How to target back fat?
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YES! Finally, someone "gets it". This is exactly what I have been saying in posts throughout this thread. You hit on every point I have already made. BTW, I am also currently getting certified as an A.C.E. Personal Trainer.One cannot target any fat on the body with direct exercise. You can with lipo though. If you aren't lifting, then you're not helping to strengthen or retain muscle while you lose weight. Lifting also help with metabolism.
And last, it comes down to calorie deficit. Not too much or too little either. Consistency matters as well as INTENSITY. If the cardio you're presently doing has you at a plateau, then change it to a higher intensity.
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There are no longitudinal studies that track subjects assuming long-term chronic calorie restriction (years); thus there is no evidence to suggest the degree of potential decline and how long it takes for everything to recover once the deficit has been nullified and a maintenance level of energy intake is adequately sustained.
With that said, you are faced with two options: A)Keep decreasing calories to the point it negatively affects your health or B)Take a diet break by slowly reducing your overall deficit and eating more over the course of several months. You may also wish to get your RMR tested to see what your adjusted value is.0 -
Normally I wouldn't jump into a thread this late, but I feel like good information isn't getting through, so I'll add my experience.
I've always had a lot of back fat, but it's been disappearing... by strength training my entire body, eating a small caloric deficit, and watching my macros.
Same here. I would post before/after pics too, but something tells me not to give a *kitten*.0 -
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. It variates according to hormones. This is 100% for a fact and proven. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that "it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong". Again, it is called, "hormonal timing". Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.0 -
This is the place where the people with the low IQ decided to hang out tonight. You all have fun.
Ironic post is ironic.0 -
petal to the medal
this was awesome. (not making fun of you, just got a chuckle out of it)0 -
First, you can't target where your body loses fat from. Your body picks, so you just have to accept your body will store fat in certain areas and not others.
Second, you should do some strength training. I weigh about the same I did in college, but I'm much smaller thanks to an abundance of lean muscle.0 -
A tattoo of a crosshair right on that region would work, if the strength training and super diet/nutrition doesn't pan out for you.0
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OP, you may want to take a very long diet break. I read in your profile that most of your weight loss efforts have either come from starving yourself or yo-yo diets. With this in consideration, and the fact you have been potentially under a calorie deficit for over a year, you may want to give your endocrine system a much needed break to allow the hormones that regulate your metabolism as well as RMR a chance to recover. By keeping the petal to the medal, so to speak, you've been reducing your energy balance lower and lower meaning you'll need to keep lowering calories to elicit further weight loss. Of course, this isn't wise since this will lead to severe under-eating.
What are you suggesting exactly? My metabolism is screwed up for life? That's what I have been thinking.
It is possible that you have caused some metabolic slow down/ damage/adaptation (whatever you want to call it) if you have been in a severe deficit for a long time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHHzie6XRGk
It is possible to fix but it takes patience as it may take as long to fix as it did to cause the problem in the first place.
Interesting. It's annoying. I feel like I can eat like a bird and not lose anything, but I am eating all the calories I am suggested by MFP now trying to fix things.
The last time I starved myself was 8 years ago. Other than that, I have been on many kinds of diets...weight watchers, atkins, juicing, blah blah. Now, I feel like nothing works anymore for me.0 -
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. It variates according to hormones. This is 100% for a fact and proven. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
Do you smoke crack in your spare time? JW, lol, :flowerforyou:0 -
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?0 -
There are no longitudinal studies that track subjects assuming long-term chronic calorie restriction (years); thus there is no evidence to suggest the degree of potential decline and how long it takes for everything to recover once the deficit has been nullified and a maintenance level of energy intake is adequately sustained.
With that said, you are faced with two options: A)Keep decreasing calories to the point it negatively affects your health or B)Take a diet break by slowly reducing your overall deficit and eating more over the course of several months. You may also wish to get your RMR tested to see what your adjusted value is.
RMR--Resting metabolic rate...correct? How do I get it tested?0 -
OP, you may want to take a very long diet break. I read in your profile that most of your weight loss efforts have either come from starving yourself or yo-yo diets. With this in consideration, and the fact you have been potentially under a calorie deficit for over a year, you may want to give your endocrine system a much needed break to allow the hormones that regulate your metabolism as well as RMR a chance to recover. By keeping the petal to the medal, so to speak, you've been reducing your energy balance lower and lower meaning you'll need to keep lowering calories to elicit further weight loss. Of course, this isn't wise since this will lead to severe under-eating.
What are you suggesting exactly? My metabolism is screwed up for life? That's what I have been thinking.
It is possible that you have caused some metabolic slow down/ damage/adaptation (whatever you want to call it) if you have been in a severe deficit for a long time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHHzie6XRGk
It is possible to fix but it takes patience as it may take as long to fix as it did to cause the problem in the first place.
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Visit an endocrinologist or Metabolic Testing Center.There are no longitudinal studies that track subjects assuming long-term chronic calorie restriction (years); thus there is no evidence to suggest the degree of potential decline and how long it takes for everything to recover once the deficit has been nullified and a maintenance level of energy intake is adequately sustained.
With that said, you are faced with two options: A)Keep decreasing calories to the point it negatively affects your health or B)Take a diet break by slowly reducing your overall deficit and eating more over the course of several months. You may also wish to get your RMR tested to see what your adjusted value is.
RMR--Resting metabolic rate...correct? How do I get it tested?0 -
can't sleep. thank god this thread is still going on.
Hahahaha and going strong!0 -
This is 100% for a fact and proven. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that "it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong". Again, it is called, "hormonal timing". Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
Then what is your response to all the other women here who have had incredibly effective results, if not better, and have never even heard of such a thing of 'hormonal timing' or revolved any of their results around it?
edit: Just went back to read your first posts as well as the men who offered advice, and there was nothing mentioned by any of the guys that was even remotely close to being sexist, whereas you said "Don't listen to these men." No offense but who's acting like the sexist one now?0 -
not worth it0
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This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?0 -
I really am wondering as well where the sexist comments you are talking about are. Nothing Dav or Apollo said was sexist at all0
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Visit an endocrinologist or Metabolic Testing Center.There are no longitudinal studies that track subjects assuming long-term chronic calorie restriction (years); thus there is no evidence to suggest the degree of potential decline and how long it takes for everything to recover once the deficit has been nullified and a maintenance level of energy intake is adequately sustained.
With that said, you are faced with two options: A)Keep decreasing calories to the point it negatively affects your health or B)Take a diet break by slowly reducing your overall deficit and eating more over the course of several months. You may also wish to get your RMR tested to see what your adjusted value is.
RMR--Resting metabolic rate...correct? How do I get it tested?
Yeah...I have been told by my father to go to one and get my thyroid checked out. I just signed up for health insurance, so it's about time to listen to him for once...ha!0 -
It is true. Unless you are a female, you can't say for sure. Women are NOT men. Women's bodies are not the same as men's bodies. I am so tired of men who do not understand a woman's body is different who gives advice.Nothing works on it. It just grows there one day and it stays.
completely untrue. a calorie deficit and strength training works. patience works too.
I honestly didn't read past this post. I can only imagine what comes next. I only have one comment.
You are wrong.0 -
So this has been said many times on here but for some reason no one seems to pay any attention to the few people that know what they are talking about. I think it may be in hope that someone will vomit out some garbage about "weighted gloves" or carrying midgets on your back and they'll choose to believe it...
So..to reiterate what some of my fallen brethren have already so heroically said on this post:
You CANNOT target fat. It is in your specific genes what fat your body decides to get rid of first relative to the rest of your body.
There are some similarities between men and some similarities between women when it comes to where most fat is stored and where most fat is lost at first.
SO, OP, if you want to get rid of your back fat, you have to get rid of ALL the other fat your body wants to get rid of first before it even thinks about your back fat.
..In memory of Intelligence
This was so beautiful it deserved to be said twice.0 -
Ditch the supplements, decrease cardio in half and replace it with lifting weight.. Not girly weight 2.5 pound dumbbells.. I mean like LIFT weights. While cardio looks like the bigger calorie burn short term, and its awesome to see a 600+ calorie burn, lifting weights will build muscle which in turn will burn more calories over a 24 hour timeframe. For every pound of muscle we have versus fat we burn an extra 50 calories a day! If you put on 4 pounds of muscle and lose 4 pounds of fat you will burn an extra 200 calories a day doing nothing different! How can you beat that? You will NOT get those types of after burn results from cardio, alone. Start lifting girl!0
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unsubscribe button... unsubscribe button... unsubscribe button... where is the unsubscribe button?!?!?!?!0
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not worth it
Good thing I read it before you edited :P0 -
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
Referring to a book that someone is selling is not evidence. Why don't you quote some of these studies you say are in the book.
You make accusations, why don't you actually support them rather than deflecting.
And yes, what did all your posts have to do with back fat I ask myself as well.0 -
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm loving that this thread turned my FL into a bunch of sexy back shots. Begs the question: is there a How to Tone Up My Booty thread we can hop to next and get the same result?
Also, who the hell is Michele Berger, and why is the fact that she scratched out a book relevant to anything, anywhere? Huffing? Buffing? GTFO0 -
Ditch the supplements, decrease cardio in half and replace it with lifting weight.. Not girly weight 2.5 pound dumbbells.. I mean like LIFT weights.
i told her something like this. it got blown off. because i'm a sexist penis-having don draper reincarnated devil man.
it might hold merit coming from you though. uteruses before duderuses.0 -
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.htmlOh okay, duh! I am sorry. A woman's body is exactly like a man's. They get their period too. My apologies. They hold on to fat in prep for babies too. They also have the same exact muscle mass as women. They lose weight the same as women. It is just as easy for women to lose weight as it is for men. Men and women have the same muscle to fat ratios genetically. Men go through menopause just like women. Women get extra fat in their tummies when they lose testosterone as they age, just like a man. Women and men have the same proportions such as the same size hips. Women do not genetically have larger hips for childbirth. Gee, thanks for clearing this up. Your comment has got to be the DUMBEST I have EVER heard. All you can say is, "you're wrong" but not say why? OMG! I have heard it ALL NOW!0 -
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
I... don't even...
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