Eating Pop Tarts and ice cream daily.
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except it's not garbage.
Except that it clearly is.food is simply fuel.
Not all foods were created equally. Health is not all about calorie content, as I explain to people who are scared to eat avocados.you can live a perfectly healthy life having a pop tart every day.
Sure you can, just like I can live a perfectly healthy life while smoking a few cigarettes every day. Does that mean that quitting smoking isn't a healthier option?
So, what will eating a pop tart every day do to someone with perfectly good health markers and who is at a very healthy body fat%?0 -
again u r right. but some people cant control themselves, that is why there is a site like this. food addiction is real. i just hate the show off on this site. Oh look at me i got a six pack, oh look at me i bench 400lbs. oh look at me i run marathons. just my 2 cents. good luck on ur fitness journey.
u r right. but this site is to help people who have problems eating too much. people who lack self control with food. i like to have a couple of beers after work. would it be responsible for me to post that on an alcoholics wed site. no. we all know about calories in vs. calories out. but people struggle with that. this post is not helping anybody.op, this thread is dangerous to the average person who is struggling with their weight. u run 30 miles a week and lift weights so u can get away with these kind of snacks. the average moderately active person trying to loose weight cant do this. it would be more responsible to post why you are able to eat 800cal snacks daily. Are u just showing off?
This is 100% false. I am currently sedentary (recovering from surgery), and I eat ice cream and other snacks daily also. I fit them into my calorie allotment for the day, and I'm still losing.
The OP's point is that you don't have to demonize food that you enjoy eating to be successful. He didn't say that one should eat junk all day every day. It's not an "all or nothing" thing here.
I say this as someone used to binge and hide junk food in my house that being able to still enjoy the food I used to binge on as part of a reasonably balanced diet instead of an attitude of, "I must never eat chips again" worked. Expecting people who have problems with self control to give up their vices cold turkey is a recipe for complete failure for most folks. It just is not realistic at all.
Self control can and SHOULD be taught and learned. Without actually learning it, success is short-lived anyway.
I am a 45 year old woman who has a desk job, who does no cardio and is a lazy bish outside the gym and cannot bench 400lb - I still eat ice cream every day and pop tarts every now and again and lost all my weight doing that. Your argument is invalid.
How dare you show off what a balanced diet and hard work can achieve
- once you have met your goal you must leave this site forever and not stay to show noobies what can be achieved with a little hard work.
How dare you be a role model to people starting their journey. What a show off!
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Maybe it is semantics - but why is it a "cheat day"? It's like talking about MFP being a place to be on a "diet". To me a "diet" is what you eat. It is not depraving yourself of food, foods you like, and even junk food if it fits your lifestyle. But with it being a "lifestyle" and not a "if you eat above your calories one day you will fail" plan do we not all agree that a "life" is not all wine and roses?
And maybe I have gone too deep. I see people eat healthy all the time. I also see the ones who say, "I swore off bread and cookies." falling off the wagon left and right. I can see having a bad day but to me I reserve cheating for Monopoly and something I can't do on my wife.
All this typing makes me hungry for ice cream and pop tarts.0 -
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except it's not garbage.
Except that it clearly is.food is simply fuel.
Not all foods were created equally. Health is not all about calorie content, as I explain to people who are scared to eat avocados.you can live a perfectly healthy life having a pop tart every day.
Sure you can, just like I can live a perfectly healthy life while smoking a few cigarettes every day. Does that mean that quitting smoking isn't a healthier option?
Are you a reincarnation, too? You seem to be too well spoken to be new here. And, Sara already told you what I would have about cheat days.0 -
"Cheat day" is the term generally used when talking about eating in excess of your normal caloric goal, for various reasons."Cheat day" is the term generally used when talking about eating junk food while attempting to get into shape, but you already know this.
It's "about creating a lifestyle you can reasonably maintain" as you yourself just said, so there is no need to split hairs. We're basically saying the same thing.
The only difference is I don't think every day should be a cheat day.
"Creating a lifestyle you can reasonably maintain" (at least to me) means not becoming orthorexic and obsessing over whether every single thing that goes in my mouth is "clean". It means eating in a way which offers maximal flexibility and minimal useless restrictions/exclusions, within the overall context of a diet which provides adequate (or better) calories and macro/micronutrients.0 -
I didn't read every post in this thread - but I must make a few points:
1. Are pop-tarts junk food?. Yes - of course they are full of empty calories and very little nutrients. I wouldn't recommend pop-tarts to anybody who is just learning how to lose weight via calorie restriction. To start on pop-tarts could easily become a slippery slope. In that sense, the thread can be viewed as dangerous.
2. If on the other hand, you've been losing weight successfully and you're tracking your foods and IIFYM (if it fits your macros) then there is no harm in eating some pop-tarts as long as you're getting your daily nutrients first.
3. Also, if you happen to be a serious weight lifter, the science is out there - pop-tarts are very nearly perfect for recovery. Post-lifting, your body is severely depleted of glycogen and glucose. Rapidly supplying these after a workout by eating pop-tarts is an excellent choice because pop-tarts are simple carbs - essentially glucose. Fruit, however, supplies fructose which is not as good. Ice cream supplies fat which is also not as good. Pop-tarts are perfect for post-lifting.
Lets just keep this all in context.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/post_workout_carbs.htm0 -
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/All-or-Nothing Dieting & Eating Disorder Risk
In 1997, a general physician named Steven Bratman coined the term orthorexia nervosa [21], which he defines as, “an unhealthy obsession with eating healthy food.” It reminds me of the counterproductive dietary perfectionism I’ve seen among many athletes, trainers, and coaches. One of the fundamental pitfalls of dichotomizing foods as good or bad, or clean or dirty, is that it can form a destructive relationship with food. This isn’t just an empty claim; it’s been seen in research. Smith and colleagues found that flexible dieting was associated with the absence of overeating, lower bodyweight, and the absence of depression and anxiety [22]. They also found that a strict all-or-nothing approach to dieting was associated with overeating and increased bodyweight. Similarly, Stewart and colleagues found that rigid dieting was associated with symptoms of an eating disorder, mood disturbances, and anxiety [23]. Flexible dieting was not highly correlated with these qualities. Although these are observational study designs with self-reported data, anyone who spends enough time among fitness buffs knows that these findings are not off the mark.0 -
"Cheat day" is the term generally used when talking about eating in excess of your normal caloric goal, for various reasons."Cheat day" is the term generally used when talking about eating junk food while attempting to get into shape, but you already know this.
It's "about creating a lifestyle you can reasonably maintain" as you yourself just said, so there is no need to split hairs. We're basically saying the same thing.
The only difference is I don't think every day should be a cheat day.
"Creating a lifestyle you can reasonably maintain" (at least to me) means not becoming orthorexic and obsessing over whether every single thing that goes in my mouth is "clean". It means eating in a way which offers maximal flexibility and minimal useless restrictions/exclusions, within the overall context of a diet which provides adequate (or better) calories and macro/micronutrients.
Ahhh...well all I am obsessing about it is freaking Pop Tart at this point.
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except it's not garbage.
Except that it clearly is.
It's damn good fuel for my workouts is what it is. Got a PR on my squats the last time I ate them before a lifting session.0 -
Just for the record.
Red Velvet Pop Tart & Red Velvet Cake Ben & Jerry's ice cream sammich came in at 630 cals.
Pumpkin Pie Pop Tart & Pumpkin Cheesecake Ben & Jerry's ice cream sammy came in at about 660 cals.
Best place to find the limited edition Pop Tarts after they leave the big stores is the dollar stores. They typically have 6-12 months left on their expiration date. Bought 20 boxes of Pumpkin Pie pop tarts Saturday.
Back in a bit, going to lunch to eat a pound of veggies and 1/2 pound of chicken.
Tells work I am leaving early...need to troll the discount stores.
NO kidding!! I must find these tarts!!
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I will report back on their splendor should I be victorious.0 -
I am happy that PopTarts do not tempt me. They're kinda bleh (to me).
But hey - good news about the ice cream!0 -
Has anyone replied to anyone else with "I would eat your pop tart" yet?
With love,
Burt0 -
My favourite are the unfrosted kind but they don't sell those in Canada. :'o(0
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Has anyone replied to anyone else with "I would eat your pop tart" yet?
With love,
Burt
Ha ha, when I first saw your profile name I though it said Butthurt LMAO!0 -
I've been laughing at the posts that weren't serious on this thread. I see some of you have chosen to get wrapped around the axle about it, though. So let me just state my position here since I didn't see anyone use this line of thinking yet.
I don't eat pop tarts or ice cream, but I'll defend to my death your right to eat them!! Long live food liberty! :happy:0 -
3 words: brown sugar cinnamon.
cherry,brown sugar cinnamon,fudge and smores!0 -
Has anyone replied to anyone else with "I would eat your pop tart" yet?
With love,
Burt
"I would eat your pop tart" yet.
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Right...and it's MUCH healthier to net 800 calories a day, arbitrarily exclude entire food groups from one's diet and pop raspberry ketones, green coffee bean extract, african mango or whatever else Dr. Oz is whoring this week, as so many members of MFP do?You can lose weight eating all the junk in the world as long as you burn the calories but it's still garbage that shouldn't be consumed. There are lots of illegal drugs that can help one lose weight too, are those ok to take every day, since weight loss is all that matters?
I understand that some people need cheat days in order to accomplish their goals but every day? To each his own I guess.
No thanks...I'll go for my 80/20 diet, throw in some junk once in a while (moderation. context and dosage.) and enjoy my continuing success without suffering or depriving my body of needed calories/nutrients.
That's a nice Straw Man you just built there.
Who said 800 calories?
Who is Dr. Oz?
How about you address my points instead of creating a false statement to argue against?0 -
Right...and it's MUCH healthier to net 800 calories a day, arbitrarily exclude entire food groups from one's diet and pop raspberry ketones, green coffee bean extract, african mango or whatever else Dr. Oz is whoring this week, as so many members of MFP do?You can lose weight eating all the junk in the world as long as you burn the calories but it's still garbage that shouldn't be consumed. There are lots of illegal drugs that can help one lose weight too, are those ok to take every day, since weight loss is all that matters?
I understand that some people need cheat days in order to accomplish their goals but every day? To each his own I guess.
No thanks...I'll go for my 80/20 diet, throw in some junk once in a while (moderation. context and dosage.) and enjoy my continuing success without suffering or depriving my body of needed calories/nutrients.
That's a nice Straw Man you just built there.
Who said 800 calories?
Who is Dr. Oz?
How about you address my points instead of creating a false statement to argue against?
speaking of false arguments, you've already gone to that well yourself with that silliness equating eating pop tarts and being healthy with smoking and being healthy.0 -
Has anyone replied to anyone else with "I would eat your pop tart" yet?
With love,
Burt
Ha ha, when I first saw your profile name I though it said Butthurt LMAO!
That is a painful stigma that has followed me all of my life.
With love,
Burt0 -
No, a cheat day is when someone eats more that their usual target.
Um, if you say so. I guess you didn't know what I was referring to after all.
A cheat day is the day where people who eat healthy food all week eat their favorite junk foods so they can stay sane and continue their healthy ways. At least that's what the rest of the world calls it.0 -
except it's not garbage.
Except that it clearly is.
Are you implying that I have a mental disorder?0 -
No, a cheat day is when someone eats more that their usual target.
Um, if you say so. I guess you didn't know what I was referring to after all.
A cheat day is the day where people who eat healthy food all week eat their favourite junk foods so they can stay sane and continue their healthy ways. At least that's what the rest of the world calls it.
I don't - a cheat day to me is where you go over your calorie allowance. Mind you I allow anything any day as long as it fits my macros. That's how I stay sane.0 -
except it's not garbage.
Except that it clearly is.food is simply fuel.
Not all foods were created equally. Health is not all about calorie content, as I explain to people who are scared to eat avocados.you can live a perfectly healthy life having a pop tart every day.
Sure you can, just like I can live a perfectly healthy life while smoking a few cigarettes every day. Does that mean that quitting smoking isn't a healthier option?
So, what will eating a pop tart every day do to someone with perfectly good health markers and who is at a very healthy body fat%?
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Nothing terrible. I'm saying that it's not a healthy option, as the food itself is basically junk. I'm not saying it's a deadly food or cannot be consumed.0 -
No, a cheat day is when someone eats more that their usual target.
Um, if you say so. I guess you didn't know what I was referring to after all.
A cheat day is the day where people who eat healthy food all week eat their favourite junk foods so they can stay sane and continue their healthy ways. At least that's what the rest of the world calls it.
I don't - a cheat day to me is where you go over your calorie allowance. Mind you I allow anything any day as long as it fits my macros. That's how I stay sane.
Same here. I include some goodies everyday so cheating for me would be going over on calories.0 -
except it's not garbage.
Except that it clearly is.food is simply fuel.
Not all foods were created equally. Health is not all about calorie content, as I explain to people who are scared to eat avocados.you can live a perfectly healthy life having a pop tart every day.
Sure you can, just like I can live a perfectly healthy life while smoking a few cigarettes every day. Does that mean that quitting smoking isn't a healthier option?
So, what will eating a pop tart every day do to someone with perfectly good health markers and who is at a very healthy body fat%?
Nothing terrible. I'm saying that it's not a healthy option, as the food itself is basically junk. I'm not saying it's a deadly food or cannot be consumed.
What is unhealthy about it? What does "basically junk" mean? You are saying it is bad and not bad at the same time. Very confusing.0 -
A cheat day is the day where people who eat healthy food all week eat their favorite junk foods so they can stay sane and continue their healthy ways. At least that's what the rest of the world calls it.
Welcome to MFP. We're so glad to have your contributions to our site. Could you please tone it down a bit?
With love,
Burt0 -
Whatever you do, DO NOT EAT THE POP TART INTO THE SHAPE OF A GUN!!!
Serious consequences for playing cowboys and indians with pastry. Serious.
And good for you OP
this ! OMG! I really did lol,I heard about that and then my hubby warned me not to do it0 -
food is simply fuel.
except it's not garbage.
Except that it clearly is.
Not all foods were created equally. Health is not all about calorie content, as I explain to people who are scared to eat avocados.
you can live a perfectly healthy life having a pop tart every day.
Sure you can, just like I can live a perfectly healthy life while smoking a few cigarettes every day. Does that mean that quitting smoking isn't a healthier option?
So, what will eating a pop tart every day do to someone with perfectly good health markers and who is at a very healthy body fat%?
Nothing terrible. I'm saying that it's not a healthy option, as the food itself is basically junk. I'm not saying it's a deadly food or cannot be consumed.
Well if nothing bad is going to happen, what is the issue? Its fuel.0
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