Concealing & carrying pistols while running/working out
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why I'm happy to be Canadian.0
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Maybe try some mace on your keychain?0
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Maybe not in Cambridge, but it happen last year in St. Catharines. If I knew I was running/cycling in a questionable area, I would do it. Unfortunately in Canada, you don't even have the option.I live in Canada. That stuff doesn't happen here. I'd be more worried about being run down by someone talking on their cell phone.0 -
Well of course bad things happen to people in Europe and Canada. Bad things happen everywhere, but I have never, ever heard of anyone carrying a weapon whilst they were jogging - that's insane. The cops over here don't even carry guns so why should I if I'm out jogging?Yeah, nothing bad ever happens to people in Europe and Canada. Nothing. Ever.
Well the cops here are carrying guns because of the war that's going on. We will have a lot less violence in America once the government gives peace a chance and stops declaring war on her own people.0 -
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wow. I don't have or carry weapons period. I don't even think about it. If I were in a rough neighbourhood I'd probably just go somewhere else to run.0
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You're living under a rock (like every other liberal in this country) if you don't think it happens in Canada. Do some research.Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why I'm happy to be Canadian.0 -
I didn't intend for this to be a political discussion. Was really seeking advice. Thanks for the suggestions all.
Everything turns into a political discussion on these boards. Hope you got your answer.0 -
Personally I would rather move if I were you, but I know that is not always possible.
I carry, always when I'm out and about when I'm alone and where I can legally do so (following ALL LAWS).
I found a neoprene holster that Velcro's to my waist quite securely and wear a long baggy shirt, and I always have a simple cell phone with me. I found the holster years ago so I can't remember where I got it online. The main problem is with sweat and making the metal rust so I have to keep a nice coating of gun oil on it and wipe it down good after my run. I also have learned to wrap it in a hand towel to both keep the gun dry from my sweat but to protect the grip from being worn down from the Velcro.0 -
I didn't intend for this to be a political discussion. Was really seeking advice. Thanks for the suggestions all.
Yes, unfortunately, people can't ignore these types of threads. It *is* the Internetz :laugh: :flowerforyou:0 -
Dear God, running with knives and guns?!?!? What?!?
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This! I also live in Minnesota. I am not ignorant that crime exists, and I'm not going to say this person isn't legally entitled to carry a weapon, but unless I'm running at 1:00am underneath highway bridges in South Minneapolis, I fail to see carrying a weapon as necessary.0 -
Oops, I plaxidentally shot myself while on a run.0
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Maybe try some mace on your keychain?
Mace actually scares the crap out of me. :laugh:0 -
Hi Reztib,
This is what my husband was looking at the other day: http://www.pistolwear.com/ProductDetail.jsp?LISTID=ia1321496070781. Not sure if he ordered it, but it would be nicer for him to use than a fanny pack when he's on a bicycle.0 -
Not judging. Just it's illegal in the UK to carry a weapon. We may speak ( sort of) the same language but it's posts like this that make me realise how different our lives can be.
It's just the idea that even "normal" people are literally running around with guns and knives quite happily, makes me wonder how the crazies are.
I rarely even see an armed policeman here, unless for a SUPER high security risk. I live in Central London.
It's just unfathomable.
Above anything else, I see so many people who are terrible drivers despite the fact they drive almost daily and then think they're better than 90% of other drivers. I dread to think how these people would react to being allowed to carry weapons that they wouldn't use as regularly. How often would it be misused? misfired? badly maintained? Badly aimed?
No wonder all the horror films have to upgrade to loonies with chainsaws when knives & guns are every day
You're right. The London Riots last year where way over stated and were just a bunch of angry protesters holding signs in the streets and giving up on afternoon tea in protest. Right?
Looks like London is a peaceful happy place made up of Rainbows and Unicorns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots_in_London
Imagine the London riots plus guns - you think it would have been BETTER?
The idea of normal people going running with guns strapped to them is absolutely mind-boggling and terrifying to me, and reminds me that for all our similarities, the UK and America are very different places.
If I was running in a rough area I might take a rape alarm I guess.
Actually, it might have been a lot better of people thought they might get shot for acting stupid.
Here's the thing, the bad guys here have guns, so it's only smart if the good guys here have guns as well to protect themselves and others.
The idea that you can't own a gun or that your cops don't carry guns blows my mind, so I guess we're even.
As as far as " normal people going running with guns strapped to them is absolutely mind-boggling and terrifying " to be honest, you wouldn't even know 99.9% of the time unless the person carrying told you. That's why we conceal carry. If you see my gun, it's going to be a bad day for someone.0 -
I am not much of a runner but if I had to carry my gun to run I better be fast to get away but I would open carry...armed people are less likely to be attacked if they can see your armed. Criminals like victims not a fight. Make sure you also challenge them if confronted what I mean is dont just panic pull out the gun and shoot then you end up with possible criminal charges, sad but true. But before you shoot, get loud and give commands "GET ON THE FU**ING GROUND, DONT MOVE OR ILL PUT A HOLE IN YOU!" most of them will not move and possibly **** their pants.0
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Carrying a weapon or using one are both serious topics. Most people who carry anything will either injure themselves or have their weapon turned on them. There are few people who are actually trained to use them. Also, just because you have a weapon, doesn't mean you will have time to access it or use it.
I AM the victim of a brutal vicious attack. I had a lot of the same views as most people who have commented on here already. I assure you- YOUR VIEWS WILL CHANGE WHEN/IF THEY DAY COMES AND YOU ARE ATTACKED (and live to learn from it).
My advice- if you are going to carry any weapon 1)Learn how to use it (correctly) 2) Carry as if you are ready to use it
The Most Important Advice I have or will ever give is this: BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS AT ALL TIMES. GO WITH YOUR GUT FEELING ALWAYS (no matter how dumb it may seem or look). NEVER PUT YOURSELF IN A SITUATION THAT YOU KNOW CAN/WILL/COULD/WOULD/SHOULD GO WRONG.
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PS Thanks for posting the question. I was curious about what other people do for safety and now I have some ideas!0
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I run with a kubaton that can easily take down a person when it is shoved right into their sternum, cracking it, eyes, face, stomach, any pressure points. I also have my conceal carry license, but since I have no conceal carry pistol, I want one, I don't carry. I do however carry mace, easily accessible on my bike, because of dogs. Where I'm from, you must have a license to carry mace.
If I were to carry concealed, I would want a tight fitting fanny pack, at the front that I could easily get into, like velcro shut or something... dunno, never even considered going on a run armed, since the concealed I"m looking at is 16 oz and seems too heavy to drag along on a run.
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Well of course bad things happen to people in Europe and Canada. Bad things happen everywhere, but I have never, ever heard of anyone carrying a weapon whilst they were jogging - that's insane. The cops over here don't even carry guns so why should I if I'm out jogging?Yeah, nothing bad ever happens to people in Europe and Canada. Nothing. Ever.
Well the cops here are carrying guns because of the war that's going on. We will have a lot less violence in America once the government gives peace a chance and stops declaring war on her own people.
Umm what? No that's not the reason cops carry guns.
The more and more I think about it, the more I wish I had a gun. I will probably take a safety class and learn about them before actually purchasing one. We have a few (hubby has a shotgun and an AR15) but I would like one that I can carry in my purse that is mine. I would like to think that I will never need to use it. But I would rather have one and not need it than need it and not have it.0 -
Yeah, nothing bad ever happens to people in Europe and Canada. Nothing. Ever.
Not one person has EVER been assaulted in Europe or Canada
When a so few people are attacked in a country of 30 million people in almost 4 million square miles, yes, I feel confident saying nothing happens here in Canada. The probability of getting hurt is so so small that there is absolutely no need for weapons of any kind.0 -
Not judging. Just it's illegal in the UK to carry a weapon. We may speak ( sort of) the same language but it's posts like this that make me realise how different our lives can be.
It's just the idea that even "normal" people are literally running around with guns and knives quite happily, makes me wonder how the crazies are.
I rarely even see an armed policeman here, unless for a SUPER high security risk. I live in Central London.
It's just unfathomable.
Above anything else, I see so many people who are terrible drivers despite the fact they drive almost daily and then think they're better than 90% of other drivers. I dread to think how these people would react to being allowed to carry weapons that they wouldn't use as regularly. How often would it be misused? misfired? badly maintained? Badly aimed?
No wonder all the horror films have to upgrade to loonies with chainsaws when knives & guns are every day
You're right. The London Riots last year where way over stated and were just a bunch of angry protesters holding signs in the streets and giving up on afternoon tea in protest. Right?
Looks like London is a peaceful happy place made up of Rainbows and Unicorns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots_in_London
Imagine the London riots plus guns - you think it would have been BETTER?
The idea of normal people going running with guns strapped to them is absolutely mind-boggling and terrifying to me, and reminds me that for all our similarities, the UK and America are very different places.
If I was running in a rough area I might take a rape alarm I guess.
Actually, it might have been a lot better of people thought they might get shot for acting stupid.
Here's the thing, the bad guys here have guns, so it's only smart if the good guys here have guns as well to protect themselves and others.
The idea that you can't own a gun or that your cops don't carry guns blows my mind, so I guess we're even.
As as far as " normal people going running with guns strapped to them is absolutely mind-boggling and terrifying " to be honest, you wouldn't even know 99.9% of the time unless the person carrying told you. That's why we conceal carry. If you see my gun, it's going to be a bad day for someone.
Like I said, very different countries
I love America and visit often, so don't think I'm criticising. Guns are just bloody scary if you haven't grown up around them.0 -
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why I'm happy to be Canadian.
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I couldn't imagine living in a society that is so full of fear. The difference between American's and the rest of the first world is that you expect the worst from people, and everyone else suspects the best.
http://gawker.com/5932846/american-becomes-laughingstock-of-canada-after-letter-to-editor-lamenting-lack-of-handgun-during-mild-confrontation]Case in point - It later came to light that those 'hooligans' were in fact working for the stampede and giving away free tickets.
The US has far and away the most gun holders, and at the same time has the highest murders with firearms in the "developed" world. This would be the opposite trend of what one would expect if guns made you safer.
Looking around at the caliber (no pun intended) of people out there, it scares me to think that in the US some of those people could be legally carrying a firearm.
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http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-crime-murders-with-firearms0 -
As an early morning cyclist, I had a gun pulled on me one winter in Baltimore. I was wearing a balaclava because it was cold, as I approached running with my bike on my back (steps, carry training) I was making a lot of noise, now this idiot fired toward me but not either directly at me or his gun went off "accidentally". This was on the edge of my university campus and we had a student recently mugged at gun point. So you can believe I was upset and when the cops got there - we both got taken in.
Once this whole thing got cleared up the university pressed charges against mr trigger-happy.
I wouldn't carry personally. Well, maybe in Caracas or Sao Paolo.
I live in Europe - I think I read somewhere that all of last year the English police fired guns at criminals less than 40 times? I think Munich it was less than 5, for the entire year?0 -
I couldn't imagine living in a society that is so full of fear. The difference between American's and the rest of the first world is that you expect the worst from people, and everyone else suspects the best.
http://gawker.com/5932846/american-becomes-laughingstock-of-canada-after-letter-to-editor-lamenting-lack-of-handgun-during-mild-confrontation]Case in point - It later came to light that those 'hooligans' were in fact working for the stampede and giving away free tickets.
The US has far and away the most gun holders, and at the same time has the highest murders with firearms in the "developed" world. This would be the opposite trend of what one would expect if guns made you safer.
Looking around at the caliber (no pun intended) of people out there, it scares me to think that in the US some of those people could be legally carrying a firearm.
And where are you getting these "facts"?0 -
Remora makes some nice holsters for concealing. No clips, they stick on their own.0
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I see some naive people here thinking bad things won’t happen to them. Well, I am sure that’s what the others thought when they were assaulted. I am from Montana, our crime rate is very low but I plan for the worst. We also have quite a big population of wildlife here, just another reason to pack. I pack a Kimber Carry .45. I prefer the 1911 style because it has a lot of safety features, if you don’t know how to handle guns well I suggest a revolver would be best for you. Very easy to handle and fire.
A well fitted shoulder holster is nice. I have used a hip holster that is used on the inside of the band it works well but is harder to get to. I have seen the thigh ones as well… never tried but they seem to look good. I have not had any pain with mine, I did have discomfort but if you get the right holster and adjust it well then it should be minimal.0 -
I'm not at all against guns, but I would think that a good pepper spray dispenser might be a better option. An accidental discharge is nonlethal, as is a case of mistaken intent. It's lighter, easier to holster, can be pulled just as fast, and aim is not really an issue when under stress.
Obviously it's a different tool, but it's something more folks can carry and use safely.0
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