Whats wrong with Subway?

I've never seen anyone hating on Subway at MFP. But, since you're asking... It has no real flavor or appeal. It's boring. it's the vanilla milkshake of milkshakes. And some people like vanilla and that's okay with me. I'm just not a vanilla milkshake girl.

BUT, and this is IMPORTANT: don't fool yourself into thinking it's different than other "fast food" chains. It's the same. Purchases and uses processed meats and cheeses and breads and just like all the rest. Check out the ingredient list at http://www.subway.com/Nutrition/Files/usProdIngredients.pdf.

For example, Black Forest ham: Ham cured with: water, dextrose, salt, potassium lactate, contains 2% or less modified food starch (derived from corn), sodium phosphates, sodium diacetate, sodium erythorbate, smoke flavoring, sodium nitrite. May contain: seasoning [potassium chloride, pork stock, sugar, yeast extract, salt, lactic acid, fructose, sunflower oil, cysteine HCL, calcium lactate, modified food starch, flavors, grill flavor (from sunflower oil), polysorbate 80, rendered pork fat, and smoke flavor].

That's a whole mess of unpronounceable chemicals and processes for, ya know, MEAT, that already existed as MEAT when it was on the pig.

or 9-GRAIN WHEAT: Enriched wheat flour (wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, iron, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), water, yeast, whole wheat flour, sugar, contains 2% or less of the following: wheat gluten, oat fiber, soybean oil, wheat bran, salt, wheat, rye, yellow corn, oats, triticale, brown rice, barley, flaxseed, millet, sorghum, yeast nutrients (calcium carbonate, calcium sulfate, ammonium sulfate), vitamin D2, dough conditioners (DATEM, sodium stearoyl lactylate, potassium iodate, ascorbic acid, azodicarbonamide), caramel color, refinery syrup, honey, yeast extract, natural flavor, enzymes. Contains wheat.

I consider this franken-food. But that's just me.

I like it enough. More of a Jimmy John's person myself, though.

Love that Jimmy John's! Now, let's see what people don't like about that place...

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded.

Are you serious?! It's 2012 and you are still using the R word?!?

...it's 2012 and there are still people offended by the word "retard" ??!??!!

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded.

Are you serious?! It's 2012 and you are still using the R word?!?

...it's 2012 and there are still people offended by the word "retard" ??!??!!

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded.

Are you serious?! It's 2012 and you are still using the R word?!?

...it's 2012 and there are still people offended by the word "retard" ??!??!!

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded.

Are you serious?! It's 2012 and you are still using the R word?!?

...it's 2012 and there are still people offended by the word "retard" ??!??!!

Processed meats full of sodium and MSG - gives me a migraine
Bread - Can't eat it now, but even when I did Subway is just too much bread to meat & veggie ratio to me

For the same calories, I'd much rather have a huge salad with protein and full fat full flavor dressing
And for me, 15% protein is way too low. My ratios are more 30% carb, 40% protein, 30% fat

precisely. they're very stingy on the meat and veg. and, all the meat is way processed anyway. when i'm trying to lose a few, i nix processed foods, sugar, and grains. taking a bite of a subway sandwich sometimes seems like getting a mouthful of bread.

When yoe're trying to lose a few your diet must be awfully bland

not at all!!

no butter or cooking oils and all that yucky processed stuff makes for bland cooking

Processed meats full of sodium and MSG - gives me a migraine
Bread - Can't eat it now, but even when I did Subway is just too much bread to meat & veggie ratio to me

For the same calories, I'd much rather have a huge salad with protein and full fat full flavor dressing
And for me, 15% protein is way too low. My ratios are more 30% carb, 40% protein, 30% fat

precisely. they're very stingy on the meat and veg. and, all the meat is way processed anyway. when i'm trying to lose a few, i nix processed foods, sugar, and grains. taking a bite of a subway sandwich sometimes seems like getting a mouthful of bread.

When yoe're trying to lose a few your diet must be awfully bland

not at all!!

no butter or cooking oils and all that yucky processed stuff makes for bland cooking

where did you get no butter from?

You're right just yesterday I tripped over a butter plant that was blossoming with sticks of butter

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded.

Are you serious?! It's 2012 and you are still using the R word?!?

I'm just talking regular healthy eating. You know, food-guide style... where the daily recommended intake is 55% carbs, 30% fats and 15% protein along with plenty of vitamins and minerals.

i go more of a paleo route.... believe it or not, even 'whole grain wheat' breads are bad for you. Grains aren't what they used to be before people started altering everything. it all turns to sugar when it gets into your system, and generally goes straight to belly fat, among other places. Subway salads are ok, add a roasted chicken to it and some italian dressing and you're good. Fat free dressings are worse for you than regular if you are trying to keep to a cleaner eating pallet. sure they're lower in fat, but between all of the chemicals that's pumped into them to keep flavor, they're definitely not the better choice. Cheese isn't good in general.

Any diet that recommends that your intake be 55/30/15 is retarded.

Are you serious?! It's 2012 and you are still using the R word?!?

So.. the year changes to 2012 and all of a sudden there are rules for what words to say for different years? How..well, retarded.