Whats wrong with Subway?
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I can explain this one too!Our area hasn't always had a Subway. I remember the DAY that Subway opened up here. We were all so excited so we went right on down.
And my mother got food poisoning from her chicken sub.
*sigh*
(but not justify it)
You see, on opening day, there are serious pressures to get everything done and prepared for a huge crowd.
Especially in fast food, because if you make 'em wait, you get reprimanded. So little things like "food sanitation" and "safe cooking temperatures" goes right out the window.
Like that free Doritos Taco thing at Taco Bell next Tuesday? Don't even bother, the beef might not be done, or the lettuce and cheese will be old, things like that.
And it's not anyone's REAL fault, it's just the corporation's idea to mass profits and promotional value, which causes the already stressed out workers to scramble like chickens with no heads because no one really consults them about it first, or hires temporary staff to get through the day.
Most don't even order the extra food necessary to get it all done.0 -
Subway smells like hobos.
lol that is perfect. it really is the worst smelling of all the fast food places. its that horrible bread that is the culprit.
Hey now! I walked around reeking of bread and pickles for almost seven years.....
....no, you're right, and the smell really does stick to you like glue. It can knock over bears. :indifferent:0 -
their bread is HORRIBLE. why do they use such substandard bread? and their meats are school cafeteria quality.
there are so many decent sub/sandwich places around i dont understand why anyone would go to subway.
they do have fantastic marketing.
yup
Exactly...I don't eat there because the quality of the food is horrible. The smell eminating from the place even from the parking lot is enough to drive me away. This is just bad food. Processed, chemically preserved, mass produced, stored, and hauled to various locations to be shoveled out to the masses with the labels of "fresh" and "healthy".
Man it must be a helluva lot better living in a small town because I have never had any of those issues with the ones in my town. I dont think I have ever been able to smell a Subway before I actually went inside lol. If that were the case I would not eat there either.
are you saying that small town Subways use different ingredients? im sorry but that is just not true. its just that you are accustomed to eating bad sandwiches and are desensitized to it. if you ever get a chance grab a sub at a legit sub shop or deli and your eyes will be opened.
Not much different then what you would make at home. Same kind of meat and cheese most people buy in the grocery. Comes in the same packaging. And all the veggies are sliced daily. I worked at one in high school and the 6am person would slice the onions, cuckes, tomatoes, etc... in preparation for the day.0 -
I like Subway well enough, though I prefer Lenny's / Firehouse / Blimpies for the fresh sliced meats.
When it comes to advice on the internet I find the phrase "Take what you will, leave the rest behind" serves me well.0 -
I see more people saying they don't like it because they think it tastes like *kitten* than people that are saying the carbs are too high. Maybe my reading comprehension is off...This is the type of thing I find extremely funny. People hating on subway because of carbs and such. Weight loss is very simple. It's all about CALORIES. I haven't tracked anything besides calories the entire time I have been losing weight and not once have I hit a plateau, had any issues losing weight or anything to that nature. Eat what you want, just stay within your calorie range for the day and you'll be fine.
Totally agree with you 100% I have done the same just track calories and exercise and have no problems seeing the weight come off!!!0 -
The smell must've been...Subway smells like hobos.
lol that is perfect. it really is the worst smelling of all the fast food places. its that horrible bread that is the culprit.
Hey now! I walked around reeking of bread and pickles for almost seven years.....
....no, you're right, and the smell really does stick to you like glue. It can knock over bears. :indifferent:
UnBEARable!0 -
Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded. Yes, that includes the US government's recommendations. You don't have to be an Atkins fanatic to realize that such a high carb ratio is terrible for you. If anything, carbs and protein should probably be about even at 35/35.
That said, I used to like Subway, until I started making my own food, and suddenly realized that their's tastes like ****. Eat fresh my *kitten*...pay close attention to their 'fresh' food next time you are there. Granted, every location will be different, but every one of them that I have been to has featured some...less than fresh looking ingredients.
That's not a horrible ratio. Mine is 50/25/25 which is perfect for me. Though occasionally, I will take in a little more fat and a little bit less in carbs.
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just adding that i started looking like this picture because of my 60%carb/ 20%fat / 20% protien diet. if you know what you are doing almost no diet is "retarded" everything depends on your goals and having your diet and excercise program matching up, right now i am seriously carb loading and pushing the upper limits at 70%/15%/15% and not getting any fatter, so i guess i fall into the retard category :ohwell:0 -
In my opinion, whatever you choose to eat, someone on MFP will criticise it. You're either too low-cal or low-carb or high-carb ...
There's a lot worse things to have than Subway. Yes, there's a lot of salt in it, but it's low calorie and generally tasty.
I say the people who have so much time to moan about what others are eating, especially when it's generally not that bad, should take a good look at themselves in the mirror. We're all here to better ourselves, not put others down.0 -
I hadn't noticed comments about Subway. If it fits into your food allotment for the day, enjoy. When I am traveling, I try to go to Subway rather than the other fast food places along the way.0
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The only thing that puts me off Subway is: I used to work in an office next door to a Subway and the smell was horrific, I have no idea what it was but I can still smell it if I walk past the place (doesn't stop me going getting a Subway on the odd occasion :devil: )0
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if i'm at work and have a few minutes to grab something to eat, around here there's a
tim horton's
subway
7-11
a&w
wendy's
i'm gonna go to subway!0 -
MEH, whatever. I'm not even going to read all of the posts on here...I just came to say
I LOVE SUBWAY. And I fit it in my diet every now and then (veggie delite) and IT'S AMAZING and I don't regret it.
NOM NOM NOM.
That is all, good day.0 -
if i'm at work and have a few minutes to grab something to eat, around here there's a
tim horton's
subway
7-11
a&w
wendy's
i'm gonna go to subway!
id go to 7-11 and grab a protein bar.0 -
There's nothing inherently wrong with Subway except cheap processed meats and possible handling issues imo.
I'd much prefer a sub with fresh cut meat from Boar's head, personally.0 -
I don't understand what is really wrong with it either. I had a 6" today for lunch. And for once, I am not already hungry. I think losing weight is more about the food choices that you make. Like you said, not the extra bacon and cheese and such. I had a Tuscan Chicken Melt with cheese on Italian bread with lettuce, onions, a little oil and vinager. It was delicious and only around 460 calories. Yes carbs and sodium are a little high, but watch them in the other foods you eat and you will be perfectly fine!0
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are there subways in europe? their bread standards are way higher than ours and i wonder if they use different bread in european subway stores.
you can grab sandwiches off street vendors in Paris that are a million times better than subway.0 -
I haven't read any of the replies yet, but personally I am irritated with Subway because they advertise their healthiness, and have all these commercials showing fat people biting into hamburgers and busting their buttons/breaking their chairs/etc, and then they display a sandwich that actually has more calories in it than the hamburgers people were eating. Sure, you CAN eat a moderate calorie meal at Subway, but you actually have to be pretty careful, just as with any other fast food place. I've also seen studies that suggest that the "healthy aura" in Subway's advertising causes people to underestimate how many calories they are actually eating, which could lead to them eating more. (http://foodpsychology.cornell.edu/pdf/permission/2007/health_halos-JCR_2007.pdf)
So basically, not only are they cracking fat jokes in their advertising, which is totally not cool with me (and stupid, to mock the customer base you are trying to attract), but they are also going so overboard with their healthiness claims that it's getting to the point of absurdity. Subway is not THAT good for you. It may be a good choice if you're in the mall food court and you're careful about what you order, but plenty of people go to Subway, chow down a thousand calories, and feel like they ate healthy so they deserve a treat afterwards, and end up worse than they would have if they "splurged" on McDonalds.0 -
AGREED!!!This is the type of thing I find extremely funny. People hating on subway because of carbs and such. Weight loss is very simple. It's all about CALORIES. I haven't tracked anything besides calories the entire time I have been losing weight and not once have I hit a plateau, had any issues losing weight or anything to that nature. Eat what you want, just stay within your calorie range for the day and you'll be fine.0
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Now wishing I lived in Paris.are there subways in europe? their bread standards are way higher than ours and i wonder if they use different bread in european subway stores.
you can grab sandwiches off street vendors in Paris that are a million times better than subway.0 -
I haven't read any of the replies yet, but personally I am irritated with Subway because they advertise their healthiness, and have all these commercials showing fat people biting into hamburgers and busting their buttons/breaking their chairs/etc, and then they display a sandwich that actually has more calories in it than the hamburgers people were eating. Sure, you CAN eat a moderate calorie meal at Subway, but you actually have to be pretty careful, just as with any other fast food place. I've also seen studies that suggest that the "healthy aura" in Subway's advertising causes people to underestimate how many calories they are actually eating, which could lead to them eating more. (http://foodpsychology.cornell.edu/pdf/permission/2007/health_halos-JCR_2007.pdf)
So basically, not only are they cracking fat jokes in their advertising, which is totally not cool with me (and stupid, to mock the customer base you are trying to attract), but they are also going so overboard with their healthiness claims that it's getting to the point of absurdity. Subway is not THAT good for you. It may be a good choice if you're in the mall food court and you're careful about what you order, but plenty of people go to Subway, chow down a thousand calories, and feel like they ate healthy so they deserve a treat afterwards, and end up worse than they would have if they "splurged" on McDonalds.
High cals =/= unhealthy
and overweight and the obese are pretty crappy at estimating caloric intake regardless of "health" halos, much worse then their lean/normal weight counterparts0 -
Now wishing I lived in Paris.are there subways in europe? their bread standards are way higher than ours and i wonder if they use different bread in european subway stores.
you can grab sandwiches off street vendors in Paris that are a million times better than subway.
that was the first country i visited in europe and it was eye opening to realize we dont have to settle for the crappy bread we are given in so many situations. the sandiwches in paris were cheap and fantastic.0 -
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Currently eating a subway sandwich and eats them from time to time.
-Lost weight.
-Maintained loss.
-Still alive.
-Read the nutrition info so wasn't a complete idiot by assuming everything is healthy on the the menu and ordered something within my macros.
-No sign of cancer yet.0 -
Typical lunch before MFP: McDonalds: Southern Chicken Sandwich, reg. hamburger (one patty), large fries, chocolate chip cookie.
Diet coke.
Typical lunch now : 6-12" Steak and cheese from Subway on white, lettuce, onion, jalapeno, salt and P, sweet onion sauce, vinegar, parm and oregano. Water to drink. Sometimes I'll go for Ham with the same fixings.
My point? Just look at the difference, yes I know I take in waayyyy too much sodium because I generally eat fast food, all the time. But I feel better, look better, and think before I eat now. Oh yea 37 lbs. down too.
Do what works for you! I do think we will all die one day...0 -
Please don't be an idiot and believe this. I'm studying nutrition right now, and can tell you that eating that much protein is just a waste. Carbs provide glucose, the preferred source of energy.
I used to hear that same idiotic "carbs are your preferred energy source" quote from nutritionists all the time back when I was in medical school That means carbs are good for giving you energy for things like sports, but it has absolutely nothing to do with weight loss (or anything else really). And technically sugar, not complex carbs are the body's energy source. Yet nobody would recomend eating pure sugar all day! You mentioned that we don't need much protein if we're not exercising . . . how many carbs do we need again . . . oh yeah zero!
I can't believe the "carbs are your preferred energy source" dogma is still so prevalent amoung nutritionists. White bread (and subway's "wheat bread" is basically white bread) is not helpful for weight loss. Sure, you can make it work if you want to, but it's not health food. It's not very satiating, it's high glycemic index, it's low in nutrients, and it's basically just empty calories.0 -
Here is all I have to say: I worked at Subway for 4 years... There is nothing healthy about it. The end.0
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I would never refer to fast food, subway, as health food. When I think of health food, I think about the gardens my grandpa used to grow when I was a child. Dang, I wish I had learned to farm...0
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moderation is key. and what you put on the bread and what size determines if it's too much of a good thing. I treat my daughter to a whole wheat sub, turkey meat, lettuce, olives, pickles, no dressings... she likes to eat clean when eating sandwiches... no mayo, nuthin'. lol!!!0
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I actually think there are several tasty sandwiches available at Subway, including a plain ol' veggie sub that cuts out the salty meat people are complaining about.
HOWEVER. I cannot stand the smell of that place. I don't know if it's the flavored breads they began baking several years ago instead of just white and wheat, but it makes me want to vomit. And if I brave the smell (which I only do if there is no other option or someone in my family wants Subway), the smell stays in my clothes and hair for the rest of the day, leaving me mildly nauseated until I can shower and change.0 -
IF the nutrition calculator on their website is accurate, my sandwich at subway is 300 calories.
6 inch wheat bread
pepperjack cheese
spinach
lettuce
tomatoes
cucumbers
olives
jalapeños
and either vinegar or honey mustard depending on my mood.
NOT saying it has any health benefits but for someone like me who doesn't have much time between classes and consistently forgets to pack a lunch this is probably the lesser of fast food evils available to me lol
Also the printmaking/papermaking lab is connected to the campus subway so I smell it all day twice a week. I looooove that smell0 -
Please don't be an idiot and believe this. I'm studying nutrition right now, and can tell you that eating that much protein is just a waste. Carbs provide glucose, the preferred source of energy.
I used to hear that same idiotic "carbs are your preferred energy source" quote from nutritionists all the time back when I was in medical school That means carbs are good for giving you energy for things like sports, but it has absolutely nothing to do with weight loss (or anything else really). And technically sugar, not complex carbs are the body's energy source. Yet nobody would recomend eating pure sugar all day! You mentioned that we don't need much protein if we're not exercising . . . how many carbs do we need again . . . oh yeah zero!
I can't believe the "carbs are your preferred energy source" dogma is still so prevalent amoung nutritionists. White bread (and subway's "wheat bread" is basically white bread) is not helpful for weight loss. Sure, you can make it work if you want to, but it's not health food. It's not very satiating, it's high glycemic index, it's low in nutrients, and it's basically just empty calories.
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