i dont get it

Good for you for being perfect. Let me know how that's going for you in 5 years, OK?

I subscribe to the idea that you can have anything you want, in moderation. Yes, I still have bacon cheeseburgers. No, I don't have them every day. Or even every week or month. But if I really want one, then I'm going to have one.

Why are you so concerned about what others eat? Mind your own business.

Here it comes...

lol second message priceless!!!! as it certainly did

btw, i saw OP's picture, and this came to mind.

Finally the dieting problem has been resolved!!!

1. The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
2. The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
3. The Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
4. The Italians drink a lot of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
5. The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.
CONCLUSION:
Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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More healthy =/= perfectly healthy. In a perfect world, all our food would be organic and pure and lovely, but the majority of us live in an imperfect reality where we make compromises every day to try to meet our nutritional needs while staying within a budget, cooperating with friends and family, meeting the demands of a busy schedule, etc. For many people, an all-or-nothing mentality is an invitation to failure: "Well, I had a Twinkie, so now everything is ruined and I might as well just eat a whole bucket of fried chicken." For a lot of folks, being able to be more healthy without expecting 100% perfection is the only way to make a lifestyle change that will stick.

well thats because im recovering from an eating disorder but thats not the point. that is a mental illness.
so id i said in moderation i should drink because thats better then doing meth is that okay too?

Yes, it is a better choice. It IS better to drink from time to time than doing Meth......

hopefully! or I'm up **** creek

More healthy =/= perfectly healthy. In a perfect world, all our food would be organic and pure and lovely, but the majority of us live in an imperfect reality where we make compromises every day to try to meet our nutritional needs while staying within a budget, cooperating with friends and family, meeting the demands of a busy schedule, etc. For many people, an all-or-nothing mentality is an invitation to failure: "Well, I had a Twinkie, so now everything is ruined and I might as well just eat a whole bucket of fried chicken." For a lot of folks, being able to be more healthy without expecting 100% perfection is the only way to make a lifestyle change that will stick.

well thats because im recovering from an eating disorder but thats not the point. that is a mental illness.
so id i said in moderation i should drink because thats better then doing meth is that okay too?

I am not sure what you are calling a mental illness here. Is it the fact that you have an eating disorder or that people who eat things that they know are bad for them have an eating disorder? If it is the first, and your eating disorder has anything to do with excessive limitation of calories (such as anorexia or bulimia), I would like to enlighten you that many people who are obese also have eating disorders. Those eating disorders have led them to be overweight. Yes, they know that the quarter pounder with double cheese is wrong for them, but they are not able to stop themselves from eating it. Just like a person with anorexia can't stop themselves from not eating food.

If the mental illness is the second one, then you already have that concept. If you had the concept, then you wouldn't have started this thread, because you would have realized that people who eat like that do have a mental illness.

Since you asked the question, I will assume that you are referring to your eating disorder, totally ignoring the fact that others who eat in an unhealthy fashion, even when they know the food is not healthy for them, may have a mental illness as well.

Personally, you are naive to think only those who limit their calories excessively (bulimia and anorexia) are the only ones with mental illness that leads to an eating disorder. For me, I won't say that my bad eating habits are a mental illness. To me that would be making an excuse. It is the non-acceptance of responsibility for one's behavior, whether one is underweight, normal weight, overweight, or obese. But to use that as your excuse without recognizing that other people may also have a mental illness that leads them to eat poorly shows how little you know about mental illness and dietary issues.

I'm not being mean or judgmental, but what I don't get, is how any professional would allow you to be apart of a social network like this that is focused on food & fitness when you have an ED? That seems the exact opposite of progress. We are all here for support, not to be judged for the personal choices we make like using Splenda or drinking Diet Coke for that matter. I only read the first couple pages and the last one. I'm somewhat new on here...but in my opinion...I think you need to rethink your reason for being here.

Some people could argue "bad" for you until the world ends. There's thousands of pages of research for a number of natural foods that could be considered bad. It's chemistry, biology, and a whole lot of other things the general public doesn't understand. For instance, did you know that when you heat Agave Nectar, and I mean pure 100% all natural certified organic Agave, when you heat it, there's a chemical reaction that turns that natural sugar into Fructose...(INSERT HUGE GASP HERE!) So, don't use it to sweeten up your HOT tea or cook with, or use it in your oats, you're doing yourself a dis-service. Or one could argue that fructose is fine in small quantities. Again, argue till you are blue in the face and there's hundred's more examples where you could argue back and forth about the benefits of all natural, organic, vegan, etc.

My point is, there's too much out there for any one person to know in order to be perfect. On top of that, there's the mental part of the game that even though we know something may be bad for us, we can't help but choose it over the alternative. You should understand this mental part more than anyone.

This was my thought......really? Everything will eventually kill you so not enjoy what you have today.

I stopped reading after 'fluoride debate'

I'm going to go smoke some meth and eat a cheese burger.

Lol...nobody eats after doing that...they clean house, and bug you for cigarettes!

As I live in Southern California, I can attest that the last statement is true. Except today, one of them asked me for a hot dog AND a cigarette!!!