How young is too young?

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  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    If you're asking then you're already going to have age issues.

    Funny.

    I think it's society with the age issues.

    mate... seriously it sounds like youve made your mind up... do you have anything to prove to an internet community? if you're gonna do it then do it!?

    Because I feel discriminated against!!

    that's probably because you are lol

    Well at least you're the ONE person who can admit.

    I appreciate that if nothing else.
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    And Taunto, before you say it, I DO know about your culture, and I am entitled to an opinion just as much as you are.

    I have noticed you posting controversial posts in an attempt to get a rise out of people many times on here, and now that you have, you don't seem to like it. In all honesty, what did you expect people's reactions to be to your post? You have to understand our way of living just as much as you expect us to understand yours.

    Where am I from. Please tell me and also tell me how you know my culture and how does that entitle you to an opinion?
  • mimiwin
    mimiwin Posts: 42 Member
    I TOTALLY AGREE !!! tHE WAY YOU ARE SAYING IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT YOU AS A PERSON !!! I do not care if you are from India or anywhere else this comment is disgusting and I find you are using the fact that you know languages and you are possibly more educated ( or not ) than some people to validate your opinions when really all you do is repeat what you have been told without even challenging any of it... It is not because something is part of a culture ( any culture ) that it makes it right !!!

    Have you ever heard of infibulation ( same thing for lapidation ) ??? It is a common practice in some countries in the world... because it has been transmitted as a part of their "culture"... It is an inhuman practice justified under the name of culture or we could say habits, superstition... whatever we want to call it. You just use this " cultural belief " to satisfy and justify your own agenda !! ( I am not sure it actually can be considered being part of the indian culture or if it is only part of the beliefs of some indian people and non indian people too )

    Your belief belong to you, do not try to justify your belief by cowardly associating it to a culture !

    If we have a brain it is to use it... I am not perfect but I always try to think by myself about the information I am presented with.. We should challenge what we are taught and what we learn to believe as fact just because... so please if your only reason to justify an older man having sex with a 13 years old is the fact that it is part of your " culture " ... well I don't have much more to say.
    Last thing is, I believe there are a lot of Indian people out there that would not share this belief " We have a strict policy of old enough to bleed, old enough to breed " even if some probably would.

    To me you are simply a cheap but a disgusting one too !!
  • RhineDHP
    RhineDHP Posts: 1,025 Member
    going by your pics you're from india? i think given the current movement for fairer treatment of women in your country after a woman had her insides removed with a scaffold pole after being raped by 6 men, you might want to have a look at what values you're holding to lol...
    sometimes cultures need to change.

    agreed
    including our own.

    the recent news in america, with more sympathy for rapist jocks than for their victim, would illustrate the point. marital rape was legal in the uk right up until 1991. i don't think there's a culture on the planet that shouldn't be striving to improve.

    I very much agree with this. A friend of mine showed me all these Twitter posts and FB posts by people, actually blaming the girl for the rape, that she was a "slut" and "why was she drinking in the first place." Yeah, because you should be punished for making a stupid choice by way of rape. Even worse was those females who got arrested for harassing and threatening her. Disgusting.
  • foxro
    foxro Posts: 793 Member
    Here's a new twist - If you are old enough to lay down your life for you country, then why should age in relationships matter. Faulty logic ? it's been used for other arguments, just sayin
  • Dauntlessness
    Dauntlessness Posts: 1,489 Member
    No. She is not mature enough no matter how she acts. I don't know how you would even think that this is okay. I am 33 and when I see kids in their teens they look sooo young to me. Almost like kids in high school look like they are in middle school.

    I truly believe after 25 years old age stops mattering. If she were 21 Id still be skeptical but more accepting. She cant drink for 4 years. You are at very different stages in your life. You are in the stage of your life when you start settling down, she should be focused on college and finding herself. You'd be doing a disadvantage to her by dating her. The last thing she needs is someone holding her back. Stay away because this is creepy
  • rabies
    rabies Posts: 62
    And Taunto, before you say it, I DO know about your culture, and I am entitled to an opinion just as much as you are.

    I have noticed you posting controversial posts in an attempt to get a rise out of people many times on here, and now that you have, you don't seem to like it. In all honesty, what did you expect people's reactions to be to your post? You have to understand our way of living just as much as you expect us to understand yours.

    Where am I from. Please tell me and also tell me how you know my culture and how does that entitle you to an opinion?

    Personally I have no clue at all about your culture. I'm still entitled to the opinion that sex with children is wrong no matter what dark-ages culture it occurs in. In some parts of the world public stoning of girls, for committing the crime of getting raped, is part of the culture. That doesn't make it right.

    Your culture is wrong dude, and so is the OP.
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    going by your pics you're from india? i think given the current movement for fairer treatment of women in your country after a woman had her insides removed with a scaffold pole after being raped by 6 men, you might want to have a look at what values you're holding to lol...
    sometimes cultures need to change.

    agreed
    including our own.

    the recent news in america, with more sympathy for rapist jocks than for their victim, would illustrate the point. marital rape was legal in the uk right up until 1991. i don't think there's a culture on the planet that shouldn't be striving to improve.

    I very much agree with this. A friend of mine showed me all these Twitter posts and FB posts by people, actually blaming the girl for the rape, that she was a "slut" and "why was she drinking in the first place." Yeah, because you should be punished for making a stupid choice by way of rape. Even worse was those females who got arrested for harassing and threatening her. Disgusting.
    and how impressive it is that we can post our disgust without being accused of being anti american.

    if you love your country and your culture then you want it to be the best it can be, and admitting it's flaws is part of that.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    No. She is not mature enough no matter how she acts. I don't know how you would even think that this is okay. I am 33 and when I see kids in their teens they look sooo young to me. Almost like kids in high school look like they are in middle school.

    I truly believe after 25 years old age stops mattering. If she were 21 Id still be skeptical but more accepting. She cant drink for 4 years. You are at very different stages in your life. You are in the stage of your life when you start settling down, she should be focused on college and finding herself. You'd be doing a disadvantage to her by dating her. The last thing she needs is someone holding her back. Stay away because this is creepy

    Again with the creepy . . .

    But she doesn't even look young! I never would've approached her if I thought she was 17!

    I thought she was 22 or 21.

    It was a school day for Pete's sake!!
  • vtmoon
    vtmoon Posts: 3,436 Member
    Still an assumption that you presented as fact. He could've not been in the US since his he was 8 years old and grew up some where that didn't hold those cultural values.

    Any assumption could be reasonable if you tailored the bits of information you have to fit that assumption.

    Yes, with the scenario you presented that would indeed be a case of the possibility of not knowing certain values of the country in which you were raised. I wouldn't call it tailored. Just merely a logical conclusion from a sentence he wrote. Sorry if that offended you in any way, which it seems to have.
    Funfact did you know you can get married in the US at 16 if your family is okay with it? Not bad for such an uptight country.

    Yes good sir I do, in fact, know variations of this law are present in the states. Just see how often that actually happens.

    (hint: rarely)

    It feels like you're trying to point out loopholes of any kind to circumvent the general US stigma of an age gap such as the one between the OP and the 17 year old girl he wants to pursue a relationship with. I did say that there are exceptions, as there are in any country, to one holding a difference in view of a vast majority. Sometimes its for the better, but in my opinion, this isn't one of those times.

    Not really offended at all pretty lady, just playing devil advocate to the situation to give some different perspective.

    *points @ Chit-Chat, Fun, and Games*
  • lauren3101
    lauren3101 Posts: 1,853 Member
    going by your pics you're from india? i think given the current movement for fairer treatment of women in your country after a woman had her insides removed with a scaffold pole after being raped by 6 men, you might want to have a look at what values you're holding to lol...
    sometimes cultures need to change.

    I agree. A culture where a women magically becomes an adult at the age of 18 needs to change...

    That's a ridiculous comparison. No, a woman doesn't 'magically' become an adult at the age of 18, but there has to be a specified age somewhere. If we moved it to 25, she wouldn't 'magically' become an adult then, either. Same as a girl doesn't 'magically' become old enough or mature enough to get married and have children the second she starts her first period, eh?
  • bluefox9er
    bluefox9er Posts: 2,917 Member
    I'm from Asia. We have a strict policy of old enough to bleed, old enough to breed

    tragic thing is, you thougt yourself ubercool for saying this disgusting remark, didn't you?
  • JessicaP327
    JessicaP327 Posts: 64 Member
    Well, according to my ex who was 33 and cheating on me with one of his 17 year old students and some random 19 year old he met in a supermarket, he would say, "GO FOR IT!"

    I, on the other hand, would say don't.
  • super_J73
    super_J73 Posts: 257 Member
    I have a daughter, she would never be dating a 29 year old if she was 17. End of story.
  • Lieann22
    Lieann22 Posts: 67 Member
    No. She is not mature enough no matter how she acts. I don't know how you would even think that this is okay. I am 33 and when I see kids in their teens they look sooo young to me. Almost like kids in high school look like they are in middle school.

    I truly believe after 25 years old age stops mattering. If she were 21 Id still be skeptical but more accepting. She cant drink for 4 years. You are at very different stages in your life. You are in the stage of your life when you start settling down, she should be focused on college and finding herself. You'd be doing a disadvantage to her by dating her. The last thing she needs is someone holding her back. Stay away because this is creepy

    Again with the creepy . . .

    But she doesn't even look young! I never would've approached her if I thought she was 17!

    I thought she was 22 or 21.

    It was a school day for Pete's sake!!


    My previous post exactly ..... you don't want to be THAT guy
  • MM_1982
    MM_1982 Posts: 374
    Just do it. Don't listen to the haters on here. They're just being BITTER.
  • rabies
    rabies Posts: 62
    No. She is not mature enough no matter how she acts. I don't know how you would even think that this is okay. I am 33 and when I see kids in their teens they look sooo young to me. Almost like kids in high school look like they are in middle school.

    I truly believe after 25 years old age stops mattering. If she were 21 Id still be skeptical but more accepting. She cant drink for 4 years. You are at very different stages in your life. You are in the stage of your life when you start settling down, she should be focused on college and finding herself. You'd be doing a disadvantage to her by dating her. The last thing she needs is someone holding her back. Stay away because this is creepy

    Again with the creepy . . .

    But she doesn't even look young! I never would've approached her if I thought she was 17!

    I thought she was 22 or 21.

    It was a school day for Pete's sake!!

    Well, you were wrong, obviously. Now that you know she's actually 17 you need to back off.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    Just do it. Don't listen to the haters on here. They're just being BITTER.

    Thanks man!

    It's nice to meet someone that isn't so close minded.
  • Daisychain65
    Daisychain65 Posts: 161 Member
    As the mother of a seventeen year old...NO
    No way, No how, not happening!
  • Lieann22
    Lieann22 Posts: 67 Member
    Just do it. Don't listen to the haters on here. They're just being BITTER.

    Thanks man!

    It's nice to meet someone that isn't so close minded.

    not closed minded - you asked for opinion - you got it - what you do is your shout
  • ingeh
    ingeh Posts: 513 Member
    well Im not sure. I was 17 when I met my partner who was 27 (10 yrs 6 months exactly older then me) and weve been together 5 yers and have 2 boys (2yrs, 5 months) We have our ups and downs but thats because of the sleepless nights with the new baby but wev had no issues due to age.
    But Id probably tell any daughter I might have in the future to be careful being with someone that much older. My OH doesnt act 32 and Im more mature then him so we even eachother out lol
  • MrsSWW
    MrsSWW Posts: 1,585 Member
    If you had a 17 year old sister and one of your mates started seeing her, would you be happy?
  • glovepuppet
    glovepuppet Posts: 1,710 Member
    Just do it. Don't listen to the haters on here. They're just being BITTER.

    Thanks man!

    It's nice to meet someone that isn't so close minded.
    now you just sound like you posted because you wanted everyone to pat you on the head, assure you you're a good guy and tell you to go for it.

    i had an open mind about it when this thread started but it's narrowing rapidly!
  • KrysGettinFit
    KrysGettinFit Posts: 131 Member
    I would say definitely not. Even if it is legal, doesn't make it right. She may seem mature, but she is still only a 17 year old girl.
  • taunto
    taunto Posts: 6,420 Member
    Just do it. Don't listen to the haters on here. They're just being BITTER.

    Thanks man!

    It's nice to meet someone that isn't so close minded.
    now you just sound like you posted because you wanted everyone to pat you on the head, assure you you're a good guy and tell you to go for it.

    i had an open mind about it when this thread started but it's narrowing rapidly!

    lol you had a narrow mind from the begining. Even before you came to this thread. Anyone talking about low and high class is a narrow minded ignorant person. Shame on you
  • MM_1982
    MM_1982 Posts: 374
    Let's see.. people who are against this:
    -older women
    -married women
    -women who don't get any play

    Who's for it.
    -Every decent man who has a pulse!
  • foxro
    foxro Posts: 793 Member
    So you can join the military at 17/18 and die in a war but you can't date someone older ???
  • Lieann22
    Lieann22 Posts: 67 Member
    Let's see.. people who are against this:
    -older women
    -married women
    -women who don't get any play

    Who's for it.
    -Every decent man who has a pulse!


    haha love it ..... this post needs a bit of humour
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    Seventeen is a very mature age. Most girls know what they're doing by that age. Sounds like she clearly has you wrapped around her finger, but be warned: the young ones can be manipulative.

    Please be careful with your heart and tread lightly. When the lacrosse captain at her high school decides he likes her again, she's going to dump you. I care about your feelings. I really do. If you think you can handle the inevitable rejection that is likely to follow, then I say go for it. If you think it's going to leave you crying in your ale, then maybe let this one go.
  • babydiego87
    babydiego87 Posts: 905 Member
    No. She is not mature enough no matter how she acts. I don't know how you would even think that this is okay. I am 33 and when I see kids in their teens they look sooo young to me. Almost like kids in high school look like they are in middle school.

    I truly believe after 25 years old age stops mattering. If she were 21 Id still be skeptical but more accepting. She cant drink for 4 years. You are at very different stages in your life. You are in the stage of your life when you start settling down, she should be focused on college and finding herself. You'd be doing a disadvantage to her by dating her. The last thing she needs is someone holding her back. Stay away because this is creepy

    Again with the creepy . . .

    But she doesn't even look young! I never would've approached her if I thought she was 17!

    I thought she was 22 or 21.

    It was a school day for Pete's sake!!
    I find it telling that you think at the age of 29, you have anything in common with a teenager, let alone the ability to hold a conversation with one. Nuff said.