Eating Pop Tarts and ice cream daily.
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The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature and very rude. It's as if they are in junior high. Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't
just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel and completely stupid.
Um. Yeah. Clearly you didn't look at the OP, me. I think I'm speaking from a decent position regarding weight loss. Done a good amount of it.
you ate 2,000 cal today of junk food. you're not really in a decent position to discuss HEALTHY weight loss.....
Pretty sure I eat more of what you call healthy in a given day then you. A couple lbs of vegetables and 1.5 - 2 lbs of chicken a day. Not to mention I didn't eat this much when losing, which obviously decreased what you call junk intake.
As of last week my RHR is 58, BP 110/70, total cholesterol 98 w/ no issues in any other marker.
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awww snap! my cholesterol is 87! other numbers are almost identical.
and please look at my diary before you make such silly claims. soooo many vegetables. (ps i'm prolly way smaller than you so physically eating more than me isn't much of a feat)0 -
Valid. Please forgive my ignorance
Toaster strudel on bottom, pop tart on top, ben and jerrys in the middle.I wonder if anyone has said screw it and just had them both together....
What together?
Sorry....my bad. I was talking about a Pop Tart and a Toaster Strudel.
Seriously? Toaster strudel (squishy and flimsy as it is) on the bottom? A delicious bottom crust of pop tart would be much more suitable. After that I think all flavors are up to the individual. The bottom and top crust protocol screams for a sturdy bottom - the toasted pop tart.
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Ummmm, is this for real???The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. Some are diabetic. This is a HELP forum. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel!0 -
LOL. Love it!The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. Some are diabetic. This is a HELP forum. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel!
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LOL. Love it!The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. Some are diabetic. This is a HELP forum. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel!
Perfect! Personally, MFP has freed me from the tyranny of seeing food as the enemy. No longer do I follow some fad diet, cut out food groups, sugar, fat, chewing gum, lemon juice (delete as appropriate each week as my 'diet plan' changes), lose 7lbs, fall off the wagon and binge, put it back on and some. Ad infinitum.
By working food such as icecream, chocolate and alcohol into my macros and calorie intake I have, for the first time in my life, lost weight while feeling very well in myself. By not being on a strict 'diet' I do not struggle to stick to my calorie intake and I don't get an overwhelming sense of shame on a daily basis for having snacks.
Oh, and despite eating fat and sugar my glucose, cholesterol and HDL and LDL stats are close to perfect. In fact they have improved since I joined MFP thanks to my weight loss and increased activity.
MFP is a very broad tool for people who want to be fit and healthy. People with genuine food addiction who might get upset about threads about real food would be best seeking the advice of a professional.
And those who want to be mean to those of us who don't eat clean or perfect 100% of the time - shaming other people for the food choices they make is petty and borderline bullying, plain and simple.0 -
The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. Some are diabetic. This is a HELP forum. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel!
Here's the thing that you have obviously overlooked: This is a forum. You are free to read, comment, ignore, move on, as you wish. There is nothing wrong with doing things in moderation. I still struggle with this, but it certainly doesn't send me over the edge in to a "binge fest" of over eating because someone is posting pictures of poptarts or ice cream - OR BOTH! If this post is strong enough to push me into forgetting my losses in the last year - I was never going to succeed anyway. It's not childish and certainly not cruel. Grow up.0 -
Just getting this thread back on track
Haters gonna hate :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Odd I resized that that deliciousness0 -
Think I would rather have cookies or brownies with ice cream than pop tarts lol.0
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Taso- No, pretty much, 3 people said you will die. The rest said "yeah, i like some bad stuff, too."
You owe me a swig of post-workout protein shake... nice one.0 -
The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. Some are diabetic. This is a HELP forum. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel!
I really don't think that's what people who post about moderation are thinking or doing. What they are trying to say is that you don't have to restrict food groups. Now if you find that poptarts or ice cream or whatever are going to trigger binges the that's another thing. But for a lot of people it's just that they don't realize that moderation is a possibility. They think if they're going to be healthy they have to cut out the foods they enjoy, and that leads to failure for people like me. It's been tremendously helpful for me to see that people can eat those foods in the context of a nutrient dense diet and still be fit. It is the opposite of cruel. These threads may not be helpful for you, but they will be helpful for someone else. That's the great thing about a public forum-- there's something here that will be helpful for just about everyone.0 -
I "brag" about eating pizza once a week. Thick crust, and half the pie. Yesterday was bacon cheeseburger pizza, and dinner was 900 calories.
Do I say that to be mean? No! I say it because I used to be someone who didn't think I could eat pizza and pasta and all kinds of other yummies and still lose/maintain my weight.
I've since come to realize that I was very, very wrong when I thought being or getting healthy was painful or required deprivation.
If you can't fit in foods you enjoy, if you're miserable with what you're eating, you're doing it wrong. I'm not saying everyone should have 900 calories for dinner, but if I was a less active person who required less calories, two slices of pizza at 450 calories would have sufficed.
And forget pizza and ice cream and Pop Tarts. There's no reason under the sun that EVERYTHING you eat shouldn't be delicious. Plain grilled chicken is boring. Grilled chicken that's been sitting in marinade or topped with bbq sauce is fantastic, and not many calories more.0 -
I've just planned my day today so that I can try a (small) pop tart ice cream sandwich and hit my macros, and I never would have done that had I not been on the thread - yes I have always treats but I don't always plan them so well. Doing this has made me realise with a bit of thought I can have my cake and eat it
So this thread has helped me :drinker: and it has also kept me entertained all of last night. :laugh:
Deprivation =/= healthy weight loss
A little of what you like does you good :flowerforyou:0 -
I "brag" about eating pizza once a week. Thick crust, and half the pie. Yesterday was bacon cheeseburger pizza, and dinner was 900 calories.
Do I say that to be mean? No! I say it because I used to be someone who didn't think I could eat pizza and pasta and all kinds of other yummies and still lose/maintain my weight.
I've since come to realize that I was very, very wrong when I thought being or getting healthy was painful or required deprivation.
If you can't fit in foods you enjoy, if you're miserable with what you're eating, you're doing it wrong. I'm not saying everyone should have 900 calories for dinner, but if I was a less active person who required less calories, two slices of pizza at 450 calories would have sufficed.
And forget pizza and ice cream and Pop Tarts. There's no reason under the sun that EVERYTHING you eat shouldn't be delicious. Plain grilled chicken is boring. Grilled chicken that's been sitting in marinade or topped with bbq sauce is fantastic, and not many calories more.
Well said.0 -
I've just planned my day today so that I can try a (small) pop tart ice cream sandwich and hit my macros, and I never would have done that had I not been on the thread - yes I have always treats but I don't always plan them so well. Doing this has made me realise with a bit of thought I can have my cake and eat it
So this thread has helped me :drinker: and it has also kept me entertained all of last night. :laugh:
Deprivation =/= healthy weight loss
A little of what you like does you good :flowerforyou:
I decided to try "open face" with a spoon instead of sandwich style last night thanks to all the pics in this thread. Can't say I was disappointed. In fact it was a bit less messy to be honest.
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The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. Some are diabetic. This is a HELP forum. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel!
Lol.
Actually, I think it's more like "you can eat these things in moderation." Because most people can. Does moderation take practice? Yep. Is it more sustainable than planning on cutting out every food that some magazine article told you was bad? I think so.
Also, there are a lot of people on here who aren't addicted to food. They just were lazy about paying attention to how much they were eating. So, your example doesn't apply. Are there some for real addicted people here? Sure. But statistically speaking, they probably aren't the norm.
I wanted to add to that food and alcohol are not good examples here. If someone is truly addicted to food, they are going to have to learn to moderate their choices. Whether they like it or not. You can't live without food obviously. It's fine for an alcoholic to cut out alcohol for the rest of their life, because they don't need it. You can't do that with food. So, once again, moderation for the win.
LOL!
The OP's post said, "I eat a poptart AND ice cream every day. It didn't say I eat one or the other, but both. It didn't say once or twice a week.
That is NOT "in moderation" as you say above. That is a sure fire way to set the stage for diabetes.
One poptart has 17g of sugar. Does he eat ONE or what is in the package which is two. If two then that is 34g of sugar.
One cup of ice cream on average is 68g of sugar. That is 102g of refined sugar in a day. That is enough sugar for about 10 days for a male in JUST those two items. A male should shoot for around 12 g - 18g or less of refined sugar (depending on factors of height, weight, calories, etc).
This is NOT moderation.
off note: Natural sugar is around 100g to 150 per day depending on if you're male or female.
I know what the OPs post said. And a poptart and some ice cream could very well be moderate for him, depending on his calorie goal, etc.
I'm sorry you're struggling with your food choices to the point that someone else's decisions are negatively impacting you.0 -
One cup of ice cream on average is 68g of sugar. That is 102g of refined sugar in a day. That is enough sugar for about 10 days for a male in JUST those two items. A male should shoot for around 12 g - 18g or less of refined sugar (depending on factors of height, weight, calories, etc).
This is NOT moderation.
off note: Natural sugar is around 100g to 150 per day depending on if you're male or female.
Sources?! I'll post some when I arrive at work in a couple hours that say quite the contrary.0 -
The people who post they eat ice cream daily on the MFP forum do it because they are jerks. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they brag about that. They are rubbing it in the faces of those who struggle to lose. They know that the majority of people here are hurt, are suffering, are overweight, or are obese, uneducated on health and nutrition, are sick, are depressed about their current condition and are wanting to change. Wanting to learn. Some are diabetic. This is a HELP forum. They make sure YOU KNOW, THEY CAN and YOU CAN'T so what is wrong with YOU and how cool are they? It is very immature.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. Why do they think we care? What is the purpose of getting on MFP and saying, "look at my six pack and I eat ice cream every day." It's like me sitting outside of an AA meeting with a beer on a hot day and making slurping noises as I drink it, holding it up to the member saying, "I do this every day, but in moderation and I'm not an alcoholic". I CAN, you can't just making sure you all know. But hey, I do it in moderation and I STILL am not an alcoholic. " Or more in comparison would be to go to an AA forum online and post I drink wine every night with dinner and am not an alcoholic. Just childish! Just cruel!
Lol.
Actually, I think it's more like "you can eat these things in moderation." Because most people can. Does moderation take practice? Yep. Is it more sustainable than planning on cutting out every food that some magazine article told you was bad? I think so.
Also, there are a lot of people on here who aren't addicted to food. They just were lazy about paying attention to how much they were eating. So, your example doesn't apply. Are there some for real addicted people here? Sure. But statistically speaking, they probably aren't the norm.
I wanted to add to that food and alcohol are not good examples here. If someone is truly addicted to food, they are going to have to learn to moderate their choices. Whether they like it or not. You can't live without food obviously. It's fine for an alcoholic to cut out alcohol for the rest of their life, because they don't need it. You can't do that with food. So, once again, moderation for the win.
LOL!
The OP's post said, "I eat a poptart AND ice cream every day. It didn't say I eat one or the other, but both. It didn't say once or twice a week.
That is NOT "in moderation" as you say above. That is a sure fire way to set the stage for diabetes.
One poptart has 17g of sugar. Does he eat ONE or what is in the package which is two. If two then that is 34g of sugar.
One cup of ice cream on average is 68g of sugar. That is 102g of refined sugar in a day. That is enough sugar for about 10 days for a male in JUST those two items. A male should shoot for around 12 g - 18g or less of refined sugar (depending on factors of height, weight, calories, etc).
This is NOT moderation.
off note: Natural sugar is around 100g to 150 per day depending on if you're male or female.
I know what the OPs post said. And a poptart and some ice cream could very well be moderate for him, depending on his calorie goal, etc.
I'm sorry you're struggling with your food choices to the point that someone else's decisions are negatively impacting you.
She is correct, that is less than 20% of my calories for the day @ 660ish.0 -
What the posters of the " I lost weight and ate pop tarts and ice cream " don't tell you is they eat very healthy the rest of the time . Look at there diaries and its a tiny serving of the bad stuff . It's just not as cool to start a thread saying " I eat 95 percent heathy and a small serving of treats "0
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What the posters of the " I lost weight and ate pop tarts and ice cream " don't tell you is they eat very healthy the rest of the time . Look at there diaries and its a tiny serving of the bad stuff . It's just not as cool to start a thread saying " I eat 95 percent heathy and a small serving of treats .
That depends on your definition of tiny serving. I am the OP and I eat a pint of ice cream a night. It is less than 20% of my total daily intake though.0 -
What the posters of the " I lost weight and ate pop tarts and ice cream " don't tell you is they eat very healthy the rest of the time . Look at there diaries and its a tiny serving of the bad stuff . It's just not as cool to start a thread saying " I eat 95 percent heathy and a small serving of treats .
That depends on your definition of tiny serving. I am the OP and I eat a pint of ice cream a night. It is less than 20% of my total daily intake though.
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What the posters of the " I lost weight and ate pop tarts and ice cream " don't tell you is they eat very healthy the rest of the time . Look at there diaries and its a tiny serving of the bad stuff . It's just not as cool to start a thread saying " I eat 95 percent heathy and a small serving of treats .
That depends on your definition of tiny serving. I am the OP and I eat a pint of ice cream a night. It is less than 20% of my total daily intake though.
^^ this
You aren't blowing your whole days calories on a pint of ice cream ...
@ Beachlover - you eat very little junk . I read your diary everyday
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Think I would rather have cookies or brownies with ice cream than pop tarts lol.
Trying to derail the thread?!! Seriously, though, is there anything better than a warm brownie with icecream melting over it?!! Life is far too short to skip brownies - and trying to hit my calorie intake on lettuce and celery would be nigh-on impossible.0 -
What the posters of the " I lost weight and ate pop tarts and ice cream " don't tell you is they eat very healthy the rest of the time . Look at there diaries and its a tiny serving of the bad stuff . It's just not as cool to start a thread saying " I eat 95 percent heathy and a small serving of treats .
That depends on your definition of tiny serving. I am the OP and I eat a pint of ice cream a night. It is less than 20% of my total daily intake though.
^^ this
You aren't blowing your whole days calories on a pint of ice cream ...
@ Beachlover - you eat very little junk . I read your diary everyday
Never claimed to! 0 -
What the posters of the " I lost weight and ate pop tarts and ice cream " don't tell you is they eat very healthy the rest of the time . Look at there diaries and its a tiny serving of the bad stuff . It's just not as cool to start a thread saying " I eat 95 percent heathy and a small serving of treats .
That depends on your definition of tiny serving. I am the OP and I eat a pint of ice cream a night. It is less than 20% of my total daily intake though.
^^ this
You aren't blowing your whole days calories on a pint of ice cream ...
@ Beachlover - you eat very little junk . I read your diary everyday
LOL Cassie - I read your's too ♥. I don't eat a lot of junk, but I am learning to add it back in again. I can over do - easily. But, I refuse to give up completely on things that I have love. Moderation = key.0 -
What the posters of the " I lost weight and ate pop tarts and ice cream " don't tell you is they eat very healthy the rest of the time . Look at there diaries and its a tiny serving of the bad stuff . It's just not as cool to start a thread saying " I eat 95 percent heathy and a small serving of treats .
That depends on your definition of tiny serving. I am the OP and I eat a pint of ice cream a night. It is less than 20% of my total daily intake
^^ I was referring to a few of the female members . They don't eat a pint of ice cream every night . They have a 1/2 cup serving0 -
Think I would rather have cookies or brownies with ice cream than pop tarts lol.
Trying to derail the thread?!! Seriously, though, is there anything better than a warm brownie with icecream melting over it?!! Life is far too short to skip brownies - and trying to hit my calorie intake on lettuce and celery would be nigh-on impossible.
Reported for derailing the thread with something equally delicious! Damn you delicious derailing brownies....0 -
Think I would rather have cookies or brownies with ice cream than pop tarts lol.
Trying to derail the thread?!! Seriously, though, is there anything better than a warm brownie with icecream melting over it?!! Life is far too short to skip brownies - and trying to hit my calorie intake on lettuce and celery would be nigh-on impossible.
Reported for derailing the thread with something equally delicious! Damn you delicious derailing brownies....
Dear God, what would a brownie pop tart a la mode taste like? Yuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm.
ETA: a la mode0 -
What the posters of the " I lost weight and ate pop tarts and ice cream " don't tell you is they eat very healthy the rest of the time . Look at there diaries and its a tiny serving of the bad stuff . It's just not as cool to start a thread saying " I eat 95 percent heathy and a small serving of treats .
That depends on your definition of tiny serving. I am the OP and I eat a pint of ice cream a night. It is less than 20% of my total daily intake
^^ I was referring to a few of the female members . They don't eat a pint of ice cream every night . They have a 1/2 cup serving
but for us that probably is 20% of our daily intake - it's all relative :flowerforyou:0 -
I maintain my original stance that Toaster Strudel is superior, if only for the icing drawings.
I've never seen S'mores Toaster Strudel.
Someone should suggest that...personally, I don't like Pop Tarts. I like off-brand unfrosted and they're hard to find. And Toaster Strudel is crazy yummy!!!
This thread makes me think about brownies for breakfast...yummmmmm...0 -
Empty calories, in casual dietary terminology, are a measure of the digestible energy present in high-energy foods with little nutritional value, typically processed carbohydrates and ethanol (alcohol), and to some extent fats. Also known as a discretionary calorie, an "empty calorie" has the same energy content as any other calorie but lacks many accompanying nutrients such as vitamins, dietary minerals, antioxidants, amino acids, or dietary fiber. [/quote]also this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_calorie[/quote]
Did you just cite Wikipedia as an information source? Even processed foods today are fortified with micronutrients (i.e Poptarts)0
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