Whats wrong with Subway?

snowgrrl83

I don't get it. What is wrong with a healthy sandwich from Subway?
I don't mean the footlong sandwich with extra bacon and cheese grilled with no veggies and a side of 2 coookies and a regular coke.

I don't understand why so many people hate on Subway here on MFP.

I honestly think that my 6-inch on 9grain bread sub with turkey or ham along with cheese and light mayo and fully loaded list of veggies is not bad for me. Honestly, It pretty much follows the healthy eating food guide. Sure processed meats have a bit too much sodium, but otherwise, I don't see the problem with a sub described above... yet so many on MFP are against Subway, or think its awful.

If you think so, please explain in a rational and civilized manner why you think Subway isn't a good choice for people. I'd like to know why and I'd like you to suggest something easy to prepare (and tasty) that I can pack in under 400 calories with a reasonable amount of veggies/fruit (my vitamins are important), carbs (not too much sugar and a reasonable amount of fibre), protein and fats (preferably the healthy fats).


I'm not talking low-carb diet or high-protein diet. I can't do keto or Atkins, seriously, I've tried it, its not for me, I felt so lethargic.
I'm just talking regular healthy eating. You know, food-guide style... where the daily recommended intake is 55% carbs, 30% fats and 15% protein along with plenty of vitamins and minerals.

alaskaang

Processed meats full of sodium and MSG - gives me a migraine
Bread - Can't eat it now, but even when I did Subway is just too much bread to meat & veggie ratio to me

For the same calories, I'd much rather have a huge salad with protein and full fat full flavor dressing
And for me, 15% protein is way too low. My ratios are more 30% carb, 40% protein, 30% fat

jameseylefebure

I noticed that as well!!

Sorry I don't have an answer but i did always think that a healthy sub was a good choice? I've always used it if I'm in town with friends and they choose to go for fastfood. (luckily there is a maccies and a subway *very* close to each other in town) so I wander to subway for mine while they eat maccies?

azjenny72

I don't think subway is horrible. I enjoy a sub from there from time to time. As an every day occurrence it wouldn't work for me though. That intake of carbs is way too high for me. As a diabetic and a woman with PCOS I know for my own health and ability to lose weight I need to lower my carb intake or at least my bread/starch intake and try to get most of my carbs from fruits and veggies.

If someone chooses to have a sub every day from their "healthy" options and it works for them I see nothing wrong with it.

Troll

The flatbreads are om nom nom.

i do provolone, spinach, bell peppers, jalapenos, cucumbers, onions, and onion sauce.

its high sodium, but seriously.

Crying_In_Color

This is the type of thing I find extremely funny. People hating on subway because of carbs and such. Weight loss is very simple. It's all about CALORIES. I haven't tracked anything besides calories the entire time I have been losing weight and not once have I hit a plateau, had any issues losing weight or anything to that nature. Eat what you want, just stay within your calorie range for the day and you'll be fine.

WendyTerry420

I love Subway. It's one of the few fast food places that I can tolerate because the ingredients are fresh. I prefer Mr. Goodcents for subs, or Planet Sub, but Subway is great! Hubby and me always split a $5 footlong.

WendyTerry420

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded. Yes, that includes the US government's recommendations. You don't have to be an Atkins fanatic to realize that such a high carb ratio is terrible for you. If anything, carbs and protein should probably be about even at 35/35.

That said, I used to like Subway, until I started making my own food, and suddenly realized that their's tastes like ****. Eat fresh my *kitten*...pay close attention to their 'fresh' food next time you are there. Granted, every location will be different, but every one of them that I have been to has featured some...less than fresh looking ingredients.

That's not a horrible ratio. Mine is 50/25/25 which is perfect for me. Though occasionally, I will take in a little more fat and a little bit less in carbs.

WendyTerry420

Processed meats full of sodium and MSG - gives me a migraine
Bread - Can't eat it now, but even when I did Subway is just too much bread to meat & veggie ratio to me

For the same calories, I'd much rather have a huge salad with protein and full fat full flavor dressing
And for me, 15% protein is way too low. My ratios are more 30% carb, 40% protein, 30% fat

I don't think it has MSG in it or else my hubby would be getting headaches. MSG gives him headaches and stomach issues.

zaph0d

because it's low-grade sub-par food that tastes terrible

RenfieldX

I've never noticed a lot of hate towards Subway. As far as fast food goes, it's not that bad. I cut out wheat and gluten about 3 months ago (due to a dietary sensitivity), but prior to that I'd occasionally have a Subway sandwich if I had to eat out. My go to meal at Subway was a 6 inch turkey on whole wheat, with double meat, lots of veggies, and no sauce or mayo. Per the Subway (Canada) website that worked out to 380 calories (29g protein, 48g carbs, 8g fat, 5g fibre, 1335 sodium).

At the time, my main concern with that meal was the high sodium (a double serving of processed deli meat being the main culprit), but that's true of a lot fast food, and isn't the end of the world for the occasional indulgence.

snowgrrl83

because it's low-grade sub-par food that tastes terrible

...and in your opinion, what is "high-grade superior-par food that tastes great"?

zaph0d

because it's low-grade sub-par food that tastes terrible

...and in your opinion, what is "high-grade superior-par food that tastes great"?

Well if we're talking sandwiches, then something from an authentic Italian or Jewish deli.

BrianSharpe

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded. Yes, that includes the US government's recommendations. You don't have to be an Atkins fanatic to realize that such a high carb ratio is terrible for you. If anything, carbs and protein should probably be about even at 35/35.

That said, I used to like Subway, until I started making my own food, and suddenly realized that their's tastes like ****. Eat fresh my *kitten*...pay close attention to their 'fresh' food next time you are there. Granted, every location will be different, but every one of them that I have been to has featured some...less than fresh looking ingredients.

What makes high carbs "terrible for you"? Got some science to back the statement up?

EHeadings

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded.

Are you serious?! It's 2012 and you are still using the R word?!?

emtjmac

There's nothing wrong with Subway. It's a great choice when you're on the run. Don't let opinionated people discourage you from it. And your macros are fine as determined by MFP. When I go to subway, I get a roast beef on 9 grain wheat, 6", all the veggies I want, no sauce, no cheese, extra jalapenos. It's like 320 calories and only 777mg of sodium. It's great.

dwh77tx

Processed meats full of sodium and MSG - gives me a migraine
Bread - Can't eat it now, but even when I did Subway is just too much bread to meat & veggie ratio to me

For the same calories, I'd much rather have a huge salad with protein and full fat full flavor dressing
And for me, 15% protein is way too low. My ratios are more 30% carb, 40% protein, 30% fat

exactly! If I ate subway for lunch I probably would be guzzling water all afternoon from the salt- gross!

tubaman58

I think it's fine, certainly helathier and better tasting than the Golden Arches.

No matter what you do, some people here feel obligated to slam it. If you can make it work for you.... go for it...!!

snowgrrl83

because it's low-grade sub-par food that tastes terrible

...and in your opinion, what is "high-grade superior-par food that tastes great"?

Well if we're talking sandwiches, then something from an authentic Italian or Jewish deli.

Sounds yummy, wish I had one around the corner

Love_flowers

I like Subway sandwiches. My favorite is the one with chicken tikka.
I think it is a much better option than so many other fast food choices one can make.

We are eating out tomorrow with family and I'm going to make my sub as healthy as possible and loaded with vegetables and salads

ekz13

this is funny.... you don't like subway ...then ..duh..don't eat it.

for some of us, it's the lesser of evils so we can go out to eat with co workers and still maintain rather than eat popeyes or something else. a 6 inch sub doesn't destroy my day..

to each his/her own.

zaph0d

because it's low-grade sub-par food that tastes terrible

...and in your opinion, what is "high-grade superior-par food that tastes great"?

Well if we're talking sandwiches, then something from an authentic Italian or Jewish deli.

Sounds yummy, wish I had one around the corner

meeee toooo!

EHeadings

People hate on different food for different reasons. I like subway and think it's a better choice for me than other fast food, so I go there. I don't eat it everyday, but once in awhile is fine. Everything is fine in moderation, right? It's not like your chowing down on doughnuts or something!!

JoniBologna

I don't like Subway because I think it tastes gross. Personally, I like my lunch meat sliced very thin. Also, I try to avoid heavily process foods, which their meats definitely are. Likewise, their food has an incredible amount of sodium. Furthermore, I try to support local, small businesses whenever possible. You wanna eat at Subway? Go for it. I will continue to choose much more delicious sandwiches...including the ones I make at home

deb3129

I do not eat out often, but when I do Subway is one of my favorite choices. I eat a plant based diet, so I do not have the meat, which does have a decent amount of sodium. However, as far as fast food choices, I still think it is one of the better ones. Is the sodium a little too high? Yes. However, if you are not eating a lot of other processed, high sodium stuff that day, it's not bad. And Subway is just like every other place, you can make a meal that is incredibly unhealthy, or you can put the right combnation of stuff together and make one that is pretty good for you!

jessicataylor2

The time when my weight loss was the best was when I was home for the summer working at one of my dad's Subways. I would eat a sub for lunch(either chicken, turkey, ham, or turkey and ham) on 9 grain wheat with some of the inside of the bread scooped out, no cheese, lots of veggies, pepper, and either a little oil for some fats or a little mustard. And then for dinner I'd make a steak, chicken, or turkey ham salad with a little oil as the dressing. Sometimes when I'd want the egg I'd make an egg white sandwich for lunch or make what I'd call an omelet with the egg white patty, sliced ham on top, with some veggies and a little cheese and I'd heat it up.

I ended up losing like 5 lbs. And keep in mind that I didn't have all that much weight to lose so it was difficult to get the scale to go down. I wish I had access to a Subway for free now and I'd be doing the same thing since my weight randomly went up 5 lbs last week. I love Subway

MIM49

I like the way you can go to their website nutritional page and " build" your own sandwich or salad. You can control nutrients (no pickles--too high in sodium, No cheese--too many added calories) print it and send it with hubbie to get exactly what I want so he doesn't screw up. Sure, homemade from scratch is always better but sometimes "fast" is just needed.

sarahisme18

That is all.

fjrandol

http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2012/06/12/food-babe-investigates-is-subway-real-food/

There's your Subway.

Do I still eat there? Yes, but I probably shouldn't if I'm trying to really be healthy. Usually I end up there when I get the feeling I've not had enough vegetables in my life. :-)

rainbowbow

I think it is more of an "I can make a better sandwhich myself" or "I can go to a real deli with better ingredients" type of thing.

The fact that subway pushed the "we're healthy look at us" thing is a little ridiculous. It's all about calories in/calories out. Some of their subs are just as bad as a big mac.

Their sanitary issues are kind of bad usually. They keep things uncovered (which can make it harder for food to stay to temp >40 degrees). They use the knife to put the laid out sandwhich together (which usually has been all over someone else's food). They touch trash and pick things up when wearing gloves and then try to make your sandwhich as if somehow they aren't dirty anymore.

Their ingrediants aren't all that fresh/awesome as most of it is prepackaged like any other fast food restaurant.

The bread is generic and usually pretty crappy and it comes frozen and then just bake it.

Their meats and cheeses are not that high of a quality and are usually packed with sodium.

They charge the CRAP out of you for a sanwhich that you could make at home for 1/2 the price if said person wasn't too lazy.

Hmm... what else..... >_> I guess that's all i can think of. I will eat a 6 inch veggie sub when im pressed for time/cant make a sandwhich/go to a real deli, but it always leaves something to be desired.

Molly_Maguire

I wouldn't say it's necessarily BAD for you, if you are consistently eating it the way you described...I just think it tastes terrible. All the bread has that same cheapy-processed smell and taste, and the meat is always overly-salted and rubbery. Not to mention if you're eating there often, the cost will swamp you.

Try making the exact same sandwich at home with REAL fresh ingredients. Not only will you get about 4 homemade sandwiches for the price of one Subway, it will taste so much better, and keep you full longer.