How to target back fat?
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If you truly want the answer to this then you will read it online. Had you done so you would have seen countless studies from doctors, personal trainers, etc. YOu'd rather come on here and be the drama queen. I have no respect for someone who would rather have the answers given to her than to research herself. If you don't "get it" then it's YOUR PROBLEM.
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
Referring to a book that someone is selling is not evidence. Why don't you quote some of these studies you say are in the book.
You make accusations, why don't you actually support them rather than deflecting.
And yes, what did all your posts have to do with back fat I ask myself as well.0 -
Running and cardio is good.
Balance is better.
Do some cardio and some strength.
I saw the biggest improvements in my physique come when I started boxing... which added in body weight strength training. Squats, pushups, planks, punching, skipping, stairs.
If you want a strong back, pushup and planks. If you can lift, awesome.
I don't lift. Don't have time.
The more muscle you build, the less fat you will end up having. Eat well. Increase your protein.
Oh and a healthy dose of respect and humility for those who've been there and are trying to help you, that wouldn't hurt either.0 -
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm loving that this thread turned my FL into a bunch of sexy back shots. Begs the question: is there a How to Tone Up My Booty thread we can hop to next and get the same result?
Also, who the hell is Michele Berger, and why is the fact that she scratched out a book relevant to anything, anywhere? Huffing? Buffing? GTFO
I agree. I've passed on an hour of Counterstrike just to being a big nerd and lurk this thread.0 -
If you truly want the answer to this then you will read it online. Had you done so you would have seen countless studies from doctors. YOu'd rather come on here and be the drama queen. I have no respect for someone who would rather have the answers given to her than to research herself. If you don't "get it" then it's YOUR PROBLEM.
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
Referring to a book that someone is selling is not evidence. Why don't you quote some of these studies you say are in the book.
You make accusations, why don't you actually support them rather than deflecting.
And yes, what did all your posts have to do with back fat I ask myself as well.
You made the assertions, it is up to you to back them...that's the way it works.
I find it incredibly ironic that you are calling me a drama queen. I also find it ironic to be accused as someone who does not actually do any research by someone who refused to support any of her claims at that!.
How can I *get* something that is drivel?0 -
uteruses before cooteruses.
fix't
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I do not smoke crack. Do you?Do you smoke crack in your spare time? JW, lol, :flowerforyou:
Not even going to dignify this question with a response, you are completely out of line.0 -
uteruses before cooteruses.
fix't
Aren't they the same thing? Not my favorite euphemism, but you know.0 -
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm loving that this thread turned my FL into a bunch of sexy back shots. Begs the question: is there a How to Tone Up My Booty thread we can hop to next and get the same result?
Also, who the hell is Michele Berger, and why is the fact that she scratched out a book relevant to anything, anywhere? Huffing? Buffing? GTFO
*prays* please let this happen.0 -
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.htmlOh okay, duh! I am sorry. A woman's body is exactly like a man's. They get their period too. My apologies. They hold on to fat in prep for babies too. They also have the same exact muscle mass as women. They lose weight the same as women. It is just as easy for women to lose weight as it is for men. Men and women have the same muscle to fat ratios genetically. Men go through menopause just like women. Women get extra fat in their tummies when they lose testosterone as they age, just like a man. Women and men have the same proportions such as the same size hips. Women do not genetically have larger hips for childbirth. Gee, thanks for clearing this up. Your comment has got to be the DUMBEST I have EVER heard. All you can say is, "you're wrong" but not say why? OMG! I have heard it ALL NOW!
This exactly.0 -
strength training
strength training
strength training
trust me, you'll love it. give up all that cardio. you don't need it. 2-3 days a week tops. the rest of the time, you should be doing dead lisfts, squats, chest press, and over head press.
There is no way I am giving up half the cardio I am doing. I absolutely love it. I love running for miles with my thoughts and music blaring in my ears. I will try adding 2 days a week of strength training, because honestly...I think any muscle definition in women whether it is arms or stomach is too masculine for my taste.
Don't get me wrong, I want to tighten up...but I don't want biceps or a six pack. I like looking feminine, I just want to be healthier.
well, i think muscle definition in a woman is drop-dead sexy. i like a girl that lifts weight.
and it takes a long time, a very long time to get a six pack or HOOGE biceps. it doesn't happen after a month or even a year of strength training. and even then, it only happens with a calorie surplus.0 -
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm loving that this thread turned my FL into a bunch of sexy back shots. Begs the question: is there a How to Tone Up My Booty thread we can hop to next and get the same result?
Also, who the hell is Michele Berger, and why is the fact that she scratched out a book relevant to anything, anywhere? Huffing? Buffing? GTFO
Here davpul... booty and back... just for you. ..0 -
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.0 -
I haven't read all these replies but.....
I'm a female, age 35, and I've lost 60lbs in 19 months (started back exercising when my baby was 7 weeks old). I have a male personal trainer, and I do a lot of strength training. I also do a lot of cardio and classes, although some of the classes involve some strength training too.
I'll just change my profile pic to one where you can see my back in the mirror. It's not perfect, but I've lost so much fat off my back, and really toned it up, as well as my arms and shoulders.
So, I agree with strength training, it definitely helps.0 -
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I think I should have been more specific. I meant dried orange peels. And as I said, it is a treat in other cultures....cultures that I grew up with -.-0 -
I don't answer to you, you are not my boss, my parent, my husband nor my teacher. Nor are you the police. Sorry to disappoint, but you are not as entitled as you have led yourself to believe. The orange peel comment was for Joylia who posted in another thread that she is going to eat orange peels.
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.0 -
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.
Seems she has issues with other cultures since she keeps bringing it up to try to shame me0 -
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm loving that this thread turned my FL into a bunch of sexy back shots. Begs the question: is there a How to Tone Up My Booty thread we can hop to next and get the same result?
Also, who the hell is Michele Berger, and why is the fact that she scratched out a book relevant to anything, anywhere? Huffing? Buffing? GTFO
Ditto.
I just woke up.
THis is pretty awesome.0 -
uteruses before cooteruses.
fix't
no you didn't0 -
NOBODY is on the same page as you, because you're reading your own little book of crazy.
Thank you Joylia. That 's my point. Sara gets confused easily and that said, I don't feel "up" to conversating with her. It just isn't worth my time. She isn't on the same page. I have no interest.
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.0 -
Haha!
NOBODY is on the same page as you, because you're reading your own little book of crazy.
Thank you Joylia. That 's my point. Sara gets confused easily and that said, I don't feel "up" to conversating with her. It just isn't worth my time. She isn't on the same page. I have no interest.
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.0 -
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.
lol - I know it was to you. I was saying that if you are delusional due to eating orange peel, as I do not, I must be ok to ask the question.
I have a double win...does not eat orange peel and has a uterus. You young lady only meet one of the criteria
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Thank you Joylia. That 's my point. Sara gets confused easily and that said, I don't feel "up" to conversating with her. It just isn't worth my time. She isn't on the same page. I have no interest.
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.
FYI, Sara is one of the most well-informed and intelligent people here. You have an entire thread of people disagreeing with you, which doesn't really bode well for the accuracy of your information. Whether or not you intended to, the fact is that you have come across as a huge censored, and Sara has a history of being both genuinely helpful and successful. Next, please.0 -
Thank you Joylia. That 's my point. Sara gets confused easily and that said, I don't feel "up" to conversating with her. It just isn't worth my time.
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.
Actually, I knew you were not referring to me.0 -
Thank you Joylia. That 's my point. Sara gets confused easily and that said, I don't feel "up" to conversating with her. It just isn't worth my time.
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.
You know, I'm glad I found you. I need your approval to cut down some lollipop trees outside the sea monkey hut.
These decisions have to go through you because you're the mayor of crazy town,0 -
Thank you Joylia. That 's my point. Sara gets confused easily and that said, I don't feel "up" to conversating with her. It just isn't worth my time.
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.
Sara is one of the most knowledgable peeps around, along with Sidesteel, Dav, Taso, Ninerbuff, Apollo, Lea, MoreBean, and Adini.
Your loss0 -
Thank you Joylia. That 's my point. Sara gets confused easily and that said, I don't feel "up" to conversating with her. It just isn't worth my time.
I see you have been eating too many orange peels again.I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all
I don't eat orange peel, but you dodged my question asking the same.
That was to me, Sara, based on another thread because she was talking about not eating things you can't pronounce. I gave her the chemical makeup of oranges and orange peels.
Sara is one of the most knowledgable peeps around, along with Sidesteel, Dav, Taso, Apollo, Lea, MoreBean, and Adini.
Your loss
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Anyone notice that our friend has neither provided any examples of these alleged sexist comment nor any studies to support her assertions re training/eating differently around our cycles?0
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There is no way I am giving up half the cardio I am doing. I absolutely love it. I love running for miles with my thoughts and music blaring in my ears. I will try adding 2 days a week of strength training, because honestly...I think any muscle definition in women whether it is arms or stomach is too masculine for my taste.
Don't get me wrong, I want to tighten up...but I don't want biceps or a six pack. I like looking feminine, I just want to be healthier.
well, i think muscle definition in a woman is drop-dead sexy. i like a girl that lifts weight.
and it takes a long time, a very long time to get a six pack or HOOGE biceps. it doesn't happen after a month or even a year of strength training. and even then, it only happens with a calorie surplus.
Funny... the response I get from guys when they see my six pack, strong shoulders, biceps, and muscled back has not been one of "welcome to the men's room, what's your testosterone at"... but rather... more of a stand at attention response that leads me to believe that its not nearly as manly a look as you might think.
Just an observation.0 -
Sara I'm eating Chunky Monkey right now...............want some?:flowerforyou:
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It isn't MY job to provide research. I showed you where to find it. if you want it you'll seek it. So I can say to you the sky is falling and if I post a link to "Chicken Little" you'll believe it? Wow, that 's easy. So you want me to post links and research? That's all it takes huh?Anyone notice that our friend has neither provided any examples of these alleged sexist comment nor any studies to support her assertions re training/eating differently around our cycles?0
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