Girls wear certain clothes when they are looking
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K I'm out.
http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2010/04/04/what-is-slut-shaming/
Apparently some people need to know exactly what it is I'm talking about. If you care about being a decent human being, educate yourself.
There's a good read.
Seriously though, Bates Motel time.
ALSO, chelledbrown, cookie dough forever.
No. I don't have to agree with you, and I am educated, just with a different opinion.
Feminism and womens rights have nothing to do with sleeping around. Don't try and turn it into something it isn't.
Not educated on this subject apparently, since you think women's rights have nothing to do with women's sexuality. It has.. a lot to with that.
In part, yes. But I'm pretty sure the movement of womens rights was not SOLELY started on the basis women should sleep around. You're undermining it if that is what you think. They fought for the right to work, vote, and be equal to men. Don't twist that for your own gain.
Uh, did I say it's solely about women sleeping around? No, I said it has a lot to do with women's sexuality.
You're absolutely ridiculous when you attempt to argue. I'm not twisting ****, lady. You are.0 -
Holding other people to your standards and belittling them for not meeting said standards, is where you're wrong. You talk about a society where you're looked down for having respect for your sexuality, yet you look down on those who choose a path different than yours when it comes to it.
Everyone has some standard in life, and holds everyone else to that in a personal fashion. No one can say they honestly do not. Otherwise, we would not have opinions, and we wouldn't have our own identities. If you do not agree with something like murder (dramatic comparison, I know) you are not going to say it's ok by your standards, but of course it is ok by a murderers standards. As I said, too dramatic to compare, the point is not everyone has the same standards but you personally hold the world to yours. Not someone elses.
I don't look down on people, but if there's a time it comes up and I am given a chance to voice my opinion with others, I will do it.
As I said many times in this thread, I do not simply look down on people that do it, I look down on the people that do it and expect everyone to love them for it. I look down on women and men that sleep around, yet wonder why they can't find a nice guy/girl.
Girls will not respect a man that sleeps and plays off loads of girls, and you can dispute that, but chances are, if it happened to you it would upset you like any normal person, and vice versa.0 -
Quote studies please beez. To back up your assertion that women who shave their legs and wear heels are looking for sex.
So, the converse is also true? Women who don't shave their legs and who wear flats are discouraging sexual attention?
^^^ LOL this! I shave my legs and occasionally wear heels but I'm not looking for sex, smh0 -
If a man treats a woman poorly, that is his fault entirely. I would not blame myself or the way I dress for that. I didn't plan on replying to any more of your responses because they're irritating and pointless, but it's just so obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Pls stop. You aren't even hot. I would bang all of these cougars before I'd go near your overly-clothed behind. Please, show me some skin.
Trust me, no sleep lost over that!
Good, you may be in luck with that one. Enjoy!
On an end note, if you all want to be *kitten* and dress as such, no one is stopping you.
Just don't be surprised when you end up old and alone, crying, wondering why men use you and treat you bad.0 -
MY MILKSHAKE BRINGS ALL THE BOYS TO THE YARD0
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Uh, did I say it's solely about women sleeping around? No, I said it has a lot to do with women's sexuality.
You're absolutely ridiculous when you attempt to argue. I'm not twisting ****, lady. You are.
If you say so, but I'm pretty sure the majority of sane women in this world didn't see women putting their lives on the line for us to have a better life as a reason to sleep with as many men as possible.0 -
MY MILKSHAKE BRINGS ALL THE BOYS TO THE YARD
I'm on the lawn right now...where you at?
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Uh, did I say it's solely about women sleeping around? No, I said it has a lot to do with women's sexuality.
You're absolutely ridiculous when you attempt to argue. I'm not twisting ****, lady. You are.
If you say so, but I'm pretty sure the majority of sane women in this world didn't see women putting their lives on the line for us to have a better life as a reason to sleep with as many men as possible.
I can't even do anything but laugh at this.0 -
No one has said that, not even once. I'm married, for one, and I'm sure several other people who've been commenting are as well. Either way, not once has anyone said that all men are disgusting. Can you even read?
WouldNOTbang/10
Pls stop. You aren't even hot.
Maybe you're right, for all I know I'm not hot in the slightest.
According to these women, all men are disgusting and shouldn't even comment on what women look like anywho so, it's all good.0 -
If a man treats a woman poorly, that is his fault entirely. I would not blame myself or the way I dress for that. I didn't plan on replying to any more of your responses because they're irritating and pointless, but it's just so obvious that you have no idea what you're talking about.
And vice versa. I don't think it is ok for women to use men for sex. That's my point.
Well, since this is a conversation based on opinion, neither you or I are wrong. You can put me down to no end for disagreeing, but at the end of the day, my opinion will be the same as will yours. You will meet many more people with my opinion in life.0 -
Uh, did I say it's solely about women sleeping around? No, I said it has a lot to do with women's sexuality.
You're absolutely ridiculous when you attempt to argue. I'm not twisting ****, lady. You are.
If you say so, but I'm pretty sure the majority of sane women in this world didn't see women putting their lives on the line for us to have a better life as a reason to sleep with as many men as possible.
I can't even do anything but laugh at this.
Laugh as much as you want. You're only making yourself look bad by replying with stupid comments about how everyone else is wrong, but you must be ultimately right. Grow up.0 -
MY MILKSHAKE BRINGS ALL THE BOYS TO THE YARD
And I'm like: I don't share my ice cream. Also- this is a private residence and you are all trespassing!!!!
WHERE IS 00SARAH?!?!?
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No one has said that, not even once. I'm married, for one, and I'm sure several other people who've been commenting are as well. Either way, not once has anyone said that all men are disgusting. Can you even read?
Sarcasm really doesn't translate in text, does it.
No, I cannot read, I am illiterate. Guess it's all the stupidity getting to my brain and impairing my function to read properly?0 -
MY MILKSHAKE BRINGS ALL THE BOYS TO THE YARD
And I'm like: I don't share my ice cream. Also- this is a private residence and you are all trespassing!!!!
WHERE IS 00SARAH?!?!? haha
Somehow, this just seem cruel to me! 0 -
MY MILKSHAKE BRINGS ALL THE BOYS TO THE YARD
And I'm like: I don't share my ice cream. Also- this is a private residence and you are all trespassing!!!!
WHERE IS 00SARAH?!?!? haha
Somehow, this just seem cruel to me!
Awww... I will share some ice cream. Dang. I'm such a softie.0 -
Agree with all of this so much!
We obviously have very different views of the world. To me having sex is not "giving yourself". It's just two people enjoying something they both want.
I was not asking you to praise or adopt such behavior for yourself. I was just saying that it's not your place to choose what's "normal" for other people, or to judge them for their choices. A woman who has slept with 25 guys is not less worthy than one who only had one partner.
If you were born in '93, like your name suggests, your "later in life" didn't happen yet.
Yes, and that's what is so great about society, not everyone has the same view on life. I never asked otherwise, rather, everyone else wants me to agree with their lifestyle.
I gave you my personal definition of normal, everyone has a different once, do I need to clarify it anymore? Why take everything as a personal attack?
No, but I assure you when it does, I can look back and say I treated myself fairly and regarded sex as a special thing. There's worse regrets to have than taking consideration for who you give yourself to, which is what sex essentially is, even if you call it something else. It's an important thing, but it has now been degraded to something common, because people take it so lightly as if it is nothing. In this society, you're looked down on for having respect for your sexuality.
I assure you, I did not take it as a personal attack, as I don't even fit your definition for the word "*kitten*". I may fit your definition for "dressing like a *kitten*" occasionally.
All I am saying is, sex is an important thing for you, you view it as a special thing, something you offer to the right partner. That's great, really, more power to you! That's your "normal". I will not judge you for it.
Holding other people to your standards and belittling them for not meeting said standards, is where you're wrong. You talk about a society where you're looked down for having respect for your sexuality, yet you look down on those who choose a path different than yours when it comes to it.0 -
Uh, did I say it's solely about women sleeping around? No, I said it has a lot to do with women's sexuality.
You're absolutely ridiculous when you attempt to argue. I'm not twisting ****, lady. You are.
If you say so, but I'm pretty sure the majority of sane women in this world didn't see women putting their lives on the line for us to have a better life as a reason to sleep with as many men as possible.
I can't even do anything but laugh at this.
Laugh as much as you want. You're only making yourself look bad by replying with stupid comments about how everyone else is wrong, but you must be ultimately right. Grow up.
Pretty sure I'm not. This is not about being right or wrong. This is about you treating women who choose to sleep with a lot of people like they are inferior because of their decisions. You may not agree with their habits, which I think is fine, but you can't just slander women for choosing to have an opinion and behaviors that YOU don't agree with.0 -
Pretty sure I'm not. This is not about being right or wrong. This is about you treating women who choose to sleep with a lot of people like they are inferior because of their decisions. You may not agree with their habits, which I think is fine, but you can't just slander women for choosing to have an opinion and behaviors that YOU don't agree with.
It was ok for you to slander someone that didn't agree with you, though, so maybe we are both in the wrong??
I came here with a conflicting opinion and was jumped on by a group of women acting like children, etc.
It is YOUR opinion that I am saying some women are inferior, that doesn't mean you are right.
Just because I used the word '*kitten*', you are dwelling on that, yet falsely saying you think it is fine not to agree. You are having a whole argument essentially over semantics. As far as I'm concerned, this argument is over, you have made yourself look childish with your clique-ish behaviour, and the one or two women that I disagreed with and still did not act like children in their replies are a credit to themselves when put beside people like you.
I don't have to justify anything I say, just like you don't have to justify anything you do. No one asked you to, you took it upon yourself to tell me YOU aren't a *kitten* - well done.
I stated my opinion, which wasn't subjective to any of you, you just chose to take it that way. That's not my problem. If you are going to be this sensitive in life, you're going to have a lot of conversations like this.0 -
^^ And that's the ONLY point that we've all been trying to argue. The conversation keeps getting derailed by a certain user who likes to twist everyone's words around while telling them to "grow up".Uh, did I say it's solely about women sleeping around? No, I said it has a lot to do with women's sexuality.
You're absolutely ridiculous when you attempt to argue. I'm not twisting ****, lady. You are.
If you say so, but I'm pretty sure the majority of sane women in this world didn't see women putting their lives on the line for us to have a better life as a reason to sleep with as many men as possible.
I can't even do anything but laugh at this.
Laugh as much as you want. You're only making yourself look bad by replying with stupid comments about how everyone else is wrong, but you must be ultimately right. Grow up.
Pretty sure I'm not. This is not about being right or wrong. This is about you treating women who choose to sleep with a lot of people like they are inferior because of their decisions. You may not agree with their habits, which I think is fine, but you can't just slander women for choosing to have an opinion and behaviors that YOU don't agree with.0 -
^^ And that's the ONLY point that we've all been trying to argue. The conversation keeps getting derailed by a certain user who likes to twist everyone's words around while telling them to "grow up".
As I said, everyone has their opinion and just because you think I'm treating a certain lifestyle as inferior doesn't make you right. You're contradicting yourself completely by saying that.
Yeah, I will not take that back, the majority of people here do need to grow up, because you're like a group of hens, crowding around and pecking at one thing you dislike. If you honestly think everyone in the world is going to be fair and tolerant of what YOU think is ok, you're in for a bad time.0 -
Pretty sure I'm not. This is not about being right or wrong. This is about you treating women who choose to sleep with a lot of people like they are inferior because of their decisions. You may not agree with their habits, which I think is fine, but you can't just slander women for choosing to have an opinion and behaviors that YOU don't agree with.
It was ok for you to slander someone that didn't agree with you, though, so maybe we are both in the wrong??
I came here with a conflicting opinion and was jumped on by a group of women acting like children, etc.
It is YOUR opinion that I am saying some women are inferior, that doesn't mean you are right.
Just because I used the word '*kitten*', you are dwelling on that, yet falsely saying you think it is fine not to agree. You are having a whole argument essentially over semantics. As far as I'm concerned, this argument is over, you have made yourself look childish with your clique-ish behaviour, and the one or two women that I disagreed with and still did not act like children in their replies are a credit to themselves when put beside people like you.
I don't have to justify anything I say, just like you don't have to justify anything you do. No one asked you to, you took it upon yourself to tell me YOU aren't a *kitten* - well done.
I stated my opinion, which wasn't subjective to any of you, you just chose to take it that way. That's not my problem. If you are going to be this sensitive in life, you're going to have a lot of conversations like this.
Merely trying to inform people that they shouldn't treat people like you are. Obviously a lost cause on you. And I know what I've said. It all makes sense.0 -
^^ And that's the ONLY point that we've all been trying to argue. The conversation keeps getting derailed by a certain user who likes to twist everyone's words around while telling them to "grow up".
As I said, everyone has their opinion and just because you think I'm treating a certain lifestyle as inferior doesn't make you right. You're contradicting yourself completely by saying that.
Yeah, I will not take that back, the majority of people here do need to grow up, because you're like a group of hens, crowding around and pecking at one thing you dislike. If you honestly think everyone in the world is going to be fair and tolerant of what YOU think is ok, you're in for a bad time.
Sorry you've been brainwashed by society to think women who sleep around are below you, your highness.0 -
Merely trying to inform people that they shouldn't treat people like you are. Obviously a lost cause on you. And I know what I've said. It all makes sense.
I TREAT people perfectly fine. That doesn't automatically mean I have to agree with their lifestyle.
You're right, it is a lost cause, it's stupid to think it was ever otherwise. Why would I change my whole opinion based on what a stranger said on a forum? Please.0 -
Sorry you've been brainwashed by society to think women who sleep around are below you.
It's nice to see anyone who doesn't agree automatically with you is brainwashed. How totalitarian of you.0 -
Merely trying to inform people that they shouldn't treat people like you are. Obviously a lost cause on you. And I know what I've said. It all makes sense.
I TREAT people perfectly fine. That doesn't automatically mean I have to agree with their lifestyle.
You're right, it is a lost cause, it's stupid to think it was ever otherwise. Why would I change my whole opinion based on what a stranger said on a forum? Please.
Hahaha, because conversations in person and essays are SOOOOO much more valid?
You just pretty much said you don't respect sluts as much as "non-sluts." You also OBVIOUSLY offended a lot of women.
Check yoself for you reck yoself.0 -
Sorry you've been brainwashed by society to think women who sleep around are below you.
It's nice to see anyone who doesn't agree automatically with you is brainwashed. How totalitarian of you.
This is not about your opinion, it's how you're slandering women BECAUSE of your opinion. You can have it and still be decent to people.0 -
Whoa whoa.
Too much ad hominem in this thread for my liking. I'm out.
Last thing I have to say. Sleep with however many or few people you want. Sleep with girls, sleep with boys. Sleep with girls and boys. It's your choice, and I shall not judge you for it.0 -
You just pretty much said you don't respect sluts as much as "non-sluts." You also OBVIOUSLY offended a lot of women.
Big deal? A lot of people get offended in life. That's not my problem. If you don't want to be offended by what people think, keep it to yourself.
The ultimate question is, women that sleep with a lot of men and are judged for it obviously are proud of the fact and spread word of their sex life. If you don't want to be judged, keep your sex life private.
Have I had people close to me engage in this behaviour? Yes. I didn't treat them any less from before, but that doesn't mean I approved of what they were doing, or thought it was right.
If you think everyone is going to agree with everything you do all the time, and you fight otherwise, I'm sorry for all the conflict you are going to come across.0 -
This is not about your opinion, it's how you're slandering women BECAUSE of your opinion. You can have it and still be decent to people.
No. Not women. Certain women. This is not a gender issue, as I have mentioned men aswell. I have not been indecent to anyone, I have just said what I personally do not like about certain things. As have you. When can you accept that everyone can have an opinion and not just you?0 -
This is not about your opinion, it's how you're slandering women BECAUSE of your opinion. You can have it and still be decent to people.
No. Not women. Certain women. This is not a gender issue, as I have mentioned men aswell. I have not been indecent to anyone, I have just said what I personally do not like about certain things. As have you. When can you accept that everyone can have an opinion and not just you?
you have to be trolling. you just. . .have to be.0
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