Outraged!

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  • carissar7
    carissar7 Posts: 183 Member
    The guy's an ugly douche, but this doesn't bother me one bit. It's HIS COMPANY, he can do or say whatever the f*** he wants. Don't like it? Don't shop there. I agree with everyone else saying that Lane Bryant only sells plus-sized clothing. Big + Tall only sells clothing for larger men. I agree his attitude and approach could have been explained better, but that's not my problem. He's doing nothing wrong.

    I work in a cosmetics store that primarily focuses on high-end makeup. It's in your job description to have nice makeup on at all times and feel comfortable applying it on other people. Every brand or company has an "image", an image of a certain consumer they want to target. Where I work, it's your responsibility to represent the 'brand' by looking chic and trendy and glamorous every day. That means hair, nails, and makeup done because that is what sells. They want these types of people to shop their store. If you don't look the part, nobody is going to want to buy your products.

    Abercrombie + Fitch wants thin, slim, and preppy people to shop their stores. As part of that, they only hire THIN, SLIM and PREPPY people to work there. That's it. Do I agree with his 'cool' vs 'uncool' comments? No. But I won't go and walk into a Lululemon and complain that their ATHLETIC sports clothes only go up to a size 12. Or walk into Hot Topic store and complain that all they sell is band t-shirts and gothic looking pants with chains and skulls and crossbones on them. I just won't shop there! PROBLEM SOLVED!
  • Ericav05
    Ericav05 Posts: 17 Member
    How outraged are you at plus sized shops that do not offer sizes below a 12?

    I was going to post something like this as well... I don't shop at A&F anyway, but stores like Fashion Bug and the like have basically been doing the same thing for years.
  • HannahJDiaz25
    HannahJDiaz25 Posts: 329 Member
    Look at this crap everyone.


    Abercrombie and Fitch has decided that anyone over a size 10 jean isn’t sexy enough for their clothing line, and doesn’t want them shopping in their stores and sullying their clothes. They decided to only hire good looking people so that only good looking people will come into their store.

    “It’s almost everything. That’s why we hire good-looking people in our stores. Because good-looking people attract other good-looking people, and we want to market to cool, good-looking people. We don’t market to anyone other than that,”

    That is an actual quote from their CEO Mike Jeffries.

    it's a private marketplace, he can sell and market to whoever he wants.

    Are you mad that The Children's Place only sells childrens clothes?

    What about the Foundry that caters to the big and tall man? Should regular joes's be ticked they can't shop there?

    The list of designers and brands that refuse to cater or even include sizes over 12 is staggering.

    YAY This^^^^
  • deedee85
    deedee85 Posts: 28 Member
    who cares? its a private company, they can make their own decisions. this didnt affect you before today, why are you letting it affect you now?

    I agree. If they choose to ignore a good portion of the population then so be it. They obviously do pretty well if they're still in business yet I don't see people wearing their clothing.

    I second this - who gives a crap? Certainly not I. Unless you work there and are being fired for not being the right size, this shouldn't effect you. Everyone is going to do something you don't like. If you complain about it, life passes you by. Private company means they can do whatever they want.
    I third that if u don't like it don't
    Give them your money. Simple as that
  • dixiewhiskey
    dixiewhiskey Posts: 3,333 Member
    You know what I think is more "outrageous"?

    The fact that more and more stores are going "plus-sized" because of society as a whole becoming more and more overweight. When I couldn't find a pair of jeans that fit me at my favorite clothing store it was my wake up call...

    They now carry that size and label it three sizes below what it's supposed to be.

    This.

    I don't know how I missed this post but TRUE

    I can agree with that. My wake up call was similar...they carried my size, but I had jumped 3 sizes in the span of a few months. Many tears were shed that day!

    Probably the best wakeup call one could have.
  • dixiewhiskey
    dixiewhiskey Posts: 3,333 Member
    The guy's an ugly douche, but this doesn't bother me one bit. It's HIS COMPANY, he can do or say whatever the f*** he wants. Don't like it? Don't shop there. I agree with everyone else saying that Lane Bryant only sells plus-sized clothing. Big + Tall only sells clothing for larger men. I agree his attitude and approach could have been explained better, but that's not my problem. He's doing nothing wrong.

    I work in a cosmetics store that primarily focuses on high-end makeup. It's in your job description to have nice makeup on at all times and feel comfortable applying it on other people. Every brand or company has an "image", an image of a certain consumer they want to target. Where I work, it's your responsibility to represent the 'brand' by looking chic and trendy and glamorous every day. That means hair, nails, and makeup done because that is what sells. They want these types of people to shop their store. If you don't look the part, nobody is going to want to buy your products.

    Abercrombie + Fitch wants thin, slim, and preppy people to shop their stores. As part of that, they only hire THIN, SLIM and PREPPY people to work there. That's it. Do I agree with his 'cool' vs 'uncool' comments? No. But I won't go and walk into a Lululemon and complain that their ATHLETIC sports clothes only go up to a size 12. Or walk into Hot Topic store and complain that all they sell is band t-shirts and gothic looking pants with chains and skulls and crossbones on them. I just won't shop there! PROBLEM SOLVED!

    TRUE
  • dzarello
    dzarello Posts: 119 Member
    WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH "FITNESS AND EXERCISE"? :huh:
  • AllanMisner
    AllanMisner Posts: 4,140 Member
    If you're over 25 you shouldn't be wearing A&F or Holister clothing anyway.
  • 1223345
    1223345 Posts: 1,386 Member
    Why do I care what he does or who he hires or who he markets to? Why would this keep anyone awake at night? Simply take your money elsewhere. No outrage necessary.
  • RoseTears143
    RoseTears143 Posts: 1,121 Member
    You know what I think is more "outrageous"?

    The fact that more and more stores are going "plus-sized" because of society as a whole becoming more and more overweight. When I couldn't find a pair of jeans that fit me at my favorite clothing store it was my wake up call...

    They now carry that size and label it three sizes below what it's supposed to be.

    This.

    I don't know how I missed this post but TRUE

    I agree :drinker:
  • Deipneus
    Deipneus Posts: 1,854 Member
    If you're over 25 you shouldn't be wearing A&F or Holister clothing anyway.
    Double Outrage!:huh:
  • nvpixie
    nvpixie Posts: 483 Member
    I shop at thrift stores Goodwill industries and ESPECIALLY Salvation Army stores -- where I go, they do ALL clothing designer included... only $1 jeans, jackets, coats anything and everything. - old clothing materials is usually better than new clothing materials -- as an added bonus, as I lose weight, I donate back and buy more. Thrift Shop song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes

    I love thrift stores. My favorite shopping ♥
  • longtimeterp
    longtimeterp Posts: 614 Member
    Can't read this entire thread ,but i'm outraged that ANYONE OVER 20 thinks it's okay to shop at Abercrombie! And Holister...don't get me started on the 40yr olds who rock that alllll the time!
  • Prplhead
    Prplhead Posts: 82
    I just think that guy's a jerk.
  • SaraBrown12
    SaraBrown12 Posts: 277 Member
    The brand is clearly shyte if only "skinny" people can look good in them. The guy sounds like a grade A a*s* hole and he has done his beloved brand a lot of damage for being a thoughtless wobble gob.
  • FussyFruitbat
    FussyFruitbat Posts: 110 Member
    My 14 year old read this and told me that she won't shop there ever again. She told me "If mom can't shop with me then i don't want to shop there"

    Kids never cease to amaze me

    Your kid rocks. I know I'll never be buying anything from them either.
  • etoiles_argentees
    etoiles_argentees Posts: 2,827 Member
    Old news, this crap was argued about 6/7 years ago.
  • NavyKnightAh13
    NavyKnightAh13 Posts: 1,394 Member
    Meh......personally I couldn't afford it as a kid, so now as a 24 year old, why am i going to go and pay an outlandish price for a pair of jeans or shirt? :huh:

    Also, yes we know he is exclusionary......but he is also entitled to his opinion....no matter how stupid it might sound. I don't shop at their store, so it doesn't hurt me any. :ohwell:
  • SassyCalyGirl
    SassyCalyGirl Posts: 1,932 Member
    and this different how? Marketing is marketing-people want to see attractive people-get over it
  • _SusieQ_
    _SusieQ_ Posts: 2,964 Member
    I'm sorry, but it's his business and he can run it any way he likes.

    Different stores market to different people.
    My niece loves shopping at Hot Topic. Frankly it makes this 40 something old broad feel like a poser to go in there.

    Saks caters to people with more money than me.

    Lane Bryant only sells clothes size 14 and above.

    Could he have worded his statement better? Sure. But I guarantee he sees a boost in sales, because bad publicity is just as good for business.

    I don't get why overweight people (and yes, I'm overweight) get so up in arms when others in society express a distaste in obesity. It's not like this is a new concept folks.
  • kellijauch
    kellijauch Posts: 379 Member
    This is the dumbest thing they could possibly do. First of all, way to insult almost every adult who now will never shop at your store, or let their kids. Second of all, I remember when Tommy Hilfiger made a remark about only wanting certain people to wear his clothes, and it almost killed his clothing line (what a jerk). Let's all just hope they go out of business. Their clothes suck anyways.
  • sizzle74
    sizzle74 Posts: 858 Member
    I can't shop at Lane Bryant. The nerve!
  • How outraged are you at plus sized shops that do not offer sizes below a 12?

    I was thinking this! Some stores cater for smaller sizes some for bigger. The bigger stores talk about cutting for 'real women with real curves' which I think is offensive to say a thin woman isn't a real woman. And Abercrombie and Fitch clearly cut for thin people, although I would ask the A&B CEO how he has lumped together thin-ness with attractiveness (so often not the case.

    Point is, whether you're big, small, petite or tall there's always going to be a shop that doesn't cater for your size.
  • 1brokegal44
    1brokegal44 Posts: 562 Member
    My 14 year old read this and told me that she won't shop there ever again. She told me "If mom can't shop with me then i don't want to shop there"

    Kids never cease to amaze me

    Your kid rocks. I know I'll never be buying anything from them either.
    My 14 y/o daughter had a similar reaction--not because I couldn't shop there, but you get the idea. I'm sure there are lots of teeny-bopper shops out there that use these marketing tactics. We were just surprised that one actually came out and said it.
  • bumblebums
    bumblebums Posts: 2,181 Member
    Didn't he say this in 2006? Why is all this outrage bubbling up now?

    Besides, I would save my outrage for some of the other things this company has done, such as that "Two Wongs will make it white" t-shirt.
  • cheryl3660
    cheryl3660 Posts: 182 Member
    Even superficial people need a place to shop.

    LOL!
  • FrenchMob
    FrenchMob Posts: 1,167 Member
    How outraged are you at plus sized shops that do not offer sizes below a 12?

    Nicely done.
  • RCMPWannaBe
    RCMPWannaBe Posts: 84 Member
    How outraged are you at plus sized shops that do not offer sizes below a 12?

    Just think how many stores market to plus sizes, and over size 12. Not a lot - meanwhile, nearly every store carries from 0-12. Just sayin'.
  • GreenChile3
    GreenChile3 Posts: 65
    dont shop there, problem solved!
  • Christinamarie77
    Christinamarie77 Posts: 50 Member
    Look at this crap everyone.


    Abercrombie and Fitch has decided that anyone over a size 10 jean isn’t sexy enough for their clothing line, and doesn’t want them shopping in their stores and sullying their clothes. They decided to only hire good looking people so that only good looking people will come into their store.

    “It’s almost everything. That’s why we hire good-looking people in our stores. Because good-looking people attract other good-looking people, and we want to market to cool, good-looking people. We don’t market to anyone other than that,”

    That is an actual quote from their CEO Mike Jeffries.

    it's a private marketplace, he can sell and market to whoever he wants.

    Are you mad that The Children's Place only sells childrens clothes?

    What about the Foundry that caters to the big and tall man? Should regular joes's be ticked they can't shop there?

    The list of designers and brands that refuse to cater or even include sizes over 12 is staggering.

    What gets me is he point blank says he won't HIRE anyone overweight or not-attractive. He wouldn't even be able to work there. their sizes run 2 sizes smaller than they actually are and are DEF geared towards 13 to 18 year old twigs....let them have at it...such a waste of money.

    I'm just glad the parent company who owns them, also owns A & E and Hollister and doesn't have idiots heading those up.

    No publicity is bad publicity tho, so this right here just adds to the hype unfortunately.