Milk
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caucasians are only an exception because we've evolved to continue producing lactase over thousands of years.
very simple.
sounds like a big win for us. because I love cheese, yogurt, ice cream, etc0 -
This is a very thought provoking thread. This thought just came to mind.
Milk is a complete meal...for a baby. Why as humans are we drinking it in addition to eating full solid meals too?
It seems like doubling up for no reason. Like drinking Ensure or other common tube feedings.
A contributor to obesity? Likely.
Babies need lots of nutrition to grow and develop, and milk covers those bases.
So for an athlete who wants to grow, and needs ample nutrition, why wouldn't milk be a good addition to their diet.
Everytime I've seen someone arguing against people drinking milk, while saying it isn't natural, no other animals do it, etc they are:
A. A vegan who has been loaded with a bunch of propaganda
B. A crosffitter who buys into some paleo nonsense
Very true about athletes but most of us are not athletes. As we get up a little in age, many people have families and have different goals. I'm in this group. Now I just want to be presentable.
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You - A HUMAN - have to GIVE it to them!!
"Giving" and "conditioning" are pretty separate concepts.
You've claimed each is necessary.
So maybe just say "OK, I made a mistake. You don't need to condition them. You just need to present them with the opportunity."
they are not separate concepts. go learn something.
edit: I'm on your side for ****s sake and you still act like a petulant child.
Leaving a plate of milk on the porch = conditioning squirrels to drink milk.
Got it.
:laugh:
BTW, I'm not on any "side" of this discussion. The only "side" I'm on is that of reality and intellectual honesty. The fact that you see "sides" here says a lot.0 -
This is a very thought provoking thread. This thought just came to mind.
Milk is a complete meal...for a baby. Why as humans are we drinking it in addition to eating full solid meals too?
It seems like doubling up for no reason. Like drinking Ensure or other common tube feedings.
A contributor to obesity? Likely.
Yes dont drink orange juice if you eat an orange that would be wayyyyyyyy to much vitamin C, OMG I am rolling my eyes so hard and laughing so hard at some ppl on this thread I will be sore tomorrow!
Mothers milk is the only complete meal for a baby because of their digestive system and the enzymes and other things in the mothers milk or formula that help make their digestive system stronger to prepare them for whole foods. You do not give a baby milk until they are around the age of 1. And by then they have already been introduced to solid foods. If you are only giving your baby milk as nourishment you need to have your child taken from you. Your statement while funny as all get up is way off base and totally untrue0 -
People didn't drink milk until the early 1900's when refrigeration became available.
I really hope this is a troll post and not stupidity. Cause if it is... We are all doomed.0 -
People didn't drink milk until the early 1900's when refrigeration became available.
No, they drank milk before then, it was just freshly squeezed.
It wasn't available to the masses I should have said.0 -
This is a very thought provoking thread. This thought just came to mind.
Milk is a complete meal...for a baby. Why as humans are we drinking it in addition to eating full solid meals too?
It seems like doubling up for no reason. Like drinking Ensure or other common tube feedings.
A contributor to obesity? Likely.
The protein in milk has great bioavailability and it tastes good. Good reasons to drink it.
And no, too much food in general and not moving enough is the contributor to obesity, not a single food group. Also it's irrelevant for people tracking their food in any event.0 -
People didn't drink milk until the early 1900's when refrigeration became available.
No, they drank milk before then, it was just freshly squeezed.
It wasn't available to the masses I should have said.
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Very true about athletes but most of us are not athletes. As we get up a little in age, many people have families and have different goals. I'm in this group. Now I just want to be presentable.
I'm sorry. I guess what I should have said, anyone who wants to be bigger/stronger.
Milk is a super affordable source of protein/fats/carbs and works great for people who aren't trying to be skinny, and well it's worked well for me even when cutting.
Obesity and milk consumption aren't linked as suggested. The increase in consumption of corn based products correlates well with the increase in obesity in America.0 -
People didn't drink milk until the early 1900's when refrigeration became available.
I really hope this is a troll post and not stupidity. Cause if it is... We are all doomed.
I am betting all my chips on...DOOMED0 -
This is a very thought provoking thread. This thought just came to mind.
Milk is a complete meal...for a baby. Why as humans are we drinking it in addition to eating full solid meals too?
It seems like doubling up for no reason. Like drinking Ensure or other common tube feedings.
A contributor to obesity? Likely.
contribution to obesity is when people started eating more than they move
lack of education on proper diets.
I drink milk all the time. It is one of my favorite things to drink.
If i did become lactose intolerant I will add a lactase pill when I do consume dairy.
too many people in here want to find something to blame on why they are/were overweight0 -
People didn't drink milk until the early 1900's when refrigeration became available.
No, they drank milk before then, it was just freshly squeezed.
It wasn't available to the masses I should have said.
And still wrong.0 -
Skim all the way- I can tolerate 1% but 2% and whole just feel like im eating my milk to me!0
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This is a very thought provoking thread. This thought just came to mind.
Milk is a complete meal...for a baby. Why as humans are we drinking it in addition to eating full solid meals too?
It seems like doubling up for no reason. Like drinking Ensure or other common tube feedings.
A contributor to obesity? Likely.
Yes dont drink orange juice if you eat an orange that would be wayyyyyyyy to much vitamin C, OMG I am rolling my eyes so hard and laughing so hard at some ppl on this thread I will be sore tomorrow!
Mothers milk is the only complete meal for a baby because of their digestive system and the enzymes and other things in the mothers milk or formula that help make their digestive system stronger to prepare them for whole foods. You do not give a baby milk until they are around the age of 1. And by then they have already been introduced to solid foods. If you are only giving your baby milk as nourishment you need to have your child taken from you. Your statement while funny as all get up is way off base and totally untrue
Gee, I'm sorry. I meant a baby cow. After all, we are talking about cow's milk. Yikes.0 -
People didn't drink milk until the early 1900's when refrigeration became available.
No, they drank milk before then, it was just freshly squeezed.
It wasn't available to the masses I should have said.
stop
if it wasnt available to the masses then people would not have adapted to producing more lactase past birth
the information you are saying is wrong and you need to stop typing a bunch of random conclusion that comes to your mind0 -
"There's only one thing I hate more than lying: skim milk, which is water that's lying about being milk." - Ron Swanson0
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I'd try to keep drinking human breast milk, since that's what we were designed to drink...but they don't let me into the maternity ward anymore...0
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You - A HUMAN - have to GIVE it to them!!
"Giving" and "conditioning" are pretty separate concepts.
You've claimed each is necessary.
So maybe just say "OK, I made a mistake. You don't need to condition them. You just need to present them with the opportunity."
they are not separate concepts. go learn something.
edit: I'm on your side for ****s sake and you still act like a petulant child.
Leaving a plate of milk on the porch = conditioning squirrels to drink milk.
Got it.
:laugh:
BTW, I'm not on any "side" of this discussion. The only "side" I'm on is that of reality and intellectual honesty. The fact that you see "sides" here says a lot.
be quiet.0 -
Better check your facts on that one. Yikes.People didn't drink milk until the early 1900's when refrigeration became available.0 -
I just try not to drink milk.
same here since i am lactose intollerant but sometimes drink some skim milk really have to look for that almond milk never heard about it before joining here but it sounds fantastic0 -
Given that most of "the masses" were rural before the industrial revolution (see the first link I posted, above, among others), that's an interesting claim. Source for your information, please?People didn't drink milk until the early 1900's when refrigeration became available.
No, they drank milk before then, it was just freshly squeezed.
It wasn't available to the masses I should have said.0 -
Im confused about something.. All of you who say we shouldnt drink another animals milk.. Are you saying then that you would drink the milk from a lactating human? o_O
I tried my sister's breast milk when she was breastfeeding. But then I'm a freak like that, I'll try anything once.
It was too sweet and watery for my taste. I prefer 2% or whole cow's milk.0 -
I used to drink 2% since I preferred the taste...but then I discovered plain almond milk, which is the nectar of the gods....and that's what I drink now. 0
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I like 1% the most. Tastes much better than skim, but not as strong as 2%. By far, my favourite.0
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wanna know something really cool? aged cheeses like parmeggiano reggiano are lactose free. so you can skip the "dairy" and still have cheese and cultured milk products like kefir
dunno. thought that was neat since I've been dairy free for about a year and a half. I've recently begun re-incorporating these naturally lactose-free dairy foods0 -
DONT DRINK IT!! Milk and all dairy products are not all that good for you. I found that dairy was the main contributor to insulin resistance and inflamation that I had. Once I eliminated dairy I felt much better and my joints all felt awesome. I had such bad inflamation that I didnt even know it, I had grown so accustomed to it that I thought it was normal. Within 3 days of giving up dairy I noticed a signifcant improvement. I also always had ringing in the ears and that went away too.0
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wanna know something really cool? aged cheeses like parmeggiano reggiano are lactose free. so you can skip the "dairy" and still have cheese and cultured milk products like kefir
dunno. thought that was neat since I've been dairy free for about a year and a half. I've recently begun re-incorporating these naturally lactose-free dairy foods
screw that
i would rather go for some fresh mozzarela0 -
I usually take my milk in cultured form (yogurt, farmer's cheese, etc.) because I am a member of the intelligentsia. And then it is anywhere from fat-free to whole, depending on my calorie needs for the day.
:laugh: It's the milk that helped you get that membership I just know it! Do you see what happens when you dont drink it? You get no membership! :laugh:
I am a card-carrying member of the Cowmilkist Party, too.0 -
Hi! I normally drink almond milk as I only use it for cereal, but my kids have one small glass of milk each day. Sorry to sound stupid, but what is CLA?Been consuming organic 2%, mostly for the extra CLA for the last 5 yrs or so switching to organic goat milk periodically. Preference should be the key reason imo. Not a fan of 0 fat, nor would I serve it to anyone because of the milk powders used for taste and viscosity,
FYI: CLA is a trans fat, and all trans fats are bad for you0 -
wanna know something really cool? aged cheeses like parmeggiano reggiano are lactose free. so you can skip the "dairy" and still have cheese and cultured milk products like kefir
dunno. thought that was neat since I've been dairy free for about a year and a half. I've recently begun re-incorporating these naturally lactose-free dairy foods
Cheddar is beddar :laugh:0
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