Pizza is not a "bad" food.

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  • GLMOC
    GLMOC Posts: 6
    My personal trainer chewed me out for eating pizzza, then I told him I ate it without the crust and he waa a bit happier. Followed up with a recipie for me that used hamburger(lean) as the crust! Haven't tried it yet but I plan on trying it soon. have heard about the cauliflower crust but don't have that recipie yet! In the mean time if I eat pizza, I don't eat the crust!
  • lsmsrbls
    lsmsrbls Posts: 232 Member
    It is greasy. It is energy dense instead of nutrient dense. Nutrient dense foods are preferable to energy dense foods. Pizza sauce is supposedly made with tomatoes, right? Tomatoes are high in vitamins like Vitamin C, yet pizza sauce has no Vitamin C. It's like all these other processed foods that are made of things like potatoes and tomatoes, which have a lot nutrients, yet somehow have been stripped out during the process.

    Pizza sauce has no vitamin C? Source?
    Or maybe...

    "The tomato sauce on pizza contains vitamins A, C, E, K, thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, pantothenic acid, vitamin B6, folate, choline, lycopene and lutein."

    Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/268575-nutritional-information-of-pizza/#ixzz2TMWVN4BK

    lol. It's easy to find sources that say that pizza sauce has vitamin C...you know, because it does. I was wondering where this idea that pizza sauce has no vitamin C came from.
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
    There are two types of carbs. Simple and Complex. Pizza crust is a simple carb and so is table sugar, corn syrup, most packaged cereals, honey, biscuits, candy and soda. etc. Complex carbs are more likely to provide nutrients and minerals that the body needs. Athletes usually prefer complex carbs, which do not turn into sugar as quickly as simple carbs. Complex units are burned to help fuel the body or are “stored in the liver and skeletal muscles for future use,” An example of a Complex carb is green beans., fruits, beans, soy milk, low fat yogurt etc I have lost 89 pounds by eating a low (simple) carb diet and high in protein. I do eat complex carbs just not simple carbs. If you just have to have pizza make the crust from whole meal bread and stay away from the pizza that is premade.
    No. Bread and pasta are complex carbs.

    http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/carbs/simple-vs-complex-carbohydrates.html#b
    http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/carbs.html
  • albosler
    albosler Posts: 16 Member
    Every Friday I make a homemade (regular pizza, not "healthy" recipe) pizza on a large cookie sheet, cut it into 24 square pieces. 6 pieces (1/4 of the pizza) is very filling. You can eat this weekly and still stay w/in goals. The following recipe has reasonable nutritional analysis, but could be made even better if pepperoni were swapped with chicken or veggies, more whole wheat and less white flour is used, less cheese was used, or if you ate 4 pieces (very filling) rather than 6 pieces.

    6 slices (a LOT of pizza):
    Cal: 551
    Carbs: 72
    Fat: 19
    Prot: 26
    Fiber: 2

    Crust:
    Yeast dissolved in 1 cup water
    add 2 tsp olive oil and 1/2 tsp salt
    Add in 2.5 cups flour (white or a mixture of whole wheat and white - i use white)
    Let rise until it doubles in size
    Flatten onto large cookie sheet (use about 1-2tbsp corn meal to prevent sticking)

    Sauce:
    15 oz can tomato sauce
    1 tbsp sugar
    1 tsp basil
    1 tsp oregano
    1/4 tsp garlic salt
    1/4 tsp salt
    1/4 tsp garlic powder
    dash pepper

    Toppings:
    2 cups part-skim mozzerella
    34 armour pepperoni

    Pour about 1&1/2 cups sauce , use the rest for dipping crust.
  • mycupyourcake
    mycupyourcake Posts: 279 Member
    If you have additive intolerances (mine are sulphites) or mold allergies, then pizza especially with bacon or with pepperoni really messes with your perceived weight loss. I can pack on a good 5 pounds overnight in water weight when I eat a few slices of pizza. Just keep that in mind.
  • LeeshLove
    LeeshLove Posts: 197
    I like to make my own pizza....It's so much better for you, and I think it taste better than anything you can order!
  • mcouturezz
    mcouturezz Posts: 145
    everybody that eats a pizza dies.

    FACT

    LOLLLLLLlllll.. Everybody dies.. Fact :)
    Why not have pizza 'til that happens hehe
  • WindyJenny
    WindyJenny Posts: 69 Member
    I like to make my own pizza....It's so much better for you, and I think it taste better than anything you can order!



    Yes. This. All pizza is not created equal. I make mine from scratch - whole wheat dough, unsweetened tomato sauce, tons of veggies, and TUNA. Yes, I said it. A nice flaky tuna and a smidgen of olive oil make a great, protein-rich, heart-healthy pizza topping. (I ate it in Germany the first time - I was skeptical, but it was very tasty.)
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    There are two types of carbs. Simple and Complex. Pizza crust is a simple carb and so is table sugar, corn syrup, most packaged cereals, honey, biscuits, candy and soda. etc. Complex carbs are more likely to provide nutrients and minerals that the body needs. Athletes usually prefer complex carbs, which do not turn into sugar as quickly as simple carbs. Complex units are burned to help fuel the body or are “stored in the liver and skeletal muscles for future use,” An example of a Complex carb is green beans., fruits, beans, soy milk, low fat yogurt etc I have lost 89 pounds by eating a low (simple) carb diet and high in protein. I do eat complex carbs just not simple carbs. If you just have to have pizza make the crust from whole meal bread and stay away from the pizza that is premade.
    No. Bread and pasta are complex carbs.

    http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/carbs/simple-vs-complex-carbohydrates.html#b
    http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/carbs.html

    Thank you :smile:

    First post is incorrect. Not to mention the fact that the fibre from veggies (and possibly crust) as well as protein in the meal slows the speed of digestion anyway.
  • rubenchitito
    rubenchitito Posts: 16 Member
    Pizza is one of the worst "Foods" out there. It is just a source of simple carbs, with very few micro-nutrients, high in calories and high in grease.

    Eat and Apple, then eat Pizza and tell me the difference. An apple makes you feel energetic and ready to go. Pizza makes you feel the same way as if you ate a big mac.

    You can't argue that Pizza is not healthy. That is just ignorant.
  • VeinsAndBones
    VeinsAndBones Posts: 550 Member
    There is one thing worse than cherry cough syrup, only one... And that is paper cuts
  • StaticEntropy
    StaticEntropy Posts: 224 Member
    Pizza is one of the worst "Foods" out there. It is just a source of simple carbs, with very few micro-nutrients, high in calories and high in grease.

    Eat and Apple, then eat Pizza and tell me the difference. An apple makes you feel energetic and ready to go. Pizza makes you feel the same way as if you ate a big mac.

    You can't argue that Pizza is not healthy. That is just ignorant.

    Isn't this ironic? Don't you think?
  • Mmmmona
    Mmmmona Posts: 328 Member
    It depends on how it's made and with what.
  • toya316
    toya316 Posts: 137 Member
    I'm from New Jersey. Domino's isn't real pizza. Local places or homemade is what I'm referring to.
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    PREACH... :drinker: :drinker: I'm a New Yorker... Lived in Jersey as well... A PIE, any other place I have been to is in NO COMPARISON...
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
    Pizza is one of the worst "Foods" out there. It is just a source of simple carbs, with very few micro-nutrients, high in calories and high in grease.

    Eat and Apple, then eat Pizza and tell me the difference. An apple makes you feel energetic and ready to go. Pizza makes you feel the same way as if you ate a big mac.

    You can't argue that Pizza is not healthy. That is just ignorant.

    Isn't this ironic? Don't you think?
    A little too ironic. And yeah, I really do think.
  • WVprankster
    WVprankster Posts: 430 Member
    everybody that eats a pizza dies.

    FACT

    LOLLLLLLlllll.. Everybody dies.. Fact :)
    Why not have pizza 'til that happens hehe

    BRB looking for a Livestrong.com article to back up that statement....:bigsmile:
  • baconjohan
    baconjohan Posts: 8
    I eat around 1300 calories worth of pizza pretty much every Friday. I still get enough protein and remain at a caloric deficit. I am still decreasing my BF. IIFYM.
    True words dude! samé for me!
  • fluffynut4
    fluffynut4 Posts: 12 Member
    We use Lebanese bread as our pizza crust, then we add tons of veges and take care with which sauce we use, We often use our own home made sauce purely from tomatoes, and we add the smallest amount of cheese. we grill it under the griller not in the oven and dont use any oils, they are delish and we often share one between two ppl...


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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Pizza is one of the worst "Foods" out there. It is just a source of simple carbs, with very few micro-nutrients, high in calories and high in grease.

    Eat and Apple, then eat Pizza and tell me the difference. An apple makes you feel energetic and ready to go. Pizza makes you feel the same way as if you ate a big mac.

    You can't argue that Pizza is not healthy. That is just ignorant.

    When I eat pizza, I feel energetic and ready to go.

    But that's also true for when I eat a big mac.

    Now if I eat *too much* pizza or *too many* big macs, then yeah, not so much...

    ...but that's true if I eat *too many* apples. In fact, it's worse. Have you ever eaten too many apples? I have.


    ETA: And given that you're trying to add 20 pounds, not only would I say that pizza is an acceptable food to help you accomplish your goal, but also would say that it is probably an *ideal* food. As a young guy eating at a calorie surplus, you have all kinds of room in your daily calories to easily hit your minimum macros, your micros, and still enjoy pizza...frequently.
  • Keegansmum6
    Keegansmum6 Posts: 193 Member
    For some one like me that perfers either tomato basil and mozz or a pizza with tons of veggies no meat,it isn;t an issue but for my fiance who wants lots of greasy meats it is an issue.
  • IHeart90s
    IHeart90s Posts: 38 Member
    I do it at home with diet pita bread, homemade tomato sauce, mozarella cheese and veggies. Craving satisfied minus the greasiness and 5000 calories, LOL!
  • cosmic8o8
    cosmic8o8 Posts: 131 Member
    Is it still pizza if I just eat all the toppings and throw the bread part away? It's so hard to find a place with crust that I actually like. Since I'm lazy, I'm not about to make my own pizza dough.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.

    How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.

    I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.

    LOLWUT?! I'm cutting and I eat pizza. Your arguement is invalid. Nothing wrong with carbs or fat, let alone at the same time. Broscience much?
  • wwwdotcr
    wwwdotcr Posts: 128 Member
    No. You're a *kitten* for trying to single me out and make me feel bad in which you accomplished. My weight loss journey has been a very bumpy road, and I'm starting to learn that restricting certain foods out of my diet is what made me gain all of the weight back in the first place.

    Look, It is your initial attitude and approach what makes not want to sugarcoat it. I'm not really trying to make you feel bad, but in order to achieve great results, sometimes you need to make sacrifices. I always love how people here support eating junk food, pizza, etc. Yes, they can eat whatever they want, but if you really want to achieve your weight loss goals, fast and healthy, use the internet, search for tips from the pros, those who compete, those who live dedicated to fitness 100% because it is their job, etc, because from them you will learn the most. Their bodies speak for themselves.

    All I'm trying to say is, whether pizza is bad or not, is not the best food for you to be eating unless you don't mind slowing down your weight loss progress.

    Sorry but I'm going to disagree with you here. First off, not everyone who is on this site has the goal of becoming a "bodybuilder". In order to achieve great results you do have to make some sacrifices like not going back to get 2nd's or 3rd's, not eating candy all day and 100 oz of Coca cola everyday etc....but that does not mean you need to not eat the foods you love in order to get great results. It's about moderation, caloric deficit, targeting macro/micronutrients and training hard. I eat 2 slices of pizza, real pizza, NY pizza, not that crap dominos or pizza hut and I had no trouble achieving great results. I eat 2 slices, not the whole pie. Not once has my weight/fat loss stalled. I'm getting ready to approach getting into single digit bf% and should be there by my June 16th Mexico trip and I have not given up pizza or tacos, why?. Because it's my favorite food so why deprive myself. I simply adjust my day accordingly and keep it moving. Want to know how many times I have binged since logging, not once, because I don't deprive myself of anything I want. Have fun eating your bro meals in because it's the only way to achieve true results. I'll be the guy sitting at the pizza shop on Sunday after leaving the weight room.
    Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.

    How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.

    I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.

    Your statement is just so wrong and dumb it doesn't warrant much of a response. Go read a book, do some research.
    And I'm one of those people you actually see eating 2 slices. FYI.....carbs and fats aren't evil.

    If you really think eating simple carbs and fat at the same time is good for you, you need to get your head examined bud.

    I never said carbs and fat are evil (considering 60% of my diet is fat). Eating at the same time however, yep. And bull**** on your work hard you can eat whatever you like. Some people don't have a TDEE over 2500. Anyone who says they can cheat, usually falls into that range. Its hard as hell when your @ 1800 a day, so don't spread your false hope to others on this board, particularly females who have a much lower TDEE then guys.
  • goodtimezzzz
    goodtimezzzz Posts: 640 Member
    QUOTE:

    Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.

    How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.

    I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.


    LOLWUT?! I'm cutting and I eat pizza. Your arguement is invalid. Nothing wrong with carbs or fat, let alone at the same time. Broscience much?
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    right ..one medium pizza from Domino's is like 2000 calories...that is some peoples intake for a day ...

    if you make it yourself then that is different ..

    but to go pizza has an insane amount of calories in it...

    Pretty sure someone shouldn't be eating an entire medium pizza themselves, anyhow.



    You'd be wrong. Medium pizza doesn't even really fill me up.
  • kelsully
    kelsully Posts: 1,008 Member
    right ..one medium pizza from Domino's is like 2000 calories...that is some peoples intake for a day ...

    if you make it yourself then that is different ..

    but to go pizza has an insane amount of calories in it...

    Don't eat the whole pizza...it is fine if you have a slice or 2-3
  • goodtimezzzz
    goodtimezzzz Posts: 640 Member
    nice!!
  • goodtimezzzz
    goodtimezzzz Posts: 640 Member
    Pizza is my secret weapon!! eat the whole thangggg
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    Pizza is unhealthy. The crust is what makes it unhealthy because it is loaded with carbs.

    No.