Should I keep dating this guy? (Cheap)
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Eh... you should be glad he was nice enough to pay for your movie...0
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Anybody that measures a man by whether or not he's willing to pay 100% of the time isn't worthy of the date in the first place. Sure, I'll be happy to treat you the first few dates in the spirit of chivalry and as an expression of my interest in you. I may even continue to pay the majority of the time after that. But I expect a little reciprocation once in a while. Whether you agree with it or not, expecting a free ride 100% of the time just because you have a vagina does not reflect positively on your character.
Sure I've got competition that will gladly throw money at you to get in your pants. But then again, so do you. I'm not that desperate.0 -
please explain to me how any of that has to do with expecting a guy to pay for everythingI'm of the opinion that it's totally ridiculous to expect a guy to pay for everything. If we as women want equal treatment in society, then we also need to let go of the chivalry we expect of men otherwise it's a bit hypocritical.
**** equal treatment!
I don't want any equal treatment! You women in America got yourself your equal treatment when have 6 weeks to take care of a baby after the delivery, and we have up to 1.5 years, our jobs are protected by the law.
Men and women are NOT the same, neither physically, nor mentally, why would we have the same responsibilities?
Equal human and political rights? Yes. But you guys take it to a freaking another level.
the fact that your job is protected by law speaks more to the necessity for women to start growing up and realizing they can pull their own weight than anything else, so i don't know what your point was here.
this thread literally took feminism back like 40 years
some of you girls need to get a grip
You need to wake up and realize that this "feminism" you're talking about is not pro women. In other countries where women did not archive this feminism yet, thank God, if a woman wants to take care of a baby, she is legally protected for staying t home on maternity leave for 1.5 to 3 years, her job is protected and she receives a percentage of her salary. That's what I call taking care of women's rights, not pushing women going back to work after 6 weeks.
No idea what you were fighting for out there. Equal treatment? What equal treatment? In some states you're not allowed to have abortion! That's not 40, that's like 60 years past in Europe.
Who needs equal treatment if its ridiculous and only causes pain in *kitten*?0 -
Wait...I pay...and I put out....then I invite them over to play video games....
Is this wrong?
I think it makes you the perfect woman!0 -
If both of you work and support yourselves, then why should one be paying more than the other?
I would run a mile from any woman who expects me to pay most of the time.
It's just being respectful.0 -
Here is what i have found...
women who dont have much going on career wise are the ones who expect men to pay for everything.
the women who ive dated who are career minded/professionals will begin to pay their share as the relationship develops and some pay their share right from the start.
a woman who has a good career and doesnt expect to be taken care of is super sexy.
Disagree.
I graduated Ivy League and now I'm an executive at an international company. And I expect my man to pay.
I'll cook for him at home but I won't pay at a restaurant. Only maybe once a year for his bday.0 -
Here is what i have found...
women who dont have much going on career wise are the ones who expect men to pay for everything.
the women who ive dated who are career minded/professionals will begin to pay their share as the relationship develops and some pay their share right from the start.
a woman who has a good career and doesnt expect to be taken care of is super sexy.
Disagree.
I graduated Ivy League and now I'm an executive at an international company. And I expect my man to pay.
I'll cook for him at home but I won't pay at a restaurant. Only maybe once a year for his bday.
nothing is 100% but most women who have good careers dont expect men to pay for everything. and not every "executive" is making bank. so for those of you that need a man to show you the finer things i guess i understand a little.0 -
I think... you are... very confused. This debate is not about America vs. Europe, it is about how rude, presumptuous, and mean it is for a woman to expect a man to pay for her and then turn around and shame him when he doesn't. I don't know why you're making this about America, considering nothing I've said has in any way insinuated that I support the way women's rights are handled in this country. But way to go with the total avoidance of the subject at hand.You need to wake up and realize that this "feminism" you're talking about is not pro women. In other countries where women did not archive this feminism yet, thank God, if a woman wants to take care of a baby, she is legally protected for staying t home on maternity leave for 1.5 to 3 years, her job is protected and she receives a percentage of her salary. That's what I call taking care of women's rights, not pushing women going back to work after 6 weeks.
No idea what you were fighting for out there. Equal treatment? What equal treatment? In some states you're not allowed to have abortion! That's not 40, that's like 60 years past in Europe.
Who needs equal treatment if its ridiculous and only causes pain in *kitten*?
The point is this - in this day and age where a woman's right to work is, as it should be, protected by her civil rights, there is no legitimate reason for her to expect a man to pay for everything she needs on a date. That practice came about BECAUSE women had no, or little, money in their own names because IT WAS ILLEGAL. Now that we've achieved equal status, it is COMPLETELY absurd to expect men to empty out their pockets just to court us.
Like I said earlier in this topic, if your preferences dictate that a guy should spoil you and you should never have to pay a cent for anything, fine. I hope you find a guy who is willing to abide that kind of brattiness. But that's not the norm anymore because it is an outdated and unfair practice. If you want that done for you, it's YOUR responsibility to let the guy know. It's NOT your right to expect it of him, and it certainly isn't your right to shame and disgrace him when he doesn't cater to your princess-level desires without even being warned of what they are.0 -
Wait...I pay...and I put out....then I invite them over to play video games....
Is this wrong?
friend request in 3...2..1...0 -
I always thought it was simple supply/demand economics. We have it. They want it. Thus we control the price. Now the only question left is, how badly does he want it?
Personally, I'd be insulted at the idea that I should give it up so cheaply. He needs to cough up the cash :laugh:0 -
^ why you mad?
i also LOVE when women taut feminism as being this life changing event yet they totally ignore the demographics of who's actually taking care of their kids, cooking their meals, cleaning their homes etc.0 -
Here is what i have found...
women who dont have much going on career wise are the ones who expect men to pay for everything.
the women who ive dated who are career minded/professionals will begin to pay their share as the relationship develops and some pay their share right from the start.
a woman who has a good career and doesnt expect to be taken care of is super sexy.
Disagree.
I graduated Ivy League and now I'm an executive at an international company. And I expect my man to pay.
I'll cook for him at home but I won't pay at a restaurant. Only maybe once a year for his bday.
nothing is 100% but most women who have good careers dont expect men to pay for everything. and not every "executive" is making bank. so for those of you that need a man to show you the finer things i guess i understand a little.
I should've add that most of my girlfriends are pretty successful and follow the same way.
When women are successful and have something in life, they won't date a broke guy from a street, no, we want a man equal to us in terms of education, money and career. And I have not yet met a successful man who would ask a lady to pay at a restaurant. That's low class.0 -
I think whoever initiated the date should pay. If it was a mutual decision, split the bill. That just seems fair (and like good manners) to me.
I agree.
So let me get this straight, I am paying for the honor of spending time with you?
I will make sure to ask in future if the girl I'm asking out is from an escort service...0 -
Here is what i have found...
women who dont have much going on career wise are the ones who expect men to pay for everything.
the women who ive dated who are career minded/professionals will begin to pay their share as the relationship develops and some pay their share right from the start.
a woman who has a good career and doesnt expect to be taken care of is super sexy.
Disagree.
I graduated Ivy League and now I'm an executive at an international company. And I expect my man to pay.
I'll cook for him at home but I won't pay at a restaurant. Only maybe once a year for his bday.
I don't think theres a requirement to want a free meal off of somebody...0 -
To the OP: Break it off immediately. (For his sake)0
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A gentleman always pays.
Actually that really depends on how much he likes you. I have no problem paying if I feel like the date went well and I want to see the girl again. If it sucked, we're splitting the bill. Being a "gentleman" is over rated.0 -
If my man has the money, he pays. Always. (We've been together over a year.) Find a more decent guy.
^^^ This except now with divorced guys (child support)...I do find myself paying more than I did:grumble:0 -
Those demographics are part of the patriarchal norms of society that feminism combats... By saying what you posted above, you assumed that it is a woman's job to be home with the kids and NOT to have a career.^ why you mad?
i also LOVE when women taut feminism as being this life changing event yet they totally ignore the demographics of who's actually taking care of their kids, cooking their meals, cleaning their homes etc.0 -
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When women are successful and have something in life, they won't date a broke guy from a street, no, we want a man equal to us in terms of education, money and career. And I have not yet met a successful man who would ask a lady to pay at a restaurant. That's low class.
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If you want a man equal to you then wouldn't it logically make sense to split the bill?0 -
I should've add that most of my girlfriends are pretty successful and follow the same way.
When women are successful and have something in life, they won't date a broke guy from a street, no, we want a man equal to us in terms of education, money and career. And I have not yet met a successful man who would ask a lady to pay at a restaurant. That's low class.
lol.. expecting a man to pay for every date you go on is low class.
maybe your definition of "successful" is below mine because every single woman i have ever met that was truly successful did not expect or want a man to pay for every date they had.0 -
I think... you are... very confused. This debate is not about America vs. Europe, it is about how rude, presumptuous, and mean it is for a woman to expect a man to pay for her and then turn around and shame him when he doesn't. I don't know why you're making this about America, considering nothing I've said has in any way insinuated that I support the way women's rights are handled in this country. But way to go with the total avoidance of the subject at hand.You need to wake up and realize that this "feminism" you're talking about is not pro women. In other countries where women did not archive this feminism yet, thank God, if a woman wants to take care of a baby, she is legally protected for staying t home on maternity leave for 1.5 to 3 years, her job is protected and she receives a percentage of her salary. That's what I call taking care of women's rights, not pushing women going back to work after 6 weeks.
No idea what you were fighting for out there. Equal treatment? What equal treatment? In some states you're not allowed to have abortion! That's not 40, that's like 60 years past in Europe.
Who needs equal treatment if its ridiculous and only causes pain in *kitten*?
The point is this - in this day and age where a woman's right to work is, as it should be, protected by her civil rights, there is no legitimate reason for her to expect a man to pay for everything she needs on a date. That practice came about BECAUSE women had no, or little, money in their own names because IT WAS ILLEGAL. Now that we've achieved equal status, it is COMPLETELY absurd to expect men to empty out their pockets just to court us.
Like I said earlier in this topic, if your preferences dictate that a guy should spoil you and you should never have to pay a cent for anything, fine. I hope you find a guy who is willing to abide that kind of brattiness. But that's not the norm anymore because it is an outdated and unfair practice. If you want that done for you, it's YOUR responsibility to let the guy know. It's NOT your right to expect it of him, and it certainly isn't your right to shame and disgrace him when he doesn't cater to your princess-level desires without even being warned of what they are.
Lol, you think I'm confused? Oh dear
you demand equal rights yet you have no idea why you need them.
And quit saying what I have to do. I have never met a man who didn't want to pay for my dinner.
I guess I do not look like a woman who fights to be equal with men. And they love it 0 -
Here is what i have found...
women who dont have much going on career wise are the ones who expect men to pay for everything.
the women who ive dated who are career minded/professionals will begin to pay their share as the relationship develops and some pay their share right from the start.
a woman who has a good career and doesnt expect to be taken care of is super sexy.
Disagree.
I graduated Ivy League and now I'm an executive at an international company. And I expect my man to pay.
I'll cook for him at home but I won't pay at a restaurant. Only maybe once a year for his bday.
nothing is 100% but most women who have good careers dont expect men to pay for everything. and not every "executive" is making bank. so for those of you that need a man to show you the finer things i guess i understand a little.
I should've add that most of my girlfriends are pretty successful and follow the same way.
When women are successful and have something in life, they won't date a broke guy from a street, no, we want a man equal to us in terms of education, money and career. And I have not yet met a successful man who would ask a lady to pay at a restaurant. That's low class.
Please don't speak for all "successful" women.
ETA - you are certainly entitled to your opinion but that doesn't make it what all successful women want.0 -
We take care of each other. She pays once in a while, I pay once in a while. Otherwise its a parasitic relationship.
Your mileage may vary.0 -
I can't believe people think the guy should pay for everything. Maybe 20 years ago. Such an outdated notion. I guess we women folk should just stay home and clean, because we don't have any money of our own.0
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He is 29 and we seem to get along great.
Date 1: We had 2 drinks he payed.
Date 2: Watched movie (he payed), DIDN'T ask me if I wanted popcorn. After movie went to restaurant, I had like a 7 dollar plate, bill came and it was split. I asked if he wanted me to pay he said yes since he paid for movie.
Since this is date 2, is it too soon for him to start wanting me to pay or am I over reacting?
Haha... Did you have fun and enjoy his company?
Ask yourself.... do you want a man to pay for you? or do you want a man to be a companion with?
There are plenty of men out there that would pay for you... but that doesn't make it meaningful and fulfilling.0 -
I like to pay for myself. I have my own money and everything.0
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^ why you mad?
i also LOVE when women taut feminism as being this life changing event yet they totally ignore the demographics of who's actually taking care of their kids, cooking their meals, cleaning their homes etc.
Thank you!
I'll accept equal rights when women become as strong physically as men. And of course, I accept equal rights, when men start having menstruation, carrying babies for 9 months, delivering a baby with paid and blood, and breast feed them. And all that with looking pretty for him, cooking and cleaning, AND having career.0 -
^ why you mad?
i also LOVE when women taut feminism as being this life changing event yet they totally ignore the demographics of who's actually taking care of their kids, cooking their meals, cleaning their homes etc.
I just nodded and clinked my ice-filled cup in your general direction. Here, here.
There isn't a feminist bone in my itty bitty little taken care of body. I still manage to function. And am....... like........ happy.0 -
Really? Okay, please explain to me the purpose of my equal rights and treatment and then please explain to me why it is okay for me to place expectations on men simply because they are men when I do not want any expectations placed on me simply because I am a woman.
Lol, you think I'm confused? Oh dear you demand equal rights yet you have no idea why you need them.
And quit saying what I have to do. I have never met a man who didn't want to pay for my dinner. I guess I do not look like a woman who fights to be equal with men. And they love it
Oh, honey. Don't flatter yourself. All of us have had men wanting to pay for our dinners. But there is a difference between a man wanting to pay for your dinner and a woman expecting a man to pay for her dinner and then throwing a hissy fit when he doesn't.0 -
Wow aren't you a rude one? if anything he should stop dating you!0
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