Why wouldn't you kiss someone?
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one woman i dated was the WORST kisser every. A horrible kisser sucks...and besides trying to guide them while kissing...how do you tell them they stink at kissing lol.
"Honey, you know that really hot friend of yours that you have a girl crush on? Yes, that one. You should practice kissing with her."0 -
one woman i dated was the WORST kisser every. A horrible kisser sucks...and besides trying to guide them while kissing...how do you tell them they stink at kissing lol.
"Honey, you know that really hot friend of yours that you have a girl crush on? Yes, that one. You should practice kissing with her."
"and i will supervise just to make sure its going well....in the back corner...with my pants down...just pretend I'm not even there"0 -
one woman i dated was the WORST kisser every. A horrible kisser sucks...and besides trying to guide them while kissing...how do you tell them they stink at kissing lol.
"Honey, you know that really hot friend of yours that you have a girl crush on? Yes, that one. You should practice kissing with her."
"and i will supervise just to make sure its going well....in the back corner...with my pants down...just pretend I'm not even there"
Perfect. And I guarantee that she won't think its because she's a bad kisser. Her feelings are preserved. Totally win-win.0 -
Most guys who just want some cuddling skip kissing because then that means, it means something. Thats happened to me. I just got out of a 4 year relationship and was all about kissing. He was like, umm Im not really the kissing type and then wanted me to umm...do stuff.0
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Also, when the hell did kissing become more intimate than having sex?
That is probably the issue with my generation.
Kissing actually is a lot more intimate the f***ing, which refers to a very specific kinda sex that you normally have while wasted with a guy you met at a club or when rebounding or when you just wanna get some without any strings attached.
Kissing is kind of more emotionally intimate than some kinds of sex. Sounds weird to say but I totally understand that sentiment.
Even so I've never hooked up with a guy who didn't start off by making out with me but kissing is mostly something I've done with someone I'm dating
And OP if you're saying you like blew this guy then he was just looking to get some without even bothering with the "opening act" of kissing, did you ever see that friends episode when the guys and girls discuss what kissing means to them?0 -
Instead. We fell asleep for awhile while cuddling. Woke up in the middle of the night to fondling, groping, yadda yadda. This to me is "fooling around". I told him I didn't want to have sex yet but I would at least be nice enough to not leave him suffering, if you know what I mean.
this is where you went wrong.
fondling, groping is not "fooling around".
technically speaking... fondling, groping is what the TSA does to you before they allow you to get on a plane.
happy to help clear up any confusion.
have a nice day.
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Instead. We fell asleep for awhile while cuddling. Woke up in the middle of the night to fondling, groping, yadda yadda. This to me is "fooling around". I told him I didn't want to have sex yet but I would at least be nice enough to not leave him suffering, if you know what I mean.
this is where you went wrong.
fondling, groping is not "fooling around".
technically speaking... fondling, groping is what the TSA does to you before they allow you to get on a plane.
happy to help clear up any confusion.
have a nice day.
I didn't really want to go into full details and turn this into a soft core porn discussion, haha.0 -
I have NEVER messed around with anyone (in about 28 years of dating/relationships/hookups/what-have-you) without SOME kissing going on...
the "no kissing" thing reminds me of "Pretty Woman."
Unless you're just looking for a hookup, I'd move on to someone who really DOES want to kiss and cuddle--that's a lot more fun (in my opinion)0 -
I read ALOT of relationship books and columns, since I just got out of a trainwreck relationship.
All the books state men who just want one night stands, with no relationship, won't kiss the woman.0 -
I didn't really want to go into full details and turn this into a soft core porn discussion, haha.
You could speak in Forgetting Sarah Marshall code...."I need to B my L on some Ts"...or "Put your P in her V and make a B-A-B-Y"0 -
I don't kiss women because I think they're unattractive or have bad hygiene. Or if I have ever seen them with a cold sore. Other than that, I am a man of passion and kissing is great foreplay for me (and her)0
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Most guys who just want some cuddling skip kissing because then that means, it means something. Thats happened to me. I just got out of a 4 year relationship and was all about kissing. He was like, umm Im not really the kissing type and then wanted me to umm...do stuff.
I like it when girls do stuff.0 -
The no kissing because it's intimate notion is utter bull****. The only people who believe that are promiscuous women/men who are looking for something to hold on to because they've lost any sense of "special" feeling or value from intimacy aka sex. To think that kissing is more personal than sex? Ha!0
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this is MFP....doesnt that USUALLY HAPPEN????Instead. We fell asleep for awhile while cuddling. Woke up in the middle of the night to fondling, groping, yadda yadda. This to me is "fooling around". I told him I didn't want to have sex yet but I would at least be nice enough to not leave him suffering, if you know what I mean.
this is where you went wrong.
fondling, groping is not "fooling around".
technically speaking... fondling, groping is what the TSA does to you before they allow you to get on a plane.
happy to help clear up any confusion.
have a nice day.
I didn't really want to go into full details and turn this into a soft core porn discussion, haha.0 -
Who cares? If he doesn't want to kiss and you do, then move on. 0
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I would like to first say how disturbed I am that so many women think prostitution is like "Pretty Woman". Secondly tread carefully with a co-worker using you for a hit and run.
Lastly your description of the not driving him hanging by avoiding to state if it was oral sex or hand job, reminded me of this comedy skit by Key & Peele.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYQK6fUdmkISomehow a lot happened in the time that I was gone. Did not expect this to be that popular. I will give you guys more details before reading all of these pages.
Me and Said Co-Worker had hung out before. He'd taken me on a nice dinner date. We spent a day together running errands. From there it led to flirting at work. We work a lot of late night shifts with 13 hour days, so he'd joke about how I should just come and crash with him in his bed. When it came up last night, yes, I knew what "cuddle and sleep" meant.
I was not looking to sleep with him. I was however, hoping to make out. Maybe get some nice intimate time. Pass out. Leave in the morning. Call it a day.
Instead. We fell asleep for awhile while cuddling. Woke up in the middle of the night to fondling, groping, yadda yadda. This to me is "fooling around". I told him I didn't want to have sex yet but I would at least be nice enough to not leave him suffering, if you know what I mean.
Cut to the end part of everything. I left this morning on the note that we'd spend another night together soon, but then looked back on it and realized that not once did we kiss. I'm so used to the order being Kiss > Heavily Make Out > Grope like you're teenagers > Have Sex. This was more like. Cuddle > Grope like teenagers > Explore Body Parts > End Game.
I'm not a prostitute. I also haven't been with anyone for a few months. This could be the problem. Being in your mid 20's is weird.0 -
I didn't read the other replies yet but I'm guessing if you fooled around without having traditional sex he blew his load in your mouth and didn't want to kiss you afterward.0
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WOW...if you flirt with a guy for several weeks, what a guy has to do? he will have you come over because you basically invited yourself.
Any woman can with her flirting get most any men to get her invited over for at least one night of "cuddles", but it is so not worth it. Why would any girl want that?
It is better to be single then with a wrong guy, and guy like this is definitely no a good friendship material.
You are worth a lot more, but "a lot more" will not come your way if you throw yourself at anyone who winks.0 -
Is "cuddling" code for sex? Or, like, "everything but sex"?0
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Wait..
I think they learned this watching Pretty Woman. Kissing is most personal. It's ok to share your sexy bits with everyone, but not your mouth. Well, you can put your mouth anywhere on them BUT their mouth. That's how it works.This thread is pretty strange, or maybe I'm just getting old and don't know what it's like in the dating scene anymore. Isn't sex more intimate than kissing? :huh:
Makes perfect sense, right?
Are you disrespecting Pretty Woman ? :huh:0 -
Young people! Kissing can be so freaking passionate! A Fabulous lover will have you at the kiss. If a guy had "game" he would know that. To answer your question: to engage in Porn Sex or Self Sex. Neither require kissing. To get a woman worked up first with the kiss is to engage in a far more intimate, sensual, and satisfying experience. For you guys who don't kiss, or don't know how, or are bad, LEARN! A woman who is in the moment completely is a far more satisfied woman, and a satisfied woman makes for a very satisfied man.0
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I didn't read the other replies yet but I'm guessing if you fooled around without having traditional sex he blew his load in your mouth and didn't want to kiss you afterward.
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I didn't read the other replies yet but I'm guessing if you fooled around without having traditional sex he blew his load in your mouth and didn't want to kiss you afterward.
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I didn't read the other replies yet but I'm guessing if you fooled around without having traditional sex he blew his load in your mouth and didn't want to kiss you afterward.
You've been that route ?0 -
I told him I didn't want to have sex yet but I would at least be nice enough to not leave him suffering, if you know what I mean.
Nevermind. You're allright in my book. And no one kisses at 3:00 a.m.
Lies! I wake up in the middle of the night and kiss at 3AM, very softly though. I'm usually just snuggling closer and falling back into dreams.0 -
It's the herpes!0
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I didn't read the other replies yet but I'm guessing if you fooled around without having traditional sex he blew his load in your mouth and didn't want to kiss you afterward.
agreed. was just about to type this actually0 -
actually, the problem might be that he is a CO-WORKER...co-workers are taboo...should not have happened AT ALL...NEVER GET INVOLVED WITH A CO-WORKER, IT IS BAD NEWS!!!! if you do, and then it goes sour, you'll feel uncomfortable...for a long time...best not to go there...sometimes, people have to move on and get another job, to solve this issue....it's best to forget this person, and find someone that is more suited for you....PLEASE, not another co-worker....GOOD-LUCK!!!!0
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Here to the unpopular point of view - abstain from intimacy like that until you meet your best friend who you want to marry, then after wedding have all you want. I am big fan of this, because I have found it to be the only one way that works with Happily Ever After ending. Some values are solid and don't change. Yes, I have been in my 20 ties and done all kinds of things that I regret NOW looking back when I am wiser.
I will say again, it is better to be single than with a wrong kind of person. As far as getting some once in a while - get a grip, and control over your thoughts. Anyone who lets body call shots will not come out a winner in life but will be slave to their body's cravings. This also includes food cravings calling the shots.0 -
I didn't read the other replies yet but I'm guessing if you fooled around without having traditional sex he blew his load in your mouth and didn't want to kiss you afterward.
You've been that route ?
Only douches feel that way, and clearly this guy is a douche. It's not like she wanted to snowball him.0
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