For those of you that invite others to objectify you:
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The problem with this thread is that a woman who clearly has no interest in being objectified then gets met with calls along the lines of "you need to get laid more" or "I'll take one for the team and bang her" all the while being egged on by a crowd and this seems to be tacitly seen as acceptable behaviour.
It's amazing to see, isn't it?
People who are denying the existence of rape culture or a culture of objectification as a problem are here, en masse, dismissing a woman's idea..... by treating her as a throwaway sex object.
Can't believe it took this many pages to get to "rape culture."
Knew it was coming.
It's like Hitler. Eventually, someone's going to make the connection.
So there you go boys and girls. Every one of you out there that thought you were just having a little harmless fun with your bang/date/marry silliness...YOU are part of the problem.
Rape Culture.
To me the phrase dumbs down men and makes the assumption that we behave one way, all the time, under all circumstances no matter what. Judge a woman (who asked to be by the way) in a thread and obviously you must do this all the time right? Obviously as a man you apply this thinking to every single female interaction you have. There's no way you could possibly be a multi-layered individual capable of behaving differently based on the situation you're in.
for the record... I see more objectification of men on this site sometimes than I do of men objectifying women. The women here are horny and aggressive, and while the men may enjoy it, it does dilute the "all men are scum" tag line.
I have many men on my friends list, and they are respectful, fun, kind and supportive. It's sad that men get painted with this "oh your urges are too great for you to handle" paintbrush - as if they aren't strong enough to control themselves. What poppycock.
Guys - I'm sorry that you are stereotyped so negatively.0 -
WTF? People are denying the existence of "rape culture" now? I thought it was a given like homophobia and racism are bad.
Feminism defend men actually.
People that think women (ok less then 15% of rapes are on man and perpetuated by man anyway in most cases so I'll generalized for the sake of clarity) deserved to be raped for ANY reasons or that man can't always control themselves are the one against men here!
Feminist saying that man are not only animal so there is no reason ever to justify a rape by saying stuff like "but she was passed out with a short skirt so I just did it". You are a grown man able of reflexion and you know consent is always necessary but not only that: what kind of human can actually enjoy a lifeless body... beyond me
.... :noway: where the in the royal chuff did that come from?!?!?!
i think the trouble is drug culrure.... cos there are definately some people smoking or huffing some strong stuff here....0 -
I must very much agree with OP. People do alot of things on the internet that they wouldn't do in real life. My friends and I have great conversations and fun, but never do we sit around talking about how "bangable" the other is. Also, in real life, most people wouldn't go to a meeting to be told that they are an 8/10 or bangable for an ego boost. While I understand wanting someone to say that you are hott, I do believe that this kind of thinking would lead to needing some kind of approval from others in the real world.
I would say that men aren't the only ones to blame for this- that women are equally accountable. Men take alot of flack for the things that women do.
I know that its for fun and that most people don't think too deep into it.... but I do believe that it has greater effects than we realize.0 -
i'm going to snootily look down my nose at anyone who finds it a boost.
i never got how/why it would be an ego boost. in those threads people would compliment a three legged baboon, so the compliments mean nothing.I don't take it too seriously. Sometimes its good for an ego boost, but honestly, its not going to make a difference one way or the other with me, because I'm confident enough in my own skin and thoughts that what anyone else says doesn't really phase me.
for some, it can be is what I am saying. If someone goes into a date/marry/bang/ONS/WB/etc thread and someone says yes or WB or 10/10, I'm sure it gives them a boost.... meh. Again, none of you really exist. You only live in my computer to entertain me during work, lol. :laugh:
...even if they don't exist.
i do not. i am far too english to stoop to understanding lewd innuendo.
i never got how/why it would be an ego boost. in those threads people would compliment a three legged baboon, so the compliments mean nothing.I don't take it too seriously. Sometimes its good for an ego boost, but honestly, its not going to make a difference one way or the other with me, because I'm confident enough in my own skin and thoughts that what anyone else says doesn't really phase me.
I've been called a 3 legged baboon before, if ya know what I mean
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The problem with this thread is that a woman who clearly has no interest in being objectified then gets met with calls along the lines of "you need to get laid more" or "I'll take one for the team and bang her" all the while being egged on by a crowd and this seems to be tacitly seen as acceptable behaviour.
It's amazing to see, isn't it?
People who are denying the existence of rape culture or a culture of objectification as a problem are here, en masse, dismissing a woman's idea..... by treating her as a throwaway sex object.
Can't believe it took this many pages to get to "rape culture."
Knew it was coming.
It's like Hitler. Eventually, someone's going to make the connection.
So there you go boys and girls. Every one of you out there that thought you were just having a little harmless fun with your bang/date/marry silliness...YOU are part of the problem.
Rape Culture.
To me the phrase dumbs down men and makes the assumption that we behave one way, all the time, under all circumstances no matter what. Judge a woman (who asked to be by the way) in a thread and obviously you must do this all the time right? Obviously as a man you apply this thinking to every single female interaction you have. There's no way you could possibly be a multi-layered individual capable of behaving differently based on the situation you're in.
for the record... I see more objectification of men on this site sometimes than I do of men objectifying women. The women here are horny and aggressive, and while the men may enjoy it, it does dilute the "all men are scum" tag line.
I have many men on my friends list, and they are respectful, fun, kind and supportive. It's sad that men get painted with this "oh your urges are too great for you to handle" paintbrush - as if they aren't strong enough to control themselves. What poppycock.
Guys - I'm sorry that you are stereotyped so negatively.
you have... nice.... jeans?0 -
Wow....Rape culture???? :noway:
In the words of Peter Jones "I'm out...."
(Because you sucked all the fun out of it anyways, you know who you are)
Hehehe sucked hehe
I laughed too....0 -
What do you guys think?
you really don't want to know
Do you like it when people tell you you're a certain type of person?
Heck yes. I like to hear what others view from my pictures and words
Do you like it when people rate you?
again, heck yes.
Do you think others like it when you rate them?
they wouldn't ask otherwise, would they?
I think > I am an adult, I can post in those threads if I want or not. I think that if I don't feel like being an object, I can pass on through and not post. Nobody is making me do a thing.
I think that after 38 years on this Earth, after 3 kids, and all the hell I have been through, once in a while I like to hear someone tell me I am hot.
I don't normally go up to random strangers on the street and ask them to rate me. But if you gave me a shot or two, I may.0 -
WTF? People are denying the existence of "rape culture" now? I thought it was a given like homophobia and racism are bad.
Not only are they denying the existence of rape culture, they're doing it while responding to a woman who doesn't want people to decide whether she's bangable based on appearance... by saying they're willing to bang her.
This is seriously a thing that is happening. Men are responding to a woman who has a problem with being objectified not just by purposefully objectifying her, but by purposefully objectifying her while denying that objectification of women is a problem.
There is hope! Thank you!
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i never got how/why it would be an ego boost. in those threads people would compliment a three legged baboon, so the compliments mean nothing.I don't take it too seriously. Sometimes its good for an ego boost, but honestly, its not going to make a difference one way or the other with me, because I'm confident enough in my own skin and thoughts that what anyone else says doesn't really phase me.
I've been called a 3 legged baboon before, if ya know what I mean
It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive. Men don't walk around with their penises popping out of their pants, with every woman walking by judging them on that basis.
Imagine if you were expected to dress that way. Seriously. Think about the ramifications. Men's pants were all super tight, with cuts in the fabric that showed parts of your penis. Everyone looked at that before they looked at your face. You walk into a job interview and it's the first thing the interviewer sees. Everything about you is judged on the basis of how your penis looks.
Think it's not a problem? It is.0 -
My goal is to be eye candy for as many women as possible.
Working out pretty well. :P0 -
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It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive. Men don't walk around with their penises popping out of their pants, with every woman walking by judging them on that basis.
Imagine if you were expected to dress that way. Seriously. Think about the ramifications. Men's pants were all super tight, with cuts in the fabric that showed parts of your penis. Everyone looked at that before they looked at your face. You walk into a job interview and it's the first thing the interviewer sees. Everything about you is judged on the basis of how your penis looks.
Think it's not a problem? It is.
stop smoking drugs mmmmmmmmk?0 -
thats amazing.0
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Also, being an adult =/= being rated or talking about sex. 10 year olds can do this.0
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i'm going to snootily look down my nose at anyone who finds it a boost.
for some, it can be is what I am saying. If someone goes into a date/marry/bang/ONS/WB/etc thread and someone says yes or WB or 10/10, I'm sure it gives them a boost.... meh. Again, none of you really exist. You only live in my computer to entertain me during work, lol. :laugh:
...even if they don't exist.
meh, its another form of entertainment. If they get a high from it, they do. Who am I to judge them?0 -
I don't know what I should eat for dinner...can you tell me what I should eat?
homemade pasta:bigsmile:0 -
It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive.
Yet the sharp increase in the rise of men suffering from eating disorders suggests that the increased pressure to look a certain way - a facet of being objectified - indicates that men are not immune to the same pressures.0 -
It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive. Men don't walk around with their penises popping out of their pants, with every woman walking by judging them on that basis.
Imagine if you were expected to dress that way. Seriously. Think about the ramifications. Men's pants were all super tight, with cuts in the fabric that showed parts of your penis. Everyone looked at that before they looked at your face. You walk into a job interview and it's the first thing the interviewer sees. Everything about you is judged on the basis of how your penis looks.
Think it's not a problem? It is.
stop smoking drugs mmmmmmmmk?
You, sir, are a scholar and have clearly spent a lot of time thinking about how people who aren't attractive white males get along in society.0 -
judging is an art form.
meh, its another form of entertainment. If they get a high from it, they do. Who am I to judge them?i'm going to snootily look down my nose at anyone who finds it a boost.
...even if they don't exist.
i look down my nose at people who wear crocs too.0 -
i never got how/why it would be an ego boost. in those threads people would compliment a three legged baboon, so the compliments mean nothing.I don't take it too seriously. Sometimes its good for an ego boost, but honestly, its not going to make a difference one way or the other with me, because I'm confident enough in my own skin and thoughts that what anyone else says doesn't really phase me.
I've been called a 3 legged baboon before, if ya know what I mean
It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive. Men don't walk around with their penises popping out of their pants, with every woman walking by judging them on that basis.
Imagine if you were expected to dress that way. Seriously. Think about the ramifications. Men's pants were all super tight, with cuts in the fabric that showed parts of your penis. Everyone looked at that before they looked at your face. You walk into a job interview and it's the first thing the interviewer sees. Everything about you is judged on the basis of how your penis looks.
Think it's not a problem? It is.
Makes me think of a recent case in Canada where a man was arguing that women only gym was a discrimination against him:
The judges gave really interesting insight: To be discriminate about on the basis of sex/religion/race/etc. you have to be in a historically discriminated against group and prove that the discrimination has prejudicial effect. If no other gym would have been available to this men, he might have had a case, but since closer to his house was another gym, he couldn't prove that this specific discrimination had any prejudicial effect on his life.
Women are an historically discriminated against group.
And I wish that people would stop saying: "Yeah but I know of a guy who was discriminate because he was a man" and thinking that just mean we should stop to care that discrimination against women exist? Couldn't we come to the conclusion that yes discrimination exist everywhere and for everyone for many reasons but when that discrimination is prejudicial and systematic it is worth fighting it?0 -
i never got how/why it would be an ego boost. in those threads people would compliment a three legged baboon, so the compliments mean nothing.I don't take it too seriously. Sometimes its good for an ego boost, but honestly, its not going to make a difference one way or the other with me, because I'm confident enough in my own skin and thoughts that what anyone else says doesn't really phase me.
I've been called a 3 legged baboon before, if ya know what I mean
It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive. Men don't walk around with their penises popping out of their pants, with every woman walking by judging them on that basis.
Imagine if you were expected to dress that way. Seriously. Think about the ramifications. Men's pants were all super tight, with cuts in the fabric that showed parts of your penis. Everyone looked at that before they looked at your face. You walk into a job interview and it's the first thing the interviewer sees. Everything about you is judged on the basis of how your penis looks.
Think it's not a problem? It is.
Makes me think of a recent case in Canada where a man was arguing that women only gym was a discrimination against him:
The judges gave really interesting insight: To be discriminate about on the basis of sex/religion/race/etc. you have to be in a historically discriminated against group and prove that the discrimination has prejudicial effect. If no other gym would have been available to this men, he might have had a case, but since closer to his house was another gym, he couldn't prove that this specific discrimination had any prejudicial effect on his life.
Women are an historically discriminated against group.
And I wish that people would stop saying: "Yeah but I know of a guy who was discriminate because he was a man" and thinking that just mean we should stop to care that discrimination against women exist? Couldn't we come to the conclusion that yes discrimination exist everywhere and for everyone for many reasons but when that discrimination is prejudicial and systematic it is worth fighting it?
On that topic, here's a post I posted in a similar thread a month or two ago:Now imagine that every day someone tries to prevent you from using the squat rack because they think you're not meant to. Imagine it happened at every gym. Imagine that society as a whole was stacked against you ever using a barbell.
Wouldn't that get old pretty quick?
That's the type of daily experience minorities and women face.0 -
judging is an art form.
meh, its another form of entertainment. If they get a high from it, they do. Who am I to judge them?i'm going to snootily look down my nose at anyone who finds it a boost.
...even if they don't exist.
i look down my nose at people who wear crocs too.
gah! Not Crocs! Those things should all be burned. I'm no fashionista, but they are hideous. In my opinion.0 -
it is also, in part, the degree of threat. or perceived threat.It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive.
Yet the sharp increase in the rise of men suffering from eating disorders suggests that the increased pressure to look a certain way - a facet of being objectified - indicates that men are not immune to the same pressures.
a guy walking past a leering woman might feel uncomfortable.
a woman walking past a leering man might be thinking about the headlines, the police advice, her escape route and whether her attire would cause people to blame her if something happened.0 -
My goal is to be eye candy for as many women as possible.
and doing a fine job ;00 -
it is also, in part, the degree of threat. or perceived threat.It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive.
Yet the sharp increase in the rise of men suffering from eating disorders suggests that the increased pressure to look a certain way - a facet of being objectified - indicates that men are not immune to the same pressures.
a guy walking past a leering woman might feel uncomfortable.
a woman walking past a leering man might be thinking about the headlines, the police advice, her escape route and whether her attire would cause people to blame her if something happened.
This site needs a like button.0 -
[/quote]It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive. Men don't walk around with their penises popping out of their pants, with every woman walking by judging them on that basis.
Imagine if you were expected to dress that way. Seriously. Think about the ramifications. Men's pants were all super tight, with cuts in the fabric that showed parts of your penis. Everyone looked at that before they looked at your face. You walk into a job interview and it's the first thing the interviewer sees. Everything about you is judged on the basis of how your penis looks.
Think it's not a problem? It is.
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These are the ramblings of a mental person! If you are a lady and you don't like people looking at your fun bags, they actually make things called "clothes”. When you go for an interview and you don't want your male interviewer to objectify you, you can wear a "suit" with a "shirt". Your breasts are not forced to be out all the time like some puppet show! No one is EXPECTED to dress in a certain way? I dress in whatever I want to dress in, unless we have taken a time machine to the 1940's and I am unaware.
So stop this drivel and say something that makes sense0 -
it is also, in part, the degree of threat. or perceived threat.It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive.
Yet the sharp increase in the rise of men suffering from eating disorders suggests that the increased pressure to look a certain way - a facet of being objectified - indicates that men are not immune to the same pressures.
a guy walking past a leering woman might feel uncomfortable.
a woman walking past a leering man might be thinking about the headlines, the police advice, her escape route and whether her attire would cause people to blame her if something happened.
Yes, the power dynamic is different and power, who has it and the ability for it to be used or misused as the case may be is at the heart of this issue.0 -
It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive. Men don't walk around with their penises popping out of their pants, with every woman walking by judging them on that basis.
Imagine if you were expected to dress that way. Seriously. Think about the ramifications. Men's pants were all super tight, with cuts in the fabric that showed parts of your penis. Everyone looked at that before they looked at your face. You walk into a job interview and it's the first thing the interviewer sees. Everything about you is judged on the basis of how your penis looks.
Think it's not a problem? It is.
stop smoking drugs mmmmmmmmk?
You, sir, are a scholar and have clearly spent a lot of time thinking about how people who aren't attractive white males get along in society.
lol... taken as sarcasm you're saying i'm an attractive white male, so... thank you... but you have no idea what i think about, or for that matter anyone you assume is a budding rapist because they oblige in complimenting women on an internet forum
the fact you think of yourself as better because you probably lack the game to pull off complimenting women doesn't mean others can't indulge in this.
and i can't stress this enough, really seriously and truly... it's a GAME as in: one after the other people say date, bang, etc etc etc as a bit of harmless fun, the same as flirting with someone, the same as banter between men and women
the fact that you're so wrapped up in your own opinion of some made up culture of lustful men attacking women you clearly haven't noticed that in order for a man to rate or bang, date, marry etc etc a woman on that thread there has to be a woman rating a man in which the success of that thread has achieved or it would all be men saying they wouldn't bang each other
ergo: women are partaking in this activity of their free will so please... please stuff your over protective opinion of how women are defenseless little bunnies that need to be saved from the beast that is man... where the sun doesn't shine, you're making a fool of yourself0 -
***Warning - Look away if you are easily offended***
These are the ramblings of a mental person! If you are a lady and you don't like people looking at your fun bags, they actually make things called "clothes”. When you go for an interview and you don't want your male interviewer to objectify you, you can wear a "suit" with a "shirt". Your breasts are not forced to be out all the time like some puppet show! No one is EXPECTED to dress in a certain way? I dress in whatever I want to dress in, unless we have taken a time machine to the 1940's and I am unaware.
So stop this drivel and say something that makes sense
well said...0 -
It's fun for men to be objectified because it's not so pervasive. Men don't walk around with their penises popping out of their pants, with every woman walking by judging them on that basis.
Imagine if you were expected to dress that way. Seriously. Think about the ramifications. Men's pants were all super tight, with cuts in the fabric that showed parts of your penis. Everyone looked at that before they looked at your face. You walk into a job interview and it's the first thing the interviewer sees. Everything about you is judged on the basis of how your penis looks.
Think it's not a problem? It is.
stop smoking drugs mmmmmmmmk?
You, sir, are a scholar and have clearly spent a lot of time thinking about how people who aren't attractive white males get along in society.
lol... taken as sarcasm you're saying i'm an attractive white male, so... thank you... but you have no idea what i think about, or for that matter anyone you assume is a budding rapist because they oblige in complimenting women on an internet forum
the fact you think of yourself as better because you probably lack the game to pull off complimenting women doesn't mean others can't indulge in this.
and i can't stress this enough, really seriously and truly... it's a GAME as in: one after the other people say date, bang, etc etc etc as a bit of harmless fun, the same as flirting with someone, the same as banter between men and women
the fact that you're so wrapped up in your own opinion of some made up culture of lustful men attacking women you clearly haven't noticed that in order for a man to rate or bang, date, marry etc etc a woman on that thread there has to be a woman rating a man in which the success of that thread has achieved or it would all be men saying they wouldn't bang each other
ergo: women are partaking in this activity of their free will so please... please stuff your over protective opinion of how women are defenseless little bunnies that need to be saved from the beast that is man... where the sun doesn't shine, you're making a fool of yourself
I expect that in 50 years, this comment will look as out of place as Don Draper would today.0
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