Pizza is not a "bad" food.
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Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.
How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.
I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.
LOLWUT?! I'm cutting and I eat pizza. Your arguement is invalid. Nothing wrong with carbs or fat, let alone at the same time. Broscience much?
Yea, and you can eat McDonald while on a cut too. Doesn't mean its a good food to cut on. I'll stand behind one of the worst things to eat on a cut. Period.
Whats your TDEE, probably above 2000+ calories? Its not hard to maintain that with a slice of pizza thrown in.0 -
Pizza is one of the worst "Foods" out there. It is just a source of simple carbs, with very few micro-nutrients, high in calories and high in grease.
Eat and Apple, then eat Pizza and tell me the difference. An apple makes you feel energetic and ready to go. Pizza makes you feel the same way as if you ate a big mac.
You can't argue that Pizza is not healthy. That is just ignorant.
Ignorant post is...ignorant.0 -
An individual's issues with portion control does not make a food inherently good or bad, any more than the fact that some people like to have sex with sofas makes a sofa bad!
Pff, the sofa is as guilty as I am.0 -
Home made pizza is awesome. I make whole wheat crust or use a pita if I'm lazy, brush it with olive oil and add spinach, tomato, feta and peppers. Yum...0
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Pizza is one of the worst "Foods" out there. It is just a source of simple carbs, with very few micro-nutrients, high in calories and high in grease.
Eat and Apple, then eat Pizza and tell me the difference. An apple makes you feel energetic and ready to go. Pizza makes you feel the same way as if you ate a big mac.
You can't argue that Pizza is not healthy. That is just ignorant.
An apple makes me feel sloshy and still hungry.0 -
You can make a super healthy pizza by buying a wholewheat Whole Foods crust and baking it with a great home made tomato sauce, mushrooms; oyster or trumpet and portobello, kale, basil, sliced tomatoes, zucchini, tempeh bacon, nutritional yeast, crushed walnuts and garlic, herbs and chilli....SO amazingly tasty! You won't miss the cheese and you can eat a lot of this
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everybody that eats a pizza dies.
FACT
and everyone dies eventually anyways...:drinker:0 -
everybody that eats a pizza dies.
FACT
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Ohhhhh nooooo we are all going to die from eating pizza!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:0
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Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.
How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.
I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.
LOLWUT?! I'm cutting and I eat pizza. Your arguement is invalid. Nothing wrong with carbs or fat, let alone at the same time. Broscience much?
Yea, and you can eat McDonald while on a cut too. Doesn't mean its a good food to cut on. I'll stand behind one of the worst things to eat on a cut. Period.
Whats your TDEE, probably above 2000+ calories? Its not hard to maintain that with a slice of pizza thrown in.
Yeah my TDEE is around 4100. *shrug* I don't see the point? Do you have any sources for your claim that eating carbs and fat at the same time is bad for you or weight loss?0 -
right ..one medium pizza from Domino's is like 2000 calories...that is some peoples intake for a day ...
if you make it yourself then that is different ..
but to go pizza has an insane amount of calories in it...
Yeah WTF Is in Domino's the calorie content is INSANE do they like coat it in bacon fat? I suppose if they did that it would taste a lot better than it does, haha
But I agree pizza can be made healthier, and is good especially if you add veggies but a lot of times it is high calorie because it's lots of carbs and fat, my biggest problem with it is I don't find it all that filling per serving .
Coated in Bacon Fat! LOL....wait..now that I think about it...Bacon Fat Pizza sounds good... :laugh:0 -
It's basic math. Calories in, calories out. If you're budgeting for the pizza, you're probably fine. Even better if you're making it yourself, so you know what goes into it. I eat pasta 4 or 5 times a week, and I'm still at a calorie deficit or even everyday.0
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Pizza is calorie dense, but I agree that it's not bad. It's made from very natural/simple ingredients that offer decent nutrition. Of course, I'm not talking about bad pizza-- the frozen stuff that's loaded with preservatives, the Pizza Hut kind with the thick oily crust, or certain takeout places that use cheap, oily cheese and too much of it. I mean Neopolitan style, or the "tomato pie" pizzas I grew up with that are light on the cheese.0
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everybody that eats a pizza dies.
FACT
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right ..one medium pizza from Domino's is like 2000 calories...that is some peoples intake for a day ...
if you make it yourself then that is different ..
but to go pizza has an insane amount of calories in it...
Don't eat the whole pizza...it is fine if you have a slice or 2-3
And a medium dominoes pizza with bacon and banana peppers 1760 or 220 calores per slick (per the cal-o-meter on their site). I am completely capable of eating 2 slices and walking away. It's kinda high in sodium but other than that, I'm totally cool with a 440 calorie meal and if I am still hungry I'll throw together a quick salad or heat up a veggie or something.
I postulate that pizza isn't unhealthy, but folding an entire pizza in half and hoarfing it down your throat is...
Oh, and I typically have a beer with my pizza (New Castle brown ale 140cals, Guiness 120oz 120 calories)0 -
Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.
How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.
I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.
LOLWUT?! I'm cutting and I eat pizza. Your arguement is invalid. Nothing wrong with carbs or fat, let alone at the same time. Broscience much?
Yea, and you can eat McDonald while on a cut too. Doesn't mean its a good food to cut on. I'll stand behind one of the worst things to eat on a cut. Period.
Whats your TDEE, probably above 2000+ calories? Its not hard to maintain that with a slice of pizza thrown in.
Yeah my TDEE is around 4100. *shrug* I don't see the point? Do you have any sources for your claim that eating carbs and fat at the same time is bad for you or weight loss?
Im on keto, so perhaps I am biased. I am lifting stronger right now on Keto, while still cutting fat out (while the traditional calorie deficit makes you lose LBM) The point is really, most people on this forum (based on my limited reading) look to have a TDEE below 2000. You cannot eat pizza on that diet unless you have very very good willpower / portion control. I stand by it. And telling people its ok to eat a slice / the whole thing is not good information.0 -
You can make a super healthy pizza by buying a wholewheat Whole Foods crust and baking it with a great home made tomato sauce, mushrooms; oyster or trumpet and portobello, kale, basil, sliced tomatoes, zucchini, tempeh bacon, nutritional yeast, crushed walnuts and garlic, herbs and chilli....SO amazingly tasty! You won't miss the cheese and you can eat a lot of this
I love those whole foods crusts!!! FWIW, I made one of those with some organic marinara, veggies, so much garlic bc I'm a garlic freak, some pure basil pesto and two types of cheese and half the pizza (about three slices) was roughly 500-600 cals, super filling, and I lost weight that week! 500-600 is a completely reasonable dinner. Sure it's carby, but....carbs are delicious!
Restaurant or takeout pizza might be as bad as any other take out food in terms of sodium and preservatives, but there's nothing inherently bad about pizza. As long as your watching your calories and not on a total pizza-fast (or have a medical problem precluding you from eating one of the ingredients) than I can't see how it could possibly negatively effect your health.0 -
I'm sorry to burst your bubble but, pizza is not good, as a matter of fact, its not healthy whatsoever
Sorry to burst my bubble? That was a stupid expression.
I still disagree.0 -
Greasy pizza is caused by greasy meat toppings and cheap cheese. Eat at a quality pizza place that takes pride in using the best ingredients, order veggies and add maybe chicken or lean ham and that eliminates the grease complaint. Grease is a "Chain Pizza" thing where they mass produce their product using cheap ingredients for big profits. Most people only know this type of pizza and have never really had GOOD pizza. I'm a "Proud Owner of a Pizza Place for 18 years!" my downfall is that I work too many hours and never take time to eat anything. My husband has ate pizza about everyday since we bought the place and he's kept off his weight because he exercises, cycles and calorie counts. He lost 40# a few years ago after the 50+ spread without changing WHAT he's always eaten. He just started ordering less of it. Instead of scarfing down a Medium pizza, he orders a 7" or 10" and adds a salad and drinks water not soda. His blood work is all normal now after losing the weight. 5-6 days a week of every kind of pizza hasn't hurt him a bit!
Accountability and Calorie counting with ANY food can produce weight loss if done right.
http://www.tampabay.com/features/fitness/life-of-pie-losing-weight-by-eating-nothing-but-pizza/10294720 -
In this thread: OP makes excuses as to why it's okay to cheat her diet and eat pizza.
Cheat my diet?
I'm not on a diet.
When I do eat pizza, it's two or three slices from a real pizzeria.0 -
In this thread: OP makes excuses as to why it's okay to cheat her diet and eat pizza.
Respectfully, I think the OP has made it clear that in the past she has "dieted" and had great success losing weight, and then gaining it back.
For long terms sustainable weight loss, many of us choose not to restrict "bad" foods. We choose moderation. We choose lifestyle change over diet.
You can cheat a diet, you can't cheat a lifestyle change.
Yep. This is actually what I'm trying to say in a nutshell.0 -
The point is really, most people on this forum (based on my limited reading) look to have a TDEE below 2000. You cannot eat pizza on that diet unless you have very very good willpower / portion control. I stand by it. And telling people its ok to eat a slice / the whole thing is not good information.
ummm....i eat 1775/day and eat pizza every single friday. 2 slices. and most weeks i eat another slice for lunch at least once, maybe twice. i have absolutely no issues fitting it into my calories or macros. i don't consider myself as having "very very good willpower/portion control" either. sooooo what you're saying is.....???0 -
everybody that eats a pizza dies.
FACT
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I'm from New Jersey. Domino's isn't real pizza. Local places or homemade is what I'm referring to.
PREACH... :drinker: :drinker: I'm a New Yorker... Lived in Jersey as well... A PIE, any other place I have been to is in NO COMPARISON...
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FYI snooki isnt even from new jersey shes from california. i dont even think anyone from jersey shore is actually from new jersey maybe one or two of them. its not jersey thats bad, its t.v. thats bad..
Hey! Don't blame California for Snooki, she was born in Chile.0 -
No. You're a *kitten* for trying to single me out and make me feel bad in which you accomplished. My weight loss journey has been a very bumpy road, and I'm starting to learn that restricting certain foods out of my diet is what made me gain all of the weight back in the first place.
Look, It is your initial attitude and approach what makes not want to sugarcoat it. I'm not really trying to make you feel bad, but in order to achieve great results, sometimes you need to make sacrifices. I always love how people here support eating junk food, pizza, etc. Yes, they can eat whatever they want, but if you really want to achieve your weight loss goals, fast and healthy, use the internet, search for tips from the pros, those who compete, those who live dedicated to fitness 100% because it is their job, etc, because from them you will learn the most. Their bodies speak for themselves.
All I'm trying to say is, whether pizza is bad or not, is not the best food for you to be eating unless you don't mind slowing down your weight loss progress.
Sorry but I'm going to disagree with you here. First off, not everyone who is on this site has the goal of becoming a "bodybuilder". In order to achieve great results you do have to make some sacrifices like not going back to get 2nd's or 3rd's, not eating candy all day and 100 oz of Coca cola everyday etc....but that does not mean you need to not eat the foods you love in order to get great results. It's about moderation, caloric deficit, targeting macro/micronutrients and training hard. I eat 2 slices of pizza, real pizza, NY pizza, not that crap dominos or pizza hut and I had no trouble achieving great results. I eat 2 slices, not the whole pie. Not once has my weight/fat loss stalled. I'm getting ready to approach getting into single digit bf% and should be there by my June 16th Mexico trip and I have not given up pizza or tacos, why?. Because it's my favorite food so why deprive myself. I simply adjust my day accordingly and keep it moving. Want to know how many times I have binged since logging, not once, because I don't deprive myself of anything I want. Have fun eating your bro meals in because it's the only way to achieve true results. I'll be the guy sitting at the pizza shop on Sunday after leaving the weight room.Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.
How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.
I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.
Your statement is just so wrong and dumb it doesn't warrant much of a response. Go read a book, do some research.
And I'm one of those people you actually see eating 2 slices. FYI.....carbs and fats aren't evil.
If you really think eating simple carbs and fat at the same time is good for you, you need to get your head examined bud.
I never said carbs and fat are evil (considering 60% of my diet is fat). Eating at the same time however, yep. And bull**** on your work hard you can eat whatever you like. Some people don't have a TDEE over 2500. Anyone who says they can cheat, usually falls into that range. Its hard as hell when your @ 1800 a day, so don't spread your false hope to others on this board, particularly females who have a much lower TDEE then guys.
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Umm, I'm a girl, my calorie goal is about 1700 a day, and I eat pizza at least every other a week-Papa John's with extra cheese. I've averaged a 1 1/2 lb loss every week since I started in February.No. You're a *kitten* for trying to single me out and make me feel bad in which you accomplished. My weight loss journey has been a very bumpy road, and I'm starting to learn that restricting certain foods out of my diet is what made me gain all of the weight back in the first place.
Look, It is your initial attitude and approach what makes not want to sugarcoat it. I'm not really trying to make you feel bad, but in order to achieve great results, sometimes you need to make sacrifices. I always love how people here support eating junk food, pizza, etc. Yes, they can eat whatever they want, but if you really want to achieve your weight loss goals, fast and healthy, use the internet, search for tips from the pros, those who compete, those who live dedicated to fitness 100% because it is their job, etc, because from them you will learn the most. Their bodies speak for themselves.
All I'm trying to say is, whether pizza is bad or not, is not the best food for you to be eating unless you don't mind slowing down your weight loss progress.
Sorry but I'm going to disagree with you here. First off, not everyone who is on this site has the goal of becoming a "bodybuilder". In order to achieve great results you do have to make some sacrifices like not going back to get 2nd's or 3rd's, not eating candy all day and 100 oz of Coca cola everyday etc....but that does not mean you need to not eat the foods you love in order to get great results. It's about moderation, caloric deficit, targeting macro/micronutrients and training hard. I eat 2 slices of pizza, real pizza, NY pizza, not that crap dominos or pizza hut and I had no trouble achieving great results. I eat 2 slices, not the whole pie. Not once has my weight/fat loss stalled. I'm getting ready to approach getting into single digit bf% and should be there by my June 16th Mexico trip and I have not given up pizza or tacos, why?. Because it's my favorite food so why deprive myself. I simply adjust my day accordingly and keep it moving. Want to know how many times I have binged since logging, not once, because I don't deprive myself of anything I want. Have fun eating your bro meals in because it's the only way to achieve true results. I'll be the guy sitting at the pizza shop on Sunday after leaving the weight room.Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.
How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.
I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.
Your statement is just so wrong and dumb it doesn't warrant much of a response. Go read a book, do some research.
And I'm one of those people you actually see eating 2 slices. FYI.....carbs and fats aren't evil.
If you really think eating simple carbs and fat at the same time is good for you, you need to get your head examined bud.
I never said carbs and fat are evil (considering 60% of my diet is fat). Eating at the same time however, yep. And bull**** on your work hard you can eat whatever you like. Some people don't have a TDEE over 2500. Anyone who says they can cheat, usually falls into that range. Its hard as hell when your @ 1800 a day, so don't spread your false hope to others on this board, particularly females who have a much lower TDEE then guys.0 -
No. You're a *kitten* for trying to single me out and make me feel bad in which you accomplished. My weight loss journey has been a very bumpy road, and I'm starting to learn that restricting certain foods out of my diet is what made me gain all of the weight back in the first place.
Look, It is your initial attitude and approach what makes not want to sugarcoat it. I'm not really trying to make you feel bad, but in order to achieve great results, sometimes you need to make sacrifices. I always love how people here support eating junk food, pizza, etc. Yes, they can eat whatever they want, but if you really want to achieve your weight loss goals, fast and healthy, use the internet, search for tips from the pros, those who compete, those who live dedicated to fitness 100% because it is their job, etc, because from them you will learn the most. Their bodies speak for themselves.
All I'm trying to say is, whether pizza is bad or not, is not the best food for you to be eating unless you don't mind slowing down your weight loss progress.
Sorry but I'm going to disagree with you here. First off, not everyone who is on this site has the goal of becoming a "bodybuilder". In order to achieve great results you do have to make some sacrifices like not going back to get 2nd's or 3rd's, not eating candy all day and 100 oz of Coca cola everyday etc....but that does not mean you need to not eat the foods you love in order to get great results. It's about moderation, caloric deficit, targeting macro/micronutrients and training hard. I eat 2 slices of pizza, real pizza, NY pizza, not that crap dominos or pizza hut and I had no trouble achieving great results. I eat 2 slices, not the whole pie. Not once has my weight/fat loss stalled. I'm getting ready to approach getting into single digit bf% and should be there by my June 16th Mexico trip and I have not given up pizza or tacos, why?. Because it's my favorite food so why deprive myself. I simply adjust my day accordingly and keep it moving. Want to know how many times I have binged since logging, not once, because I don't deprive myself of anything I want. Have fun eating your bro meals in because it's the only way to achieve true results. I'll be the guy sitting at the pizza shop on Sunday after leaving the weight room.Pizza is horrible for you with its double whammy of Carbs + Fats at the same time. The reason you eat so many slices and get hungry soon and end up binge eating. Throws your insulin into complete wacko.
How many people do you actually see eating 1 - 2 slices.
I haven't touched pizza since last year. Probably one of the WORST foods you can eat while cutting. Period.
Your statement is just so wrong and dumb it doesn't warrant much of a response. Go read a book, do some research.
And I'm one of those people you actually see eating 2 slices. FYI.....carbs and fats aren't evil.
If you really think eating simple carbs and fat at the same time is good for you, you need to get your head examined bud.
I never said carbs and fat are evil (considering 60% of my diet is fat). Eating at the same time however, yep. And bull**** on your work hard you can eat whatever you like. Some people don't have a TDEE over 2500. Anyone who says they can cheat, usually falls into that range. Its hard as hell when your @ 1800 a day, so don't spread your false hope to others on this board, particularly females who have a much lower TDEE then guys.
Please link me to all the solid evidence you have that you cannot lose fat while eating simple carbs and fat.
Also, those people you say that have a hard as hell time fitting pizza into their day because they only eat 1800 calories.......that's me. What do you think? I'm cutting on 2500 calories a day? Get real bud. Calling bs on the concept of eat and train hard is pure ignorance. Give it a shot, it works.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/89/6/2717.abstract
Why do you think almost every diet is either "low fat" or "low carbs".
I did, and I stalled + my muscle retention was absolute ****. And had hunge hunger cravings after eating. I'm at the gym / running outside 6 days a week. If you want to slow down your progress go for it. I'm done defending, seems like all you pizza lovers are going bonkers over something real obvious.
If pizza is not bad food, then you can pretty much classify anything as good food.
When its time to bulk however, im sure i'll be eating some pizza at some point.0 -
Twinkies are not a bad food either.
I bet I could lose weight consistently on a meal plan consisting of only twinkies and water.0
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