Concealing & carrying pistols while running/working out
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I didn't intend for this to be a political discussion. Was really seeking advice. Thanks for the suggestions all.
I felt that your question was pretty straight forward. I don't know why people want to bring their own agendas into these things.
There's an amazing cycling trail that I love going to to ride my bike with my fiance. We don't really ride together, we just meet back up after our workouts. A lady was raped and murdered on that trail a few years back. Ever since then, we only go on Saturdays when there's tons of people there. Even then, if I get to an area when no one's around I get nervous. We've talking about getting a small weapon for me to carry while riding there as well as on my own long routes at home. It would really give me peace of mind. There have been times on my other routes where I've gotten pretty nervous because it's way out in the country with no one to witness it if someone knocked my off my bike and tossed me into their vehicle.
So I would have asked the same question.... how comfortable is it? What harness is best? Too bad people can't just simply answer the question.0 -
I don't have any answers, but I just wanted to stop in and say how completely bad-*kitten* that would be. I'd never expect a runner to be packing heat. I will have to keep this in mind next time I am out trail-jacking.0
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To me a gun is no different from a fire extinguisher or a first aid kit. I don't expect my house to catch fire and don't fear it but I choose to be prepared and not rely on others for my personal safety and that of my family.
Difference is, fire extinguishers and first aid kits don't tend to kill people.
You can kill someone with a fire extinguisher. It's pretty easy to kill someone if you want to do it. No gun necessary.
Only if they're standing right in front of you, and you were strong enough and tall enough and quick enough to lift it and swing it at their head before they moved.
Guns are so different to every other weapon. In a second, in the heat of the moment, someone's life is gone forever.
And you go to jail forever.0 -
I use the Smart Carry (same as Thunderware) I do not run but carry when on a bike or walking/hiking I carry a Bersa Mini .45 with an extra clip. after about 3 minutes you literally don't feel it.
http://www.smartcarry.com/0 -
To me a gun is no different from a fire extinguisher or a first aid kit. I don't expect my house to catch fire and don't fear it but I choose to be prepared and not rely on others for my personal safety and that of my family.
Difference is, fire extinguishers and first aid kits don't tend to kill people.
You can kill someone with a fire extinguisher. It's pretty easy to kill someone if you want to do it. No gun necessary.
Only if they're standing right in front of you, and you were strong enough and tall enough and quick enough to lift it and swing it at their head before they moved.
Guns are so different to every other weapon. In a second, in the heat of the moment, someone's life is gone forever.
And you go to jail forever.
I don't think that would make the dead person feel better
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I live out in the sticks so I have a CWP and I do carry when I run because I do sometimes run alone. Even when someone runs with me, I stll carry. We have fox, coyote and wild hogs in our area. I have a small gun called a bodyguard with the red sight laser. I have a Nike small fanny pack that it fits into and I situate it along my right hip and low onto my hip so that it sits against my upper leg/pelvis and doesn't jostle or bounce. It doesn't cause me any pain or discomfort. I have only stopped and pulled it out once when I happened upon 2 red fox on my run and they did not run away at the sight of me. I was worried they were rabid, but once I got closer (within 15 ft) they did finally decide to run off.0
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The PT-One (pistolwear.com) is very comfortable with a Kel-Tec .380 while jogging and I would assume the PT-2 (which they suggest is better for women) would be comfortable as well. It is designed for exercise.0
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It scares me that anyone can run around with a weapon in this country.
Scared the emperor of japan too, and it was one of the reasons he didn't consider an invasion of the west coast.0 -
To me a gun is no different from a fire extinguisher or a first aid kit. I don't expect my house to catch fire and don't fear it but I choose to be prepared and not rely on others for my personal safety and that of my family.
Difference is, fire extinguishers and first aid kits don't tend to kill people.
You can kill someone with a fire extinguisher. It's pretty easy to kill someone if you want to do it. No gun necessary.
Only if they're standing right in front of you, and you were strong enough and tall enough and quick enough to lift it and swing it at their head before they moved.
Guns are so different to every other weapon. In a second, in the heat of the moment, someone's life is gone forever.
And you go to jail forever.
I don't think that would make the dead person feel better
Missing my point. People who carry have to complete and pass a heavy training course in order to be able to carry. They understand the concequences of carrying, and that they cannot fire unless their life is in imminent danger. People who go crazy and just "fire in the heat of the moment" most likely aren't carrying legally anyway.0 -
Oh god, this topic really depresses me I live in inner city Chicago, am a woman, and sometimes have to run at night - but I will NEVER carry a gun, much less own one. This is such an incendiary topic in the U.S., I'm reluctant to weigh in here, but I must say this - I work in one of the most crime-ridden neighborhoods in this city (I'm a social worker), and where I live ain't so great either - but I totally reject gun culture. If you must carry a gun while running - plz stay clear of me - I wouldn't want to be mistaken for an assailant and lose my life!
Why not practice safe running habits (already suggested above, I'm sure), like running with a partner, etc. There is a foldable stick thang that some female runners I know carry along for their runs - can't remember the name - might not be a bad thing to consider buying.0 -
Oh god, this topic really depresses me I live in inner city Chicago, am a woman, and sometimes have to run at night - but I will NEVER carry a gun, much less own one. This is such an incendiary topic in the U.S., I'm reluctant to weigh in here, but I must say this - I work in one of the most crime-ridden neighborhoods in this city (I'm a social worker), and where I live ain't so great either - but I totally reject gun culture. If you must carry a gun while running - plz stay clear of me - I wouldn't want to be mistaken for an assailant and lose my life!
Why not practice safe running habits (already suggested above, I'm sure), like running with a partner, etc. There is a foldable stick thang that some female runners I know carry along for their runs - can't remember the name - might not be a bad thing to consider buying.
Sticks and my partner arent' going to take care of wildlife...0 -
To me a gun is no different from a fire extinguisher or a first aid kit. I don't expect my house to catch fire and don't fear it but I choose to be prepared and not rely on others for my personal safety and that of my family.
Difference is, fire extinguishers and first aid kits don't tend to kill people.
You can kill someone with a fire extinguisher. It's pretty easy to kill someone if you want to do it. No gun necessary.
Only if they're standing right in front of you, and you were strong enough and tall enough and quick enough to lift it and swing it at their head before they moved.
Guns are so different to every other weapon. In a second, in the heat of the moment, someone's life is gone forever.
And you go to jail forever.
I don't think that would make the dead person feel better
Missing my point. People who carry have to complete and pass a heavy training course in order to be able to carry. They understand the concequences of carrying, and that they cannot fire unless their life is in imminent danger. People who go crazy and just "fire in the heat of the moment" most likely aren't carrying legally anyway.
Ah, I didn't know you had to undergo training to own a gun, I thought you could just walk into a store and buy one. Still, you get the point I'm making - a lot of damage can be done very quickly, in fear, or anger, or just by mistake. That's why guns scare me.
It is interesting to talk about it though, with people who have them.0 -
Why conceal?
Carry open and avoid the problems you describe, and the problem to begin with.
Seriously.
A) Not always an option
2) Easier to carry a light small pocket pistol for running than something bigger that would "need" to be open carried
III) NOT to get into this old and tired debate, but open carry doesn't always avoid problems to begin with. Sometimes it can create a problem
This and where I live you can't open carry.0 -
To me a gun is no different from a fire extinguisher or a first aid kit. I don't expect my house to catch fire and don't fear it but I choose to be prepared and not rely on others for my personal safety and that of my family.
Difference is, fire extinguishers and first aid kits don't tend to kill people.
You can kill someone with a fire extinguisher. It's pretty easy to kill someone if you want to do it. No gun necessary.
Only if they're standing right in front of you, and you were strong enough and tall enough and quick enough to lift it and swing it at their head before they moved.
Guns are so different to every other weapon. In a second, in the heat of the moment, someone's life is gone forever.
And you go to jail forever.
I don't think that would make the dead person feel better
Missing my point. People who carry have to complete and pass a heavy training course in order to be able to carry. They understand the concequences of carrying, and that they cannot fire unless their life is in imminent danger. People who go crazy and just "fire in the heat of the moment" most likely aren't carrying legally anyway.
Ah, I didn't know you had to undergo training to own a gun, I thought you could just walk into a store and buy one. Still, you get the point I'm making - a lot of damage can be done very quickly, in fear, or anger, or just by mistake. That's why guns scare me.
It is interesting to talk about it though, with people who have them.
LMFAO if you can call that stupid six hour class along with some lame excuse of target shooting training.0 -
Oh god, this topic really depresses me I live in inner city Chicago, am a woman, and sometimes have to run at night - but I will NEVER carry a gun, much less own one. This is such an incendiary topic in the U.S., I'm reluctant to weigh in here, but I must say this - I work in one of the most crime-ridden neighborhoods in this city (I'm a social worker), and where I live ain't so great either - but I totally reject gun culture. If you must carry a gun while running - plz stay clear of me - I wouldn't want to be mistaken for an assailant and lose my life!
Why not practice safe running habits (already suggested above, I'm sure), like running with a partner, etc. There is a foldable stick thang that some female runners I know carry along for their runs - can't remember the name - might not be a bad thing to consider buying.
Sticks and my partner arent' going to take care of wildlife.
The only wildlife I'm worried about here are rats, haha. I'm more concerned with people and traffic. Are you worried about being attacked by a moose or bear or vicious mountain lion?0 -
To me a gun is no different from a fire extinguisher or a first aid kit. I don't expect my house to catch fire and don't fear it but I choose to be prepared and not rely on others for my personal safety and that of my family.
Difference is, fire extinguishers and first aid kits don't tend to kill people.
You can kill someone with a fire extinguisher. It's pretty easy to kill someone if you want to do it. No gun necessary.
Only if they're standing right in front of you, and you were strong enough and tall enough and quick enough to lift it and swing it at their head before they moved.
Guns are so different to every other weapon. In a second, in the heat of the moment, someone's life is gone forever.
And you go to jail forever.
I don't think that would make the dead person feel better
Missing my point. People who carry have to complete and pass a heavy training course in order to be able to carry. They understand the concequences of carrying, and that they cannot fire unless their life is in imminent danger. People who go crazy and just "fire in the heat of the moment" most likely aren't carrying legally anyway.
Ah, I didn't know you had to undergo training to own a gun, I thought you could just walk into a store and buy one. Still, you get the point I'm making - a lot of damage can be done very quickly, in fear, or anger, or just by mistake. That's why guns scare me.
It is interesting to talk about it though, with people who have them.
LMFAO if you can call that stupid six hour class along with some lame excuse of target shooting training.
Your instructor must have been pretty awesome then.0 -
Oh god, this topic really depresses me I live in inner city Chicago, am a woman, and sometimes have to run at night - but I will NEVER carry a gun, much less own one. This is such an incendiary topic in the U.S., I'm reluctant to weigh in here, but I must say this - I work in one of the most crime-ridden neighborhoods in this city (I'm a social worker), and where I live ain't so great either - but I totally reject gun culture. If you must carry a gun while running - plz stay clear of me - I wouldn't want to be mistaken for an assailant and lose my life!
Why not practice safe running habits (already suggested above, I'm sure), like running with a partner, etc. There is a foldable stick thang that some female runners I know carry along for their runs - can't remember the name - might not be a bad thing to consider buying.
Sticks and my partner arent' going to take care of wildlife.
The only wildlife I'm worried about here are rats, haha. I'm more concerned with people and traffic. Are you worried about being attacked by a moose or bear or vicious mountain lion?
Um, yes. Bear are possible, mostly cyote's though.0 -
Simple belly band can be pretty useful.
Thunderwear/SmartCarry as well (already mentioned).
I did enjoy all of the useless comments by people who have probably never even held a gun, however.0 -
I find this topic strange. But then, I'm European.
I also find it confusing. I have trouble enough placing my ipod in a place where it's concealed and tucked away enough not to annoy me. I have once helt a gun in my life. I'd rather not do it again, even though it was just clay pidgeon shooting. Running with something like that must be really uncomfortable...0 -
Good grief... just give some helpful advice.. not go on about your pro/con of carrying.. SHEESH!!!
This is what I am planning on getting http://www.pistolwear.com/ProductDetail.jsp?LISTID=ia13214962778190 -
To me a gun is no different from a fire extinguisher or a first aid kit. I don't expect my house to catch fire and don't fear it but I choose to be prepared and not rely on others for my personal safety and that of my family.
Difference is, fire extinguishers and first aid kits don't tend to kill people.
You can kill someone with a fire extinguisher. It's pretty easy to kill someone if you want to do it. No gun necessary.
Only if they're standing right in front of you, and you were strong enough and tall enough and quick enough to lift it and swing it at their head before they moved.
Guns are so different to every other weapon. In a second, in the heat of the moment, someone's life is gone forever.
And you go to jail forever.
I don't think that would make the dead person feel better
Missing my point. People who carry have to complete and pass a heavy training course in order to be able to carry. They understand the concequences of carrying, and that they cannot fire unless their life is in imminent danger. People who go crazy and just "fire in the heat of the moment" most likely aren't carrying legally anyway.
Ah, I didn't know you had to undergo training to own a gun, I thought you could just walk into a store and buy one. Still, you get the point I'm making - a lot of damage can be done very quickly, in fear, or anger, or just by mistake. That's why guns scare me.
It is interesting to talk about it though, with people who have them.
LMFAO if you can call that stupid six hour class along with some lame excuse of target shooting training.
Your instructor must have been pretty awesome then.
Yeah it was pretty crappy, but I have owned and carried firearms my whole life so it is not like I missed out. However when it comes to carrying when you run, I dont do it. My current go to weapon is a Sig .40 and it is a tad too large to carry while running. I have been considering getting a .38 as a secondary weapon but have not made the commitment yet.0 -
I don't know what to suggest.
I grew up in the country. Lots of bears, wolves, and cougars. I ran around with no protection and never had a problem (we were wilderness savvy kids and knew how to avoid sneaking up on these creatures and how to respond if we DID happen upon one). When I moved to town I was more worried about the humans I'd encounter then I ever was about the wildlife.
I guess it just depends on your neighborhood and your comfort level?
In the town I live in NO ONE has EVER been attacked unless they were in the drug industry. Despite this I don't feel safe running on my own after dark. I keep to the same route, close to lights and always, always, always have a weapon ready in my pocket (whether it be a knife or my keys - which can be used to harm an attacker if used correctly). Not sure I'd feel comfortable running with a gun. I'd be terrified of accidental discharges and things like that.
Whatever you decide. Be safe. Be smart. Don't shoot someone just because they seem suspicious? Okay?0 -
Do you have to conceal, or are you permitted in your area to carry openly? If so, I would go with the shoulder holsters, the one that goes on similar to a backpack.
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http://www.thunderwear.com/ is my favorite.
Never had anyone bother me, and I hope they don't because they are in for a suprise.0 -
I live in a very safe area so I rarely feel the need to carry a weapon but if I go out at night I wear what I believe they call a belly band. It holds my 9mm tight against my torso so it doesn't jostle around and make it uncomfortable to jog. At night we are more likely to meet bears, coyotes, and wolves. (Even in town) I'm not worried about coming up on another person, more worried about the animals. I conceal the weapon so I don't scare the crap out of anyone else I would meet while out jogging.0
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Another thing I think should be considered here is access to your firearm. Those belt holsters look cool and all but how fast can you gain access to your weapon? I carry strong draw and find that having to carry weak draw while not seated would suck, plus how sticky are those bands going to be on your weapon to slow your draw down. I dont know maybe I am over thinking the whole thing.0
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Yeah, nothing bad ever happens to people in Europe and Canada. Nothing. Ever.
Hahaha! Europe and Canada are BOTH completely crimeless..how did you not know this?!
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http://www.thunderwear.com/ is my favorite.
Never had anyone bother me, and I hope they don't because they are in for a suprise.
HELL NO! Why would you carry a weapon pointed down at your junk and your femoral artery. What if you have an accidental discharge?0 -
Mace is cheap and light. And you probably won't shoot your junk off. Also - if you are scared, run during the day and don't wear headphones. A little common sense goes a long way.
If all else fails, kick em in the crotch.0 -
Damn all this gun talk is HOT!0
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