasons to becoming a vegan.
I'm a new vegan for 3 days now, and I feel healthier than ever.
Best decision for the life of the animals and for mine. :flowerforyou:0 -
THANK you.
That sweet cuddly cat you're kissing in your profile pic? It would eat the *kitten* out of a mouse or a bird and not even think twice about it.
Um, it's a cat. What does that have to do with humans?0 -
Me too! Wish my husband would stop grilling and panfrying his meat or just give it up altogether0
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Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
lol someone draw this poor girl a diagram and help her understand.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
HAHAHAHAHA
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"0 -
You don't agree that fruits and vegetables are good for you? Wow. Good luck to you.Now you are making a different argument. Although, I still don't agree. First you said no meat. Now you're saying increase fruits and veggies.
You believe what you want. And tell people it works great for you. Just don't expect everyone to jump on your wagon and cheer.
Thanks, but I don't really need. I'm doing very well. Happy, healthy, my doctor says I'm the picture of health. Huh, without following stupid rules.
And once again, you're changing your argument.
1st--no meat
2nd--increase fruits and veggies
3rd--fruits and veggies are good for you.
Sure, they're good for you--although some will argue that fruits are not good for. But, not everyone will feel better when they eat them.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
It was actually a perfectly fitting answer. Women's boobs produce milk. Milk is an animal product which is not used by most vegans. Therefore, if eating animals products is not necessary, why do humans produce it?0 -
Unfortunately for us--and the mice--they feed them huge quantites to speed up the results. Not very scientific. I can see the argument against meat because of cruelty, but not anything that's done in a lab. They can skew the results in any way they choose just to prove their 'theories.'0
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We are not herbivores at all. We are Omnivores.You do realize that mice are primarily herbivores? The way their bodies react to meat is very different from how we would react to it.
Why would our bodies react differently? There is a reason mice are used for so much testing. Humans are born herbivores my friend. We just simply choose to ignore what our bodies are designed for in favor of what satisfies our pleasure center. Check out this link:
http://www.waoy.org/26.html
We have teeth that are made for eating "grass" (as it were, I know we don't actually eat it anymore) and also the teeth that are made for chewing meat. I'm not saying therefore we HAVE to eat meat or only vegetation but we are not herbivores.
Each to their own, if a person wants to be a vegan or a paleo etc then that is their decision. I don't want to adopt (please pardon the following phraseology) an extreme diet of any kind. If a person can do well on a vegetarian or vegan diet and their health is good then that is up to them.
I wasn't particularly suited to a veggie diet (was one for 18 months when I was a teenager), my mother was very careful to ensure that I got plenty of protein from other sources other than meat and I did have a very good diet but it didn't suit me and I was quite often unwell. It doesn't mean that a vegetarian diet makes everyone ill, it just didn't suit me.
I personally think that as long as you eat the required amount of food groups for a healthy diet then each to their own!0 -
I've been vegan for over 7 years. I've never looked back. Best decision I've ever made, after going vegetarian.
Me too! ignore the others on this site...0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.
Vegans DO breast feed. That's why your idiotic statement makes no sense.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.
Vegans DO breast feed. That's why your idiotic statement makes no sense.
still not understanding lol0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.
Vegans DO breast feed. That's why your idiotic statement makes no sense.
You are arguing in a circle now. Vegans--no animal products including milk. Except for babies???
Makes no sense. So, babies are not "born herbivores"?0 -
I've been vegan for over 7 years. I've never looked back. Best decision I've ever made, after going vegetarian.
Me too! ignore the others on this site...
Wow, rude.
No one ever said it was a bad decision. All we said is that it isn't the ONLY decision.
If you like being vegan and you feel good, then do it! But don't tell someone that eating meat is bad for them. That's just not true. And certainly don't argue we are herbivores. There is a distinct difference between human teeth and the human digestive system and herbivore teeth and digestive system.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.
Vegans DO breast feed. That's why your idiotic statement makes no sense.
You are arguing in a circle now. Vegans--no animal products including milk. Except for babies???
Makes no sense. So, babies are not "born herbivores"?
*Sigh* Breast milk comes from a consenting HUMAN.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.
Vegans DO breast feed. That's why your idiotic statement makes no sense.
You are arguing in a circle now. Vegans--no animal products including milk. Except for babies???
Makes no sense. So, babies are not "born herbivores"?
*Sigh* Breast milk comes from a consenting HUMAN.
Oh, so not all meat products are bad. If you find a dead animal, then it's okay to eat it, because nature made it dead, not humans?0 -
I haven't come across a single good reason for going vegan.
Not even animal welfare, the environment or health benefits?
how is eating cheese from farm raise cattle abusive to cattle or the environment? i understand avoiding consuming an animal product that was produced by inhumane methods, but that doesn't require one to go vegan.
and i actually believe that it is not in health's best interest to go vegan.
Lets start with cheese. To produce milk (used in cheese) cattle are required to be pregnant every year. The calves are separated from the mother within a few days usually. The male calves are then killed and sold as veal, or raised to produce meat. Dairy cows often suffer from a variety of health problems due to being pregnant so often. Not all cows are free range. Many are kept indoors and fed artificial chemicals. For example, in Kentucky cows are genuinely being feed candy because corn and hay are too expensive.
What makes you think it isn't healthy?
do you understand that cows get pregnant as soon as they can again naturally too?0 -
We are not herbivores at all. We are Omnivores.You do realize that mice are primarily herbivores? The way their bodies react to meat is very different from how we would react to it.
Why would our bodies react differently? There is a reason mice are used for so much testing. Humans are born herbivores my friend. We just simply choose to ignore what our bodies are designed for in favor of what satisfies our pleasure center. Check out this link:
http://www.waoy.org/26.html
We have teeth that are made for eating "grass" (as it were, I know we don't actually eat it anymore) and also the teeth that are made for chewing meat. I'm not saying therefore we HAVE to eat meat or only vegetation but we are not herbivores.
Each to their own, if a person wants to be a vegan or a paleo etc then that is their decision. I don't want to adopt (please pardon the following phraseology) an extreme diet of any kind. If a person can do well on a vegetarian or vegan diet and their health is good then that is up to them.
I wasn't particularly suited to a veggie diet (was one for 18 months when I was a teenager), my mother was very careful to ensure that I got plenty of protein from other sources other than meat and I did have a very good diet but it didn't suit me and I was quite often unwell. It doesn't mean that a vegetarian diet makes everyone ill, it just didn't suit me.
I personally think that as long as you eat the required amount of food groups for a healthy diet then each to their own!
Did you actually go to the link and look at the the list of physiological differences between carnivores and herbivores? As to being an omnivore, it does address that as well, though admittedly very minimally. But, FYI, pigs are true physiological omnivores. At any rate, you seem to be implying that I am choosing a side. I'm actually just trying to share some information here. I had a sausage, egg, cheese breakfast burrito this morning and a huge chicken fried steak for lunch . . . . oink, oink.0 -
Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.
Vegans DO breast feed. That's why your idiotic statement makes no sense.
You are arguing in a circle now. Vegans--no animal products including milk. Except for babies???
Makes no sense. So, babies are not "born herbivores"?
*Sigh* Breast milk comes from a consenting HUMAN.
Oh, so not all meat products are bad. If you find a dead animal, then it's okay to eat it, because nature made it dead, not humans?
No, that would be disrespectful. That's like me asking you if you'd eat a dead human.0 -
I've been vegan for over 7 years. I've never looked back. Best decision I've ever made, after going vegetarian.
Me too! ignore the others on this site...
^^ Ignorance is bliss. :flowerforyou:0 -
FTMFWAnimal testing to prove a vegan diet?
lol
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!
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Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.
Vegans DO breast feed. That's why your idiotic statement makes no sense.
You are arguing in a circle now. Vegans--no animal products including milk. Except for babies???
Makes no sense. So, babies are not "born herbivores"?
*Sigh* Breast milk comes from a consenting HUMAN.
Oh, so not all meat products are bad. If you find a dead animal, then it's okay to eat it, because nature made it dead, not humans?
No, that would be disrespectful. That's like me asking you if you'd eat a dead human.
If it the human was not rancid or disease infested and there was no other way for me to sustain myself, sure... why not? That person is dead already. So I should join them too just because they expired?0 -
Vegan: old Native American word for "lousy hunter"
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Optimal for life. Longevity, cognitive ability, athletic ability, etc. Just about every aspect of life improves when you make the switch to whole foods, plant based diet.still think the OPTIMAL human diet includes very little, if any, animal products.
optimal for what though?
then what are my boobs for again?
ROFL...THAT was an AWESOME answer...I don't care what side you're on...gotta give props there.
It was a stupid answer seemingly unrelated to anything. She might as well have posted "I like the colour pink!"
if you can't connect the dots on that one, then i think you just showed everyone how much credit we should give your posts.
Vegans DO breast feed. That's why your idiotic statement makes no sense.
You are arguing in a circle now. Vegans--no animal products including milk. Except for babies???
Makes no sense. So, babies are not "born herbivores"?
*Sigh* Breast milk comes from a consenting HUMAN.
Oh, so not all meat products are bad. If you find a dead animal, then it's okay to eat it, because nature made it dead, not humans?
No, that would be disrespectful. That's like me asking you if you'd eat a dead human.
If it the human was not rancid or disease infested and there was no other way for me to sustain myself, sure... why not? That person is dead already. So I should join them too just because they expired?
The question I was responding to asked if it was ok to eat any animal that died of natural causes. Your catastrophe situation is unrelated.0 -
Oooh someone posted a vegan thread, let's all jump on the "let's hate the veg lifestyle" bandwagon. Hey, if you have no intention of not giving up meat then don't give up meat but why do people ALWAYS have to bag on vegan/vegetarian lifestyles. If it's not for you, then move on to the next discussion. If I see threads about what meats to eat or asking for chicken recipes, I skip them b/c it doesn't relate. Why do people feel so compelled to bag on other people's choices esp if they are making the choice for health reasons whether you agree or not.
As a vegetarian, I don't care what you eat and I' not going to try to sway you to the plant based diet either. Make your own choices. Let me tell you though, you're very unlikely to get a vegetarian to change back to consuming meat again. I will never eat meat again b/c I find it repulsive and I find the industrial farming practices to be horrific and inhumane. You're not going to convince me to eat an animal's body. How about you see the word "vegan or vegetarian" and you say "oh that doesn't relate to me" and skip all the "vegetarians are stupid, man was made to eat meat" chest pounding speeches.0 -
As if There Weren't Enough Reasons to go Vegan.
There are no good reasons to become one of them.
There is nothing better than fresh flesh. While I do love home grown pig and beef. There are few things better than nature grown steaks that I hunt and harvest.
With any luck there will even be some wolf backstraps on the grill this fall.
Man, just thinking about fall coming is getting me anxious to go look in the freezer to see what I have left from 2011.0
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