A fat girl who likes being fat?1?!?
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I am not here to tell you what to do with your body, but I will speak to my own experience.
Is dieting a feminist action? Not always. The diet/fashion/etc ethos can be degrading and damaging to women. Bodily pressures are profound, and I think you're right to work against that.
Is working for a healthy body a feminist action? YES. 'Our Bodies, Ourselves' is a foundational feminist text for a reason. You say your body is a political statement (whose isn't?), I say my body is a political tool, a vehicle for my political self. If I'm going to tear down the patriarchy, I'll need strength, stamina, and an unshakeable confidence in my own abilities.
The fact is, that for me a 300 pound body could not affect change. I was too tired, my head hurt, I had a stomach ache. I needed a nap. I'm only 35 pounds down, but it's only taken 35 pounds to feel amazing, and be amazed by what my body is capable of doing, that it can walk run lift play.
Fat or not, **** the patriarchy, be strong and healthy.0 -
Why would somebody want to be heavy? I'm heavy and i'm doing everything in my power to change it. I hate being heavy. I don't understand why someone would want and enjoy being heavy and unhealthy.
Exactly.
No, not exactly. Is believing that you have intrinsic value, outside of your weight, really something you're arguing against? She obviously is experiencing some physical discomfort that is prompting her to make some changes. Why does she need to hate herself on top of that?0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
But it is not for YOU to call anyone out for giving their opinion on this matter.0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
The only reason I replied to this post was because I was surprised at how encouraging people were of being severely overweight, while being underweight gets blasted on this site all the time. Why the difference?0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
But it is not for YOU to call anyone out for giving their opinion on this matter.
Just like you interjecting yourself at this juncture?0 -
I read the entire thread, and it simply looks like the OP sought out and received drama. It's just another day on the interwebz.0
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OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
The only reason I replied to this post was because I was surprised at how encouraging people were of being severely overweight, while being underweight gets blasted on this site all the time. Why the difference?
That's absolutely right! If the OP had come on here saying, I'm severely underweight and I don't care, I love myself...how many would have said.."Uh no." and screamed pro-ana? Yet, someone comes on here severely overweight and says that and it's all high fives, kudos, and ignore the haters?
Sorry, what was that about people being fat biased again?0 -
Why would somebody want to be heavy? I'm heavy and i'm doing everything in my power to change it. I hate being heavy. I don't understand why someone would want and enjoy being heavy and unhealthy.
Exactly.
No, not exactly. Is believing that you have intrinsic value, outside of your weight, really something you're arguing against? She obviously is experiencing some physical discomfort that is prompting her to make some changes. Why does she need to hate herself on top of that?
Who said she has to hate herself? It's possible to hate being overweight without hating yourself. I'm glad she's confident and all and wants to change.0 -
Why would somebody want to be heavy? I'm heavy and i'm doing everything in my power to change it. I hate being heavy. I don't understand why someone would want and enjoy being heavy and unhealthy.
Exactly.
No, not exactly. Is believing that you have intrinsic value, outside of your weight, really something you're arguing against? She obviously is experiencing some physical discomfort that is prompting her to make some changes. Why does she need to hate herself on top of that?
You are very presumptuous. I am incredibly happy that the OP loves herself the way she is. That is awesome and I love it.
However, there are major health risks when you are very overweight, and THAT is what she should be concerned with above and beyond her appearance. No one is telling her to hate herself or that her worth is detemined by her weight.0 -
Scanning through a few of the comments here, it's obvious that this site has a large number of people that think numbers are more important than a healthy lifestyle. I would love to have someone as positive as you as a mfp friend.
how could someone who is over 200 pounds overweight have a healthy lifestyle????0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
But it is not for YOU to call anyone out for giving their opinion on this matter.
Just like you interjecting yourself at this juncture?
Hooray!! I -think- you may have understood the point!!! Good for you!! :flowerforyou:0 -
Anything I put in this post would be so heavily censored its not worth my typing. I do think you're in the wrong place for positive support though.0
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OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
The only reason I replied to this post was because I was surprised at how encouraging people were of being severely overweight, while being underweight gets blasted on this site all the time. Why the difference?
I didn't say you offered you opinion of her body, but was responding specifically to "I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight".
The people encouraging her were basically saying that it's fine to be motivated by feeling better physically and not being thin or weighing some random weight. That's actually HEALTHY.0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
But it is not for YOU to call anyone out for giving their opinion on this matter.
Just like you interjecting yourself at this juncture?
Hooray!! I -think- you may have understood the point!!! Good for you!! :flowerforyou:
I think you should probably keep your flower.0 -
come on yeah all the op has as much right to be here as any one else. she has goals and she not here telling everyone to eat so yeah cute her a break i've seen worse the girls starving them selfs or taking laxatives i don't see any one making a big deal about that. like i said its her body.
where's the love
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I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that anyone LIKES being morbidly obese. Surely there's a deeper issue going on that needs to be addressed0
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Scanning through a few of the comments here, it's obvious that this site has a large number of people that think numbers are more important than a healthy lifestyle. I would love to have someone as positive as you as a mfp friend.
how could someone who is over 200 pounds overweight have a healthy lifestyle????
So, are you sitting there with a list of "typical things people say when discriminating against obese people?" when you respond? It's sad and hilarious.0 -
Why would somebody want to be heavy? I'm heavy and i'm doing everything in my power to change it. I hate being heavy. I don't understand why someone would want and enjoy being heavy and unhealthy.
yeah, I don't understand it either.0 -
Anything I put in this post would be so heavily censored its not worth my typing. I do think you're in the wrong place for positive support though.
And yet she's received offerings of sincere & positive support aplenty. So seems to me she may very well be in the *right* place (if she decides so).0 -
I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe that anyone LIKES being morbidly obese. Surely there's a deeper issue going on that needs to be addressed
Yes, everyone needs a good dose of self loathing to be healthy. What's she thinking?0 -
come on yeah all the op has as much right to be here as any one else. she has goals and she not here telling everyone to eat so yeah cute her a break i've seen worse the girls starving them selfs or taking laxatives i don't see any one making a big deal about that. like i said its her body.
where's the love
That's not what this is about. Things would be just as bad if the OP were happy about being 5'9" and 95 pounds. I mean come on.0 -
Why would somebody want to be heavy? I'm heavy and i'm doing everything in my power to change it. I hate being heavy. I don't understand why someone would want and enjoy being heavy and unhealthy.
Exactly.
No, not exactly. Is believing that you have intrinsic value, outside of your weight, really something you're arguing against? She obviously is experiencing some physical discomfort that is prompting her to make some changes. Why does she need to hate herself on top of that?0 -
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Everyone should just start Hula Hooping.0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
The only reason I replied to this post was because I was surprised at how encouraging people were of being severely overweight, while being underweight gets blasted on this site all the time. Why the difference?
That's absolutely right! If the OP had come on here saying, I'm severely underweight and I don't care, I love myself...how many would have said.."Uh no." and screamed pro-ana? Yet, someone comes on here severely overweight and says that and it's all high fives, kudos, and ignore the haters?
Sorry, what was that about people being fat biased again?
If you came here and said "I am severely underweight and I don't care -- I love myself and am going to make steps to improve how I feel physically" I don't think anyone would be coming at you with pitchfolks.0 -
Why would somebody want to be heavy? I'm heavy and i'm doing everything in my power to change it. I hate being heavy. I don't understand why someone would want and enjoy being heavy and unhealthy.
yeah, I don't understand it either.0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
The only reason I replied to this post was because I was surprised at how encouraging people were of being severely overweight, while being underweight gets blasted on this site all the time. Why the difference?
That's absolutely right! If the OP had come on here saying, I'm severely underweight and I don't care, I love myself...how many would have said.."Uh no." and screamed pro-ana? Yet, someone comes on here severely overweight and says that and it's all high fives, kudos, and ignore the haters?
Sorry, what was that about people being fat biased again?
If you came here and said "I am severely underweight and I don't care -- I love myself and am going to make steps to improve how I feel physically" I don't think anyone would be coming at you with pitchfolks.
Yes they would..because they have. And those threads end up getting nuked really fast.0 -
Scanning through a few of the comments here, it's obvious that this site has a large number of people that think numbers are more important than a healthy lifestyle. I would love to have someone as positive as you as a mfp friend.
how could someone who is over 200 pounds overweight have a healthy lifestyle????
So, are you sitting there with a list of "typical things people say when discriminating against obese people?" when you respond? It's sad and hilarious.
what? I don't discrminate against obese people. It's sad and hilarious that I'm pointing out the obvoious that being over 200 pounds overweight is not healthy? not following why that's sad and hilarious.0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
The only reason I replied to this post was because I was surprised at how encouraging people were of being severely overweight, while being underweight gets blasted on this site all the time. Why the difference?
That's absolutely right! If the OP had come on here saying, I'm severely underweight and I don't care, I love myself...how many would have said.."Uh no." and screamed pro-ana? Yet, someone comes on here severely overweight and says that and it's all high fives, kudos, and ignore the haters?
Sorry, what was that about people being fat biased again?
If you came here and said "I am severely underweight and I don't care -- I love myself and am going to make steps to improve how I feel physically" I don't think anyone would be coming at you with pitchfolks.
Yes they would..because they have. And those threads end up getting nuked really fast.
The ones actually talking about the positive steps somebody underweight can take don't get nuked -- that what this was -- then it descended into serious and nasty name calling and meanness --- and it's not nuked.0 -
Scanning through a few of the comments here, it's obvious that this site has a large number of people that think numbers are more important than a healthy lifestyle. I would love to have someone as positive as you as a mfp friend.
how could someone who is over 200 pounds overweight have a healthy lifestyle????
So, are you sitting there with a list of "typical things people say when discriminating against obese people?" when you respond? It's sad and hilarious.
what? I don't discrminate against obese people. It's sad and hilarious that I'm pointing out the obvoious that being over 200 pounds overweight is not healthy? not following why that's sad and hilarious.
i do0 -
OP, I am glad you are happy with your body. That's wonderful, it really is.
However, just as I would not encourage a 5'8'' 90 pounds girl to stay at that weight, I cannot say that I believe it's okay for someone to be severely overweight. You may not have health issues now, but why not decrease the odds that you will experience such issues in the future?
I honestly do not understand how everyone is so encouraging of you staying at this weight. If i start a thread right now about how I want to be 80 pounds I'm going to get (rightfully) hundreds of responses about how that is unhealthy. This is no different.
But it's not for YOU to say anyone else's body is okay or not. She wasn't asking for your support -- she was saying that she felt out of place because she wasn't focused on weight or looking a certain way because she already accepts herself as she is.
The only reason I replied to this post was because I was surprised at how encouraging people were of being severely overweight, while being underweight gets blasted on this site all the time. Why the difference?
That's absolutely right! If the OP had come on here saying, I'm severely underweight and I don't care, I love myself...how many would have said.."Uh no." and screamed pro-ana? Yet, someone comes on here severely overweight and says that and it's all high fives, kudos, and ignore the haters?
Sorry, what was that about people being fat biased again?
If you came here and said "I am severely underweight and I don't care -- I love myself and am going to make steps to improve how I feel physically" I don't think anyone would be coming at you with pitchfolks.
Yes they would..because they have. And those threads end up getting nuked really fast.
The ones actually talking about the positive steps somebody underweight can take don't get nuked -- that what this was -- then it descended into serious and nasty name calling and meanness --- and it's not nuked.
It's the weekend. Give it time.0
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