Is it okay her boyfriend pushed her in anger?

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  • BritneysStuntDouble
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  • jlapey
    jlapey Posts: 1,850 Member
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    NO, NO, NO, NO, NO Get out before it's to late.
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
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    If she was coming at him aggressively then he had the right to push her.

    ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDING ME?!?!?

    *smh* NO NO NO NO.. absolutly not in any way shape or form. This is NOT acceptable in any way..

    So what is a man to do when a woman is coming at him aggressively?

    I agree with you. If she's coming *aggressively*, he should at least be able to defend himself. Women can be the abusive partner, too.

    The pushing her head while she's sitting...not so much. That sounds abusive.
  • Dub_D
    Dub_D Posts: 1,760 Member
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    If she was coming at him aggressively then he had the right to push her.

    No. If she was coming at him with a weapon, or he was in fear for his life or health...maybe. If he just pushed her in anger, its assault and battery. She should get away from him.

    So it's not assault if she pushes him?

    Not trying to single you out, personally, but it's ridiculous that a woman get smack a man but if the man pushes her back to get her off, he's the one who gets in trouble.

    I agree. Woman take advantage of this too much too. IMO when women try to fight like a man they deserve a push, maybe even a smack in the head!
  • tomomatic
    tomomatic Posts: 1,794 Member
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    Serious answer: No. My sister's fiance begged her not to tell me about shoving her like that. You know why? because I would've dismantled him. And the people that raised him. The wedding got called off and I've never seen him again.

    It is never ok to put your hands on another human being in anger. Find a tree. Find a wall. Those hands better not find a person.
  • mynameiscarrie
    mynameiscarrie Posts: 963 Member
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  • Dub_D
    Dub_D Posts: 1,760 Member
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    The pushing her head while she's sitting...not so much. That sounds abusive.

    Yes, of course. That is abusive - no question.
  • graceylou222
    graceylou222 Posts: 198 Member
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    I don't think it is right for him to push her unless she came at him and that was his reaction. The second time around he was WAY wrong. If somebody pushed my head in an arguement, boyfriend friend whoever, they're getting punched.

    Saying this, I don't know these people and wasn't there to see the argument. So really I can't say anything, this is all he said she said. And it is only one side of the story.
  • shayyyface
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    ABSOLUTELY NOT! PROVOKED OR NOT! And I'm ashamed that another person justified it on this thread. Whether verbally or physically, It doesn't justify someone abusing someone else. My ex-husband did that to me once - at our son's little league ballpark. We were in an argument & he literally came off the baseball field in the middle of a game, backed me into a corner, shoved me & threw a drink on me. There were several witnesses and becuase this happened at a community park, the league directors had no choice but to call the police & file a report - even though I didn't want to. The police came & he was escorted out of the park & suspended from coaching for an entire season. I had SEVERAL people that came to me & offered to be a witness in my case if I pressed charges. I'm just very thankful neither one of my kids saw their dad do this.

    And for the record, he had NEVER been physically abusive to me... we were at the height of going thru our divorce & tensions were running very high between us. But that still didn't justify his behavior for what he did.

    And this goes either way - I've seen plenty of women shove their men as well!

    I like what you have to say here, and i would consider your case abusive because he did it in public. That really shows how little self control he must have had and that seems as though that could escalate much further. But I also believe that pushing someone is completely different than hitting them.
  • al369
    al369 Posts: 170 Member
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    From what you said, no. Completely not okay. She needs to get the eff out now.

    But she sounds like she's defending his actions and saying she provoked it. It doesn't sound like she's going to leave, but you should encourage her to as a friend anyway.
  • caroldot
    caroldot Posts: 388 Member
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    Also, in my state, the police told me if he had left any type of mark/bruise, they would've pressed charges and taken him to jail whether I wanted to or not. But because he didn't leave a mark, pressing charges would be up to me. However, shoving was considered physical abuse.

    And in this case of your friend, if his temper is that bad, it could just start with shoving & escalate to something worse in the future. She should at least be careful in that matter.
  • HunterKiller_wechange
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    If she was coming at him aggressively then he had the right to push her.

    No. If she was coming at him with a weapon, or he was in fear for his life or health...maybe. If he just pushed her in anger, its assault and battery. She should get away from him.

    So it's not assault if she pushes him?

    Not trying to single you out, personally, but it's ridiculous that a woman get smack a man but if the man pushes her back to get her off, he's the one who gets in trouble.

    I agree. Woman take advantage of this too much too. IMO when women try to fight like a man they deserve a push, maybe even a smack in the head!

    lol nice to see a woman that lives in the real world.
  • miadhail
    miadhail Posts: 383 Member
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    Physical aggression is never okay and thus NOT justifiable. regardless if provoked or not. That's abuse.
  • RobynLB
    RobynLB Posts: 617 Member
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    Pushing is a big red flag that your friend might be in a dangerous abusive relationaship. This should not be taken lightly or written off. These things only get much worse. Don't let her distance herself from you. Let her know that this behavior is not okay and she does not deserve it. Point her to some resources for abuse victims. Remain an open and nonjudgemental friend. She may need some support.
  • BeingAwesome247
    BeingAwesome247 Posts: 1,171 Member
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    even if the first push was justifiable (only they know really) - the second one certainly was not in the way that is described here

    Agreed
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
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    No, it's not OK.

    The correct course of action, as any self respecting man knows, is to leave the hostile environment immediately.

    And go and sleep with your other girlfriend to take your mind off things...
  • capnrus789
    capnrus789 Posts: 2,736 Member
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    Not OK. Not OK. Men shoudl keep their hands off unless asked. Especially if there's an arguement. Not OK.

    Did I mention it's not OK? No excuse, he's a turd.
  • BeingAwesome247
    BeingAwesome247 Posts: 1,171 Member
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    If she was coming at him aggressively then he had the right to push her.

    No. If she was coming at him with a weapon, or he was in fear for his life or health...maybe. If he just pushed her in anger, its assault and battery. She should get away from him.

    Also agree with this and it's something that I've addressed already with my young daughter
    "If you start a fight and want to hit like a man, expect to get hit back like a man"

    This talk was in line with - it's NOT ok to hit people .... unless they're trying to hurt you or have hit you first. Maybe it's bad parenting but I told her if someone tries to hit you, give them ONE warning and walk away. They try again - lay them out.
    So it's not assault if she pushes him?

    Not trying to single you out, personally, but it's ridiculous that a woman get smack a man but if the man pushes her back to get her off, he's the one who gets in trouble.

    I agree. Woman take advantage of this too much too. IMO when women try to fight like a man they deserve a push, maybe even a smack in the head!

    lol nice to see a woman that lives in the real world.

    Yea, I was taught and have passed this along to my daughter - dont' start a fight with a man, acting like a man and think you won't get hit back like a man.
  • VeganZombie13
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    nope never!
  • JacquelineD35
    JacquelineD35 Posts: 279 Member
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    Sore subject for me... I was in an abusive relationship for several years, so my obvious answer will be NO its not ok.
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