Outraged!

b7bbs

How outraged are you at plus sized shops that do not offer sizes below a 12?

There are far less stores that are only targeted to plus sizes than there are stores that target non-plus sizes.

Even American Eagel that yes, has plus sizes, like size 18 jeans, but they are not carried in the store, and only online. Never the other way around.

MelsAuntie

I have never purchased anything from them, ever, if that helps.

ElaineRN100

I never shopped their stores anyway - way overpriced stuff that is made in China or another 3rd world country.

CmGoode

Many stores don't sell plus sizes. That's just how it is. Yes, he sounds like an *kitten* hat, but many many people do. Just saying.

CmGoode

If you're over 25 you shouldn't be wearing A&F or Holister clothing anyway.

^^^^THIS

BarbieAS

Here's my beef with this whole thing.

First, let me start by saying that this guy can do whatever he wants with his stores...just like everyone has the right to do whatever they want with the money. Capitalism!

So, that being said, he will never get any of my money. Now, I'm 32 years old. Even if I did fit into those clothes, I wouldn't want to shop there. I don't care if he carries my size, and I don't care if he thinks I'm not worthy of his clothes because I'm fat. I'm a grown up and I'm emotionally mature enough to not give a rat's behind about what some dude who looks like Gary Busey went bobbing for apples in a tub of bees (not mine but it slayed me when I saw it) thinks about my body.

HOWEVER, this store isn't marketing to me anyway. It's marketing to CHILDREN. Children who are impressionable, developing, trying desperately to fit in, emotionally immature, and already far too prone to eating disorders, depression, bullying and suicide. I am positively disgusted that a grown man is so entrenched in this "business philosophy" that he finds it perfectly acceptable to publicly state that a large portion of CHILDREN are not worthy to wear his clothing. They are not good enough, simply because of the way they look.

So, when my son and daughter are old enough to care where their clothes come from, they will not be wearing anything from Abercrombie and Fitch, at least not purchased with MY money. It's part of my personal parenting mission to teach my children that, while health is important, they AND their peers are so very much more than their physical characteristics. It breaks my heart to think of any children feeling excluded because some douche canoe says that they are not "cool and good-looking" enough to wear the clothing that his company sells. I wouldn't want my kids to feel badly because of their looks, and if they DID fit that "cool and good-looking" mold, I would not be supportive of them perpetuating that attitude and image that they are somehow better than anyone else simply because of their looks.

BurtHuttz

and this different how? Marketing is marketing-people want to see attractive people-get over it

Hi SassyCalyGirl,

First, let me compliment you on your profile picture featuring a woman on a toilet with her panties down; I'm trying to say, to start out by saying: "hey, don't get me wrong, I like you."

Second, among other things, the guy said this: "In every school there are the cool and popular kids, and then there are the not-so-cool kids. Candidly, we go after the cool kids. We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don't belong [in our clothes], and they can't belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely."

It's one thing to "market to cool kids." It's another to say that unpopular or unattractive kids do not belong in our clothes; that some people deserve to be excluded - because they're socially awkward? Because they haven't grown into their features? Because they have bad skin because their hormones are going ape? Because their parents are poor? Etc.

He's not marketing to attractive people, he's marketing to cliquish people. He's attempting to create mystique and demand for his clothing by appealing to just about the worst in teenagers. He's condoning it, fomenting it, and trying to shroud it in a sort of hip mystique, when really he's only attempting to manipulate children.

And so I conclude this reply with reference to my opening statement, "and I think that's the only thing I like about you."

rabblerabble

I intend to start replacing some of my clothing over the next few months (as my pants in particular which used to be tight but are becoming quite baggy) but even after I've lost my weight I want to get rid of and become one of the 'beautiful thin' people, I wouldn't walk in the doors of such an establishment which is so unfriendly to people that don't fit their profile.

SassyCalyGirl

and this different how? Marketing is marketing-people want to see attractive people-get over it

Hi SassyCalyGirl,

First, let me compliment you on your profile picture featuring a woman on a toilet with her panties down; I'm trying to say, to start out by saying: "hey, don't get me wrong, I like you."

Second, among other things, the guy said this: "In every school there are the cool and popular kids, and then there are the not-so-cool kids. Candidly, we go after the cool kids. We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don't belong [in our clothes], and they can't belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely."

It's one thing to "market to cool kids." It's another to say that unpopular or unattractive kids do not belong in our clothes; that some people deserve to be excluded - because they're socially awkward? Because they haven't grown into their features? Because they have bad skin because their hormones are going ape? Because their parents are poor? Etc.

He's not marketing to attractive people, he's marketing to cliquish people. He's attempting to create mystique and demand for his clothing by appealing to just about the worst in teenagers. He's condoning it, fomenting it, and trying to shroud it in a sort of hip mystique, when really he's only attempting to manipulate children.

And so I conclude this reply with reference to my opening statement, "and I think that's the only thing I like about you."

I never said it was RIGHT it just IS! I don't concern myself with things I can't change. I do however have a choice-I can either support their views and shop there or Not.

in regards to "liking" me-I'm crushed! NOT

CorvusCorax77

<=========A&F shirt : damn I guess I cant shop there anymore. I am too fat.

it only applies to their women's clothes.

Sexism in action! FTW!

CorvusCorax77

re: the A&F fiasco...

Y'all are giving them more publicity by sharing this story. I haven't thought about A&F ever in my life as much as I have since this "story" broke. Seems like free advertising to me.

KatieHall77

@RoadsterGirl:

I think the point isn't that they don't carry the sizes it's just you know, saying, there's only two types of people at school-- cool and uncool and you can't be popular or well liked if you're not a certain size.
Even if it's a good marketing it's disgusting.

I completely agree. The guy is dumb, and the clothing is crap quality, ridiculously overpriced and clearly for wanna-be hipsters. If he wants a following of hipster idiots, then he can say shallow stuff and brand that image, and the people who want desperately to be accepted will shop there and take it as affirmation that they are "cool".... Whatever that means.

BurtHuttz

I never said it was RIGHT it just IS! I don't concern myself with things I can't change. I do however have a choice-I can either support their views and shop there or Not.

in regards to "liking" me-I'm crushed! NOT

postrockandcats

if this was already posted, my apologies. I'm not digging through 10 pages!